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Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Cultural Imperial posted:

Is WiFi more dangerous than smoked salmon

That depends on whether the salmon is gluten-free or not.

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Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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THC posted:

If it werent for the acceptance of gay people, won by decades of struggle, Baird would probably have never risen almost to the top of our government. He'd be a nobody. And what did he do? He went to bat for a racist party that shits on poor people and refugees, and claims that trans people are predators.

But okay, sure, all these criticisms are a violation of his privacy.

Remember this?
https://youtu.be/ZV1i8LWb9hY?t=1m32s

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Cultural Imperial posted:

Why do we need national security when there's nothing worth protecting in this country

I am in this country and I am worth protecting. However, I am not worth attacking and neither is anything else in Canada.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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HappyHippo posted:

But I thought Chris Alexander was a smart dude who only sounded like a stupid brat because he had to toe the party line???

I think he was the only person in DFAIT dumb enough to want to be ambassador to Afghanistan.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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JohnnyCanuck posted:

Ahahaha IT BEGINS

quote:

If Harper had won last week, he’d at least have had his promised Home Renovation Tax Credit to help out, though only on the first $5,000. The other $9.995 million would have had to come from somewhere else.

:psyboom:

Even if he's being facetious this is remarkably stupid, even for an economics professor.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Pinterest Mom posted:

Oh my god.

The Senate Liberal Caucus is threatening to withhold support for legislation unless JT agrees to name one of them Government Senate Leader and put them in Cabinet.

JawKnee posted:

not to mention JTs promises of patronage-free, non-partisan senate appointments

Justin Trudeau is going to bring the Senate Liberals back into the LPC caucus, and then appoint 22 failed candidates and party insiders to give himself a Senate majority.

Canadians won't care in 4 years.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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PT6A posted:

No one except Saskatchewan gives the faintest gently caress about CFL, just so you know.

Then why did BC spend $500 million on a roof for BC Place? Don't tell me somebody actually watches the White Caps.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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EngineerJoe posted:

I finally watched that video explaining mpp and I finally understand it. It seems alright in general and better that fptp but I don't like how it makes political parties a real thing and I really don't like how candidate who lose in their ridings can win via the party vote. Would the party rank list be finalized ahead of time? Is it possible for a fringe party to exhaust their list?

Party lists can be created after the election, from the top runners-up in every riding. For example, if a riding result was 46/45/9 for LPC/CPC/NDP, the LPC candidate would win, and the CPC candidate would go near the top of the list for proportional seats.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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PT6A posted:

The fact is that, no thanks to their policies, Canada weathered the 2008 crisis decently if you measure it by how many CPC voters fared. I don't for a second believe Trudeau would've done worse, and I think in an alternate reality where he were PM, he may well have done better, but I can't say that the CPC were "loving terrible" either. Refusing to acknowledge that is one significant step toward handing the CPC another victory.

None of the reasons Canada fared better than other countries in 2008 had anything to do with Harper or his policies.

Brannock posted:

It's still absolutely baffling that Harper actually did away with the goddamn census.

It's not, when you consider that damaging government's ability to govern effectively strengthens the argument that government is inherently incompetent.

See also: http://ipolitics.ca/2015/10/11/kevin-pages-pre-election-fiscal-warning-the-process-has-been-completely-broken-2/

tl;dr: The government cut spending, but doesn't actually know what they cut spending on.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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cowofwar posted:

gently caress you guys for making me read through three pages of this terrible derail.

I normally just scroll past everything until I see a Helsing post, but he got in on this derail so I think I'm just going to go outside.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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PT6A posted:

The economy is doing pretty well, eh? Could've loving fooled me.

Pinterest Mom posted:

Sorry about your province I guess.

Apparently after nine years of Harper the center of the universe moved from Toronto to Calgary.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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"democrat"

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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crowoutofcontext posted:

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/11/11/tepid-tom-the-new-democrats-survey-the-wreckage/

Oh wow, some NDP finally decided to be self-aware today, albeit one member anonymously. They still won't let go of PM Mulcair idea.



LOL at "unlikely"

Wow, Craig Scott is still really mad about this.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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vyelkin posted:

That's in Justice:

That statement is missing an Oxford comma.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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PT6A posted:

Theocracy is inherently anti-democratic and fundamentally incompatible with any notion of a free society, regardless of how it gained power in the first place.

So are military dictatorships. The difference is that secular military dictatorships are better aligned with the West's political interests.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Count Roland posted:

I'm kinda split on the training mission.

I root for the Kurds, and of course despise IS, and wish the Kurds luck.

However, while they're secular, they're not exactly nice people, as a whole. They've already been evicting arabs from their villages, burning homes, and generally being racist dicks. The Kurds territorial claims include areas that were "arabized" under Saddam. The Kurds have a lot of motivation to drive these arabs back and try and reclaim some of that territory. Plus, the various Kurdish groups have a poor history of getting along; a brutal civil war was fought in Iraqi Kurdistan only in the 90s.

My worry with training them is that they'll use their training not just against IS, but against whatever enemies they come across in the future, which could include basically anyone/everyone they live close to. Training militias in the middle east has a long and proud history of backfiring, and I'm not keen to have Canada play a big role in that.

Western governments arm and train the Kurds.

The Kurds declare war on Turkey, a member of NATO.

Western governments declare war on the Kurds.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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THC posted:

According to the budget the Conservatives tabled back in April or whatever, oil was supposed to be back at $80/barrel by now.

The current prices of a barrel of oil is as close to $80 as it is to free.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Ikantski posted:

I'm inclined to think the hospital staff was doing what they thought was overwhelmingly best for the woman, child and future children rather than secretly embarking on an aboriginal eugenics campaign but hey, gently caress doctors.

You could say the same about residential schools.

And for god's sake, don't read the comments.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Professor Shark posted:

Church I grew up in- the guy who baptized me ran away with a much younger woman who was also a member :)

I was baptized Catholic too.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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colonel_korn posted:

Anyways here's the full list:

quote:

Hon. Tony Clement (Parry Sound–Muskoka) — Foreign Affairs

:lol:

I would say the CPC is truly hosed if this is the best they have, but they've always had a shallow front bench.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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jsoh posted:

please remember that the purpose of a leftist political party is to enact positive, progressive/socialist change. if the leftist party wins an election on a platform of being a moderate party then i dont want anything to do with it.

The NDP's platform included national child care and pharmacare programs, the greatest expansion of the Canadian welfare state since the... 1960's? Parts of their platform were poo poo, and their rhetoric was centrist, but their platform was to the left of the Liberals.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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flakeloaf posted:

Who cares if it's a step in the right direction, it's not a perfect solution that makes everything totally fair and rosy in an afternoon so we hate it, we're folding our arms and if you try to make us go we're going to throw such a tantrum.

It's not really a step in the right direction. It does nothing to address the regional imbalance in the Senate, there's no way to ensure ahead of time that the appointment process will actually achieve its non-partisan goals, and it gives legitimacy to an outdated, undemocratic institution which makes future reforms more difficult.

At best it's slightly better than the status quo.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Franks Happy Place posted:

Christy Clark getting national media attention by saying a bunch of vaguely stupid things about Trudeau's senate reform plan is just her laying groundwork for her run at the CPC leadership, hope this helps.

2017 can't come soon enough

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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blah_blah posted:

She is definitely less competent than Harper and her utter lack of principles and convictions make even the Federal Liberals look good in comparison.

On the other hand she's probably unelectable federally.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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THC posted:

Clark doesn't speak French and is probably too dumb to learn it.

Which means she's more than qualified to follow in the footsteps of Preston Manning and Stockwell Day.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Hexigrammus posted:

Uhh... that was once believed to be the situation in B.C. as well.

And if Adrian Dix replaces Tom Mulcair we'll really be in trouble.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Abacus polled Conservative supporters on their preferences for the party's leadership:

CBC News posted:

Among those who say they currently support the Tories, however, MacKay still leads with 35 per cent. Wall comes second at 17 per cent. Kenney (12 per cent) and Charest (10 per cent) were the only other candidates to score in the double digits.
...
With MacKay at the helm, 47 per cent of Canadians said they would consider or certainly vote Conservative, putting him well ahead of other potential candidates. Kenney, Charest, Raitt and Wall all scored between 36 and 38 per cent, suggesting they have the ability to boost the Conservatives to competitive levels of support, but only just.

Polling at 32 to 34 per cent on this question, Bernier, Chong and Leitch would seemingly not expand the Conservatives' base of support, while Doug Ford would reduce it to just 25 per cent.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-cpc-leadership-poll-1.3353882

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Eej posted:

What we need is some entrepreneneurs to crack open the Telecom market with some Disruptive Innovation to nationalize Bell, Telus, Rogers and Shaw and hang their executives

Agreed.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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MonsieurChoc posted:

poo poo, a public internet company sounds loving awesome. Where do I sign up?

Saskatchewan or Prince Rupert.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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I also think Christy Clark should go into business in Malaysia.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Pinterest Mom posted:

It's Helsing's favourite time of the year :toot:


I emailed the party this morning and told them I'm no longer giving them any money because of this loving poo poo.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Cultural Imperial posted:

And while we're at it, make them permit prayers with my dog.

Is dog meat halal?

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Cultural Imperial posted:

Dogs are haram you dumb fucks

Somebody better tell Obama :v:

Cultural Imperial posted:

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/nimr-al-nimr-saudi-arabia-death-sentence-canada-1.3389209


Growing up in a third world shithole while my dad worked on CIDA projects, I learned at a very young age that Canadian consular services and the diplomatic corps were staffed by grade a human garbage. All I can say is good job loving this up dumb asses.

Judging by Chris Alexander this is probably true.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Heavy neutrino posted:

Actually, I'd be baffled if TransCanada could win despite this:


I don't know what TransCanada is going to argue, but it looks like it would have to prove that the U.S. denied Keystone XL out of discrimination, as opposed to environmental and domestic health concerns let alone any other non-discriminatory reason it might be permitted to give for refusal.

More importantly, I'd be absolutely baffled if the US ever gave a poo poo about treaty obligations. That's for weaker countries.

They're just assuring their investors that the project is still alive until President Cruz and Secretary of State Palin approve it in 2017.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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The RCMP spent $20 million dollars to trick two mentally ill drug addicts into committing a terrorist plot in order to create fear in the general populace and justify the need for more counter-terrorist funding?

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Furnaceface posted:

Harper was really only known as Harper, PMSH, and Satan.

Don't forget Dear Leader.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Ex-Dragon Kevin O'Leary considerers run at Tory leadership

My gut tells me that he's only doing this for attention, but that's what I said about Trump too. Of course the key difference between Trump and O'Leary is that Trump has built at least one successful business.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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PT6A posted:

Remind me again why this is a thing we shouldn't treat with utmost contempt...

It's not.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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Furnaceface posted:

Nationalize all the telecom infrastructure. Its the only way to be safe.

Isn't that a little extreme? Couldn't we just publicly execute their executives and board members?

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Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

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tekz posted:

re: the Ontario death spiral people were talking about earlier. Could lower oil prices lead to a nicer year for the automotive industry and maybe a slightly better year for Ontario? Or is that industry not really relevant to the province anymore?

What vyelkin said, but also keep in mind that most of the inputs to manufacturing an automobile are imported. Raw materials and components are more expensive for Canadian manufacturers, and manufacturing equipment is more expensive for anyone looking to add capacity.

For existing plants the low Dollar only makes the labor, utilities and overhead components of the finished good cheaper for exports. For new capacity it's really only labor and utilities.

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