Fingers McLongDong posted:

Without brainstorm this probably wouldn't be as bad as anticipated but it'd still take playing against twin from fine to absolutely miserable. There's so many fun cards in legacy, it's sad it isn't supported more. We only scrounged up 5 players for legacy night last week and it's even 75 card proxy.

Edit; I'll accept FoW in modern if I can have Mom in modern too

Serperoth posted:

It's also banned in Modern, which makes it weirder.

Rinkles posted:

Stoddard on making double small set drafts work

Biggest takeaways are more commons and less lovely commons (especially cycles of those).

Lieutenant Centaur posted:

So, do Wastes only tap for DIAMOND mana? They doesn't tap for what we call "colorless" (2)BB right? For that you still need BB and 2 of any land except Wastes?

Lieutenant Centaur posted:

Please for the love of god let there be a Price of Progress reprint in Oath.

JerryLee posted:

I think the thing that makes this analogy not quite complete is that green is going to be around forever in every set, as far as we know. If they just printed green in one set, then it would be parasitic.

That said, I think you're still substantially on-point with that analogy. Really, I don't think you can 100% say a mechanic is parasitic except in retrospect. We can usually say something will be parasitic because it's a safe bet that sunburst won't actually become an evergreen thing, but technically we don't know it, and here I think it's safe to say that there's a greater-than-average chance of their sprinkling diamond costs into more sets going forward, just like hybrid mana (as people have noted).

The fact that all past and future colorless sources that tapped for {1} will now tap for {D} also goes a long way to keep it from being parasitic, since they don't actually have to put snow lands wastes in every set to keep up some level of enabling.


e: I may be using a definition of parasitic other than the strict Magic dictionary definition here, but I think it's the practical definition most people are concerned about.

Chill la Chill posted:

The only upside I see is that you would be able to find all your good colorless spells early on in draft and have support for them later with BFZ. Like maybe the +0/+1 buffer dude becomes actually useful. The funniest thing is if this, combined with the dumb 2HG gimmick, means both standard and draft decline in popularity while modern and legacy too expensive gets more popular.

Entropic posted:

Sort of, I mean most if it you should already have if you were playing it before rotation. The only new expensive card is Gideon.

rabidsquid posted:

There's actually an upcoming Sedge Troll set. Every card is Sedge Troll.

Entropic posted:

Prediction: when it comes time for OOTGW development articles, maro will make a "diamonds are forever" pun, possibly as the title of an article.

MiddleEastBeast posted:

It's not even close to a full time job, and I'm not sure what being very good at a thing has to do with whether one should be able to make a living wage doing it.

BJPaskoff posted:

I agree with most of the article. Look at the shitstorm caused by people not being able to wrap their heads around {C} when it wasn't outright explained to them. In an ideal world, someone at Wizards would have seen the leak and immediately posted something to explain the cards, but there's massive amounts of red tape and corporate approval they need to get before they even acknowledge these things publicly.

Zoness posted:

if you have circle of protection: artifacts out does that prevent damage from guns?

Static Equilibrium posted:

Holiday cube really is the best part of MTGO.

C-Euro posted:

I think a lot of that is because Magic, having practically invented the TCG/CCG format, has the ~prestige~ to get away with a lot of that stuff (or at least thinks they do). Everyone who's into card games knows Magic, and their business model still appears to be a wild success for them. Until another game can challenge them in the physical space I don't think a lot will change, though if Hearthstone has the legs people say that it has (I've never played it) then you might see MTGO change in response, which I know a lot of people are hoping for.

Madmarker posted:

I've never understood this hate some people have for card snapping/flicking. I am constantly moving my cards in my hand when I play, it helps me see what I have in hand and just keeps a constant reminder in my head of my options. Now I don't go at the speed of light ala Kibler, but hands are constantly in motion.

black potus posted:

personally i'm a very large fan of how this started with magic's poisonous business model and quickly degenerated into people who move their cards in their hand. truly equally grave dangers facing this game.

Failboattootoot posted:

Which is ironic considering how insanely expensive the current standard is, although I get that's mostly the other sets and not BfZ.

black potus posted:

collectability fucks you up though

Mikujin posted:

Presumably there are some legal ramifications. When the Zach Jesse debacle was going down he said as much as reason for why he wasn't just spouting off what was going down. It's not like we know anything more than what WotC has told us, either.

E: Us being the judge collective. We just know dudes got hit with the ban- pretty hard, and the reason for why has been sketchy at best, with no supporting evidence beyond their incredibly credible sources.


Not really. I'm just the better rules lawyer so I shut would-be rules lawyers down fast. The appeal process is a necessary evil since it does ensure bad calls get caught for being bad calls (some of the time).

Sickening posted:

Anybody that has been around magic long enough knows someone who speculates on magic cards in a "serious" way. They are usually the living embodiment of the word "grognard".

They spend all this time trying to figure out what is going to be the next big spike instead of you know, trying to get a job that isn't minimum wage.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

You should've just said "I know I'm doomed I'm out" or something. Saying something has no interaction has become a snarl word.

Nehru the Damaja posted:

Is "nobody plays Standard anymore" just a thread consensus or is there data

Some Numbers posted:

Does one copy in the sideboard really count?

Count Bleck posted:

"Pithing Needle, naming Jace."
"Which one?"
"Anime Jace."
"Again, which one?"

Ramos posted:

Emerson Cod posted:

Because the barrier for entry is relatively low in those formats and if you push it any lower you actually start to significantly devalue the cards. My wife and I spend a lot of time and drafts assembling our collection and at the very least make sure we can build the decks we want to in Standard. We trade prolifically and we've got quite a few budget and not-so budget Modern decks built just off what we've gotten on Pucatrade and through limited tournaments. The foundation of the game is collecting and building - if you chuck that you might as well play Magic Workstation exclusively.

With formats like Legacy and Vintage, the barrier for entry is too high. The only way to play in those formats for close to a reasonable price is to play online or to use proxies. It's obvious that Wizards sees MTGO as the venue for the future of Legacy and Vintage - unfortunately they have not put the time in to build a good technical foundation or really do much to foster either format there.