Obfuscation posted:

Does it have any stretch goals

bloom posted:

hyvä tulla huutelee kymppitonnin kuukausipalkalla

bloom posted:

Bowstrings go bad in water you idiot. You fool.

Taikuri posted:

Nenonen posted:

So are the secret protocols public yet?

brakeless posted:

5) viinaa ei saa ostaa kellon ympäri

6) ei saa nukkua känniä pois puistossa

7) kuseminen rajoitettu tiettyihin paikkoihin

throw to first drat IT posted:

It's nice that viranomaiset are willing to put some effort into modernizing old classics.

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Not only that, he tied the vote of confidence to his worker's right bill, where small companies can fire people indiscriminately. By hiding behind the parliament, they are giving the bill the aura of representative democracy - our elected best vote for our behalf.

It's a clever move, but it has the danger of being too clever for its own good. That being said, when did majority government coalitions voted against themselves in a vote of confidence? It's a sure slam dunk.

Cerebral Bore posted:

Seems pretty counterproductive.

Sulphagnist posted:

Her defence seems to be "no, you're the real racists for thinking these slides are racist!" which, jeez, really?

She's shown an incredible lack of self-awareness in both preparing that presentation, showing it to people, and then trying to defend it in public. She's more like the Old Person type racist, not the Guy with Premature Baldness and a Blog type racist, so I don't think she's orchestrating something nefarious at the Helsinki Police Department outside of automatically checking the papers of Suspiciously Brown People at staissi.

I mean just look at it, I can't take a person making spelling mistakes and using clipart on her Big Important Powerpoint seriously.

Sulphagnist posted:

This feels like the sort of thing that only pundits and journalists actually give a poo poo about. It's a government bill, the Parliament will vote on it at some point anyway if it's not withdrawn.

Nenonen posted:

It's just mere posing, Sipilä wouldn't be doing this if he didn't believe that the ranks held (and if they did for Soini then they will for something that this government truly believes in). I don't think he's thought of the alternative because it would be utter chaos not brought by the opposition or even unions but the government coalition alone. Just consider the last time we had a premature election? 1975, and only because Kekkonen smashed the parliament

Nenonen posted:

edit: anyway, I think you're predicting way too much from future. There are limits to how far the SDP can rise, and to how low CP can fall.

Nenonen posted:

Tavoittelen pääministerin paikkaa

Sulphagnist posted:

Down from 12.9 to 12.0 in HS's new poll. There's probably a floor but Green voters are always pretty fickle so I can't say if it's 10 percent or 8 percent. As long as they bleed into LA and SDP it's not a huge problem, but if those people just become sleepers instead, that's not great.

The problem is that the whole narrative is now about Aalto's absence and how the Greens keep tanking in the polls, which leads to more tanking in the polls. They need to do something dramatic and quickly to change the story, but they can't and won't oust Aalto on their own.

Touko Aalto retire bitch

Nenonen posted:

If it turns out that this was all just a ruse to pave way for Ville Niinistö to return to the steers then color me impressed.

Forktoss posted:

quote:

Linkola takasin puikkoihin!

El Perkele posted:

The current Green poliittinen tavoiteohjelma from this spring has precisely this on nuclear power:

"Ilmastonmuutoksen torjumiseksi Vihreät suhtautuu avoimesti kaikkeen vähäpäästöisen ja ympäristöystävällisen teknologian tutkimukseen ja kehittämiseen. Viimeisimmät Suomessa tehdyt ydinvoimahankkeet ovat olleet hitaita ja ongelmallisia. Sellaisia emme halua lisää."

and here's their parties official tavoiteohjelma in 2012 on nuclear:
" Kannatamme ydinvoimasta luopumista niin pian kuin mahdollista. Ydinvoimasta luopuminen ei kuitenkaan saa lisätä hiilidioksidipäästöjä."

this leads me to wonder: just what political party you support? I mean, if this is garbage stance, you probably should vote for "more nuclear projects but instead of what happens in reality let's hope for silver bullet solutions " or maybe alternatively "more nuclear projects, precisely like OL3 and Fennovoima because they are somehow cool"

but do carry on, my "Green Concern Troll" bingo chart is filling up fast

HerraS posted:

here's an easy question: do you defend louhimiäs in any way? if yes congratulations youre a piece of poo poo

HerraS posted:

got ousted as a sex pest who abuses women actors, did a lovely non-apology

the reporter who broke the story asked the bbc (whom louhimiäs was supposed to direct a series for or some poo poo) if they knew he was a sex pest and the bbc then shitcanned louhimiäs

now louhimiäs and a disgustingly large part of the media are trying to make the reporter the villain for revealing that hes a sex pest to the bbc rather than, you know, louhimiäs for being a sex pest in the first place

Kemper Boyd posted:

I'm entirely fine with the idea that Louhimies will never make a film again ... he makes bad movies.

Jerry Cotton posted:

I'll care about the Sami when they stop voting Kepu. (A party that is largely complicit in loving them over )

Nenonen posted:

Current law:

Työntekijästä johtuvana tai hänen henkilöönsä liittyvänä asiallisena ja painavana irtisanomisperusteena voidaan pitää työsopimuksesta tai laista johtuvien, työsuhteeseen olennaisesti vaikuttavien velvoitteiden vakavaa rikkomista tai laiminlyöntiä sekä sellaisten työntekijän henkilöön liittyvien työntekoedellytysten olennaista muuttumista, joiden vuoksi työntekijä ei enää kykene selviytymään työtehtävistään. Syyn asiallisuutta ja painavuutta arvioitaessa on otettava huomioon työnantajan ja työntekijän olosuhteet kokonaisuudessaan.

This latest bill proposal:

Työntekijästä johtuvana tai hänen henkilöönsä liittyvänä asiallisena ja painavana irtisanomisperusteena voidaan pitää työsopimuksesta tai laista johtuvien, työsuhteeseen olennaisesti vaikuttavien velvoitteiden vakavaa rikkomista tai laiminlyöntiä sekä sellaisten työntekijän henkilöön liittyvien työntekoedellytysten olennaista muuttumista, joiden vuoksi työntekijä ei enää kykene selviytymään työtehtävistään. Syyn asiallisuutta ja painavuutta arvioitaessa on kokonaisarvioinnissa otettava huomioon työnantajan palveluksessa olevien työntekijöiden lukumäärä sekä työnantajan ja työntekijän olosuhteet kokonaisuudessaan.

What does it mean in practise? How should courts evaluate this?

Jerry Cotton posted:

I didn't read the piece so were any non-bougie-gently caress Finns responsible for slavery or just the bougie fucks?

Jerry Cotton posted:

I think you are using hyperbole