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The movies shouldn't required reading about scenes that were cut or other poo poo to make sense. The above Phasma stuff is a good example of supplementary material that can add depth, but other things like how big the First Order is, how big the Resistance is, what the state of the Republic/galaxy is, how Luke devolved into a total binch, etc. not being shown is lovely movie making.
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Tender Bender posted:This is all shown in the movie. "It's a fleet killers, we gotta take it out." movie leads us to believe that the entire resistance fleet is destroyed during the movie
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Tender Bender posted:This is all shown in the movie.  : So I want Rey to meet this old cynical rear end in a top hat that refuses to train her because he has become a nihilist and is unmoved by the peril his friends and family face. : So Rey is directed to a different teacher by Luke? : that would be too disjointed and the story would jump around too much. Let's just say some poo poo happened to Luke. : So we should film a series of short scenes to show the progression of Luke teaching Ben Solo and losing him to Snoke? : what, do I look like some kind of writer/director?1/10,000 of the duration of the movie spent on showing a single moment of an already transformed Luke about to murder his nephew
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It isn't about "hard to understand" it is about effectual storytelling. E: generally, you don't take the same actor and make them play a character with the same name, but be obviously a very different character without showing the audience how they came to change. It doesn't need to be a feature-length film in its own right, but probably could have been addressed in 90 seconds. We didn't need this for obi-wan or yoda because they were not established characters at the time. And if you go from the standpoint of how they were last depicted in Episode III, they are still very much the same character, unlike TLJ Luke. Corky Romanovsky fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 8, 2018 |
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Tender Bender posted:I agree that it's a problem with the movie and it should be better fleshed out. I just don't agree that it's as significant a problem as you seem to. Never let dialogue, acting, pacing, tone, or plot get in the way of enjoying a movie.
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Jan 8, 2018 03:57
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Maybe cloaked vessels are only invisible to typical radar scans an such. The First Order folks would probably have been overconfident that the Resistance is destroyed after vaporizing the ship, and would have missed the shuttles slinking away with the explosion/debris field between them and the First Order.
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Jan 9, 2018 02:40
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Smythe posted:ship the drat IG-88 movie u fuckers It could be a 90minute prison break film that largely takes place over the span of 3 seconds.
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Jan 9, 2018 04:58
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"Interesting" is vague and subjective.
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Jan 9, 2018 06:05
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Stopping blaster bolts was dope. Force choke from a distance was done in OT. Mind reading always seemed fuzzy, easier to sense emotions than actual clear thoughts, which is why the simultaneous lightsaber turning worked even on Snoke. Too bad cool stuff alone doesn't make for a good piece of cinema.
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Jan 10, 2018 03:26
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It was just the blue blaster bolt, which may be different from red or green. Who cares, so long as it is used well. Like a character is tied up to a wall, force user halts it, but gets caught up in a duel and is struggling to concentrate to keep it stopped while fighting.
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Corrosion posted:The stupid question about "Why a trade dispute?" ignores that the central villain is a guy who comes from Naboo, so where else would it be? The whole fall of the republic having seemingly humble origins just flies right over people's heads. Ah, yes, the humble Senator coercing an outside force to hold his district hostage, ensuring his constituents die from preventable causes. Very humble. And the outside forces reluctantly attacking, the ensuing battle in which his constituents directly died. So humble.
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Jan 10, 2018 23:35
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Corrosion posted:You're being pretty stupid if you don't know why "seemingly" is in front of humble. No, it is the word humble.
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Jan 11, 2018 00:02
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Milky Moor posted:Weird that Luke doesn't know anything about Kylo's obsession with the saber and that Rey never mentioned it. He cut himself off from the force.
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Jan 11, 2018 00:03
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gaj70 posted:Jar Jar is Rey's father, and she confronts him in Episode 9, part 3. That isn't brought up until Part 3, Subsection E, so we are going to be waiting awhile.
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Jan 11, 2018 01:36
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Corrosion posted:So you're fine with being openly disingenuous. Cool. "I'm not disingenuous! I'm not disingenuous!" I continue to insist as I shrink and transform into a kyber crystal.
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"Size matters not." The effort wouldn't kill you...
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Jan 11, 2018 09:09
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Unoriginal Name posted:I mean, anyone except for Snoke. Luke disconnected himself from the force. He couldn't sense poo poo.
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Jan 11, 2018 12:44
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After having deep, human relationships with R2D2 and C3PO, Luke absconded with some other astromech droid and left it to rot in his sunken x-wing.
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Was the color off at many theaters, or did people actually see blue milk?
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Jan 12, 2018 15:35
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Maybe these blue milk people (not referencing the nsfw picture) have a native language where the word for green evolved relatively late.
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CelticPredator posted:Rian Johnson is a nice and humble man, not an smug rear end in a top hat. 
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bushisms.txt posted:I've been seeing an lot of complaints saying burning the temple was pointless cause Rey has the books. But, she doesn't? Yoda says she holds everything needed, but not that she has the actual texts. The ones in the drawer on the Millennium Falcon are Chewbacca's hand crafted forgeries.
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I can't remember the details anymore because it was inconsequential: did their skimmers even have guns? Did anyone try firing down the barrel of the super weapon? The Coen Brothers probably could have salvaged the script.
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Anarchist are conservative? E: please keep editing and editing and editing, BotL EE: lol that one of your edits added a "not to mention" EEE: and then you edited it out, lololol EEEE: by your logic anarchists are conservative for wanting to return to a previous state of social order Corky Romanovsky fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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Jan 15, 2018 14:30
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Mods, please restrict BravestOfTheLamps from posting in all threads, except threads that BravestOfTheLamps creates.
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Can this thread be about star wars and not a PhD thesis on why this isn't objectively the best movie/story ever?
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It can be an interesting read, but BotL has a habit of taking poo poo to the extreme, belittling people that are interested in a thing for entertainment purposes which creates a hostile environment and basically silences discussion among people not interested in wrestling with a pit viper.
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Jan 16, 2018 01:34
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*very BotLy voice* Stupidly? You mean heroically!
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Jan 16, 2018 02:46
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OMG, Leia is Darth Plageus!
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Jan 17, 2018 09:26
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Expectation: subverted expectations Status: subverted
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Jan 18, 2018 04:19
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Wank posted:The dudes in red were not the Knights of Ren. Maybe gizmodo reads this thread.
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Rating it as... A Star Wars Episode N movie: not very good As a sci-fi film: ok, but easily improved with some minor changes As cinema: good visuals, some pacing issues, tone issues, music didn't stand out, poor use of screen time, ...
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galagazombie posted:Yet the First Order used Snowtrooper armor, It is a ridiculously bright environment in direct sunlight. That armor has a narrow visor to deal with the light.
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Jan 22, 2018 07:37
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When did they hold Han's funeral, while lifting off of the starting planet or 36 hours later when they lifted off of the last planet?
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Jan 25, 2018 08:07
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Yeah, in the 5 minutes between Han falling down the bottomless pit and the planet blowing up an A-Wing piloted by Lobot flew down to catch the corpse and escape.
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Tender Bender posted:The writers have to address this or reveal themselves as dolts, cowards, or worse: Bothan.
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tekz posted:Just saw this movie, pretty good. I don't get the people complaining about the 'side' mission to get the hacker, since it was clearly the defining and most critical part of the movie? It was a waste of screen time.
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tekz posted:Incorrect, it was the only meaningful part of the movie. If you posit the unique message of that part is "this is just an endless cycle" and it is the only meaningful part of the movie, then I would like to introduce to you a movie that extols a similar message: The Last Jedi
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euphronius posted:There is no reliable view of that scene The minutiae don't matter; Luke dun hosed up. It was poorly done.
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Zoran posted:I object to the idea that this is kind of thing—moving beyond the old failures and finding the path of the true Jedi—is either novel or clever, because the whole point of Luke's story in the original films is exactly this: he must grow beyond the failed Jedi teachings that led to fascism and turned people like Anakin Skywalker into galactic terrors. Luke's Skywalker bloodline doesn’t actually afford him exceptionally strong magic powers (relative to the other people with that particular talent). He shows no more skill with the Force than, say, Obi-Wan. In the end his potential for defeating the Sith doesn’t have anything at all to do with his genetic gifts. He wins because he shows true compassion and self-sacrifice and in turn inspires those things in his fallen father. He sees beyond the prejudices that make his teachers so certain there is no coming back from the dark side. Why did they cast Mark Hamill to play this other guy then?
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