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AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Brownhat posted:

Trey VanCleave thinks 8 Rack is the answer. He's streaming it now: http://www.twitch.tv/treyvancleave

NONONO I just made the decision to move out of standard and in to modern and could do with the 8-rack prices not getting hosed thanks

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AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Can you name Eye of Ugin with Pithing Needle?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Merfolk just 2-0'd the Eldrazi Menace lol

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

X-1 or better at start of Day 2 of #SCGLOU: 8 Eldrazi, 3 Affinity, 1 Infect, 1 Kiki-Chord.

ban this sick filth

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

kizudarake posted:

Are any of the affinity or infect players 14 year old kids? If so, I think they play at my store.

No idea mate, just got that from twitter

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

The easiest and best way I've ever seen Regeneration explained is "Think Wolverine and not Jesus"

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

The only reason I can think of is if you've called in sick to work to attend a tournament and someone at your work is likely to watch the stream

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Is this pretty much cut and dry at this point that Emrakaul/Emeria is somehow involved here?

I'm not too up on the lore but it kinda looks that way with some of the flavour text and the *nudge nudge* references going about.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Oh Maro, have you not heard of the Streisand Effect?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Sharzak posted:

People keep saying this and it's dumb. Clues are useless if you don't use them. Encouraging people to investigate and not actually use the tokens would be retarded, which I guess is why everyone is convinced it's going to happen

Evidence: if ~ was investigated you may play this card without playing it's mana cost

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Is flip lilly likely to spike at all?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Angry Grimace posted:

This one is a lot of fun to play. A lot of these cards go from middling to bad to just being great once you hit Delirium. Traverse the Ulvenwald and Mindwrack Demon are the most fun cards.


Deck: GB Delirium

//Lands
3 Caves of Koilos
4 Evolving Wilds
3 Forest
4 Hissing Quagmire
4 Llanowar Wastes
5 Swamp
1 Wastes

//Spells
4 Dead Weight
2 Grasp of Darkness
3 Spatial Contortion
3 To the Slaughter
4 Traverse the Ulvenwald

//Creatures
4 Deathcap Cultivator
3 Kindly Stranger
4 Mindwrack Demon
4 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Tooth Collector

//Sideboard
3 Pick the Brain
1 To the Slaughter
2 Infinite Obliteration
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited
4 Matter Reshaper
3 Duress

Display deck statistics

Something that's always bothered me so I'm going to ask, why the Caves? There's nothing that needs white so why not just basic swamps?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

I think it's not going to be full on Emarkaul in tentacle mode but actually Emeria in hosed up angel mode.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

3-0 in my 3rd ever draft to take home top slot tonight, this set is amazing



MVP's at the bottom

White was WIDE open, some might say 8 removal spells is too many but they'd be wrong, had such a blast playing 10/10 would draft again

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005



Why not see if this works

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Heran Bago posted:

Confused newbie here stuck on how to go about figuring out what cards are legal in Standard. I have the definition but just look them up one card at a time on Gatherer. The Standard category on Deckstats is confusingly mostly full of cards in the "Extended" format, which Wikipedia says is a retired format.
Even when deckstats lists a card as T2, for example Winds of Qal Sisma, if I turn around and punch it into Gatherer it doesn't show it as legal in Standard. I wish it was as simple as the year printed on the card.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?output=checklist&action=advanced&format=+%5b%22Standard%22%5d

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Balon posted:

How are these human decks doing so well? Is no one playing any board wipes like Languish, Tendrils, Radiant Flames, etc?

e: the deck is a lot slower than Atarka Red and Atarka Red was getting hated out last season - how is that not translating to this?

I had a guy on full salty tilt playing a Sphinxes Rev / Startled Awake mill deck on Xmage.

Turns out Displacement Wave and Engulf the Shore really messes with it.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Angry Grimace posted:

The secret humans sideboard tech is Eerie Interlude.

Not sure about the pro lists but the ones I've been knocking heads with all make heavy use of Secure the Wastes so I'm not sure how goo that would be

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/4eaxy6/odds_ends_shadows_over_innistrad_part_1/

ole squeaky voice answers some questions about SOI

and here is the relevant text if you cba to read it

"For those wondering, in the next block, Jace is not the protagonist."

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Just fuckin stop ID's, it makes no sense at all in a competitive environment

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

sarmhan posted:

They tried this, the alternative is much worse.

I know what the argument is and it goes "yeah but there's nothing stopping people playing land go and running the clock down" which would happen, but look at all other kinds of games, if I were in a local Pool tournament not at any kind of pro level and me and my opponent just kept hitting the same ball with no intentions of finishing the game someone would go "cut that poo poo out or you're both getting tossed out".

It's part a rules thing and part behaviours, if people knew it wasn't on and could call that poo poo out to the TO it wouldn't happen. If Wizards came out and said "ID's are against the spirit of competitive play" it wouldn't change overnight but it would gradually become accepted that you play your games the best you can.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Dr. Stab posted:

What about it makes no sense in a competitive environment?

If you're in a situation where the winner advances and the loser doesn't, but if you draw, you both advance, it just makes sense to ID.

I know you're talking about IDs in exchange for prize splits, but this is still a thing that happens with IDs. You'd have to handle this situation if you wanted to get rid of IDs and not have it be insane.

The closest I can think is football (Soccer) there are plenty of situations there where 2 teams drawing would be mutually beneficial but it's just not done.

Another one is Poker where chip dumping is something that happens but everyone knows it's lovely and if a casino or TO has good evidence it's happening then everyone involved gets thrown out.

You can't stop it happening completely but if you can change it so it has a "this is bad" mentality then it won't be as big of an issue.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Dr. Stab posted:

So, what solution is there besides having every match be supervised to see if the draw was in good sport or not?

Make drawing have negative consequences I guess, if you go 1-1-1 or 0-0-3 then both players get an overall round loss. It would incentive pushing for the win & playing faster.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

If KotWO had some kind of either/or thing going on where you could have it either fetch the land if you were behind or come in with a +1/+1 counter on it that would probably sweeten the deal.

Don't think that would be over-costed either as it's WW

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

The "Echoes of old innistrad" idea similar to the expeditions sounded to me like a really good idea.

I mean standard players get to have the EV of a box lowered and can turn a nice card in to a chunk of a deck and modern players see more cards come on the market, it's win win. Just don't make them one in every 5 boxes or whatever the hell expeditions were.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

anglachel posted:

List? I just threw a bunch of stuff into a deck and was fairly pleased by it's performance. Like it gets crushed by all the value decks out there, but the deck will still be a thing after rotation. Note that I tried to use predominately Shadows Cards. Kolaghan's command is probably strictly better than say Avacyn's Judgement, i just wanted more payoff cards for madness. Between Insolent Neonate, Heir of Falkenrath, Olivia, Ravenous Bloodseeker, Elusive Tormentor, and Lava Axe you have all the madness enablers ever. However the biggest problem is that there is there no good payoff cards for Madness in Shadows, and it's very unlikely we will see more madness cards in Eldritch Moon. Your best payoff cards if Fiery Temper, Avacyn's Judgement is cute, but your rarely in a position late game where you have both a madness enabler and Avacyn's Judgement ready go to with plenty of mana, so it's just a slightly less useful Kolaghan's Command quite a bit. Asylum Visitor is a 3/1 for 2 mana, I never once got her ability to get going. Kalitas and Elusive Tormentor will get Trangressed Away quite a bit.

All that said it's an aggro deck, and has plenty of fliers. You will take games simply off the fact that your opponent will keep a hand that is reasonable for a mid range value grindy game, and then you will just rush them to death. When this deck stumbles it stumbles pretty hard. But Avacyn's Judgement and Fiery Temper managed to close out a few games for me. Exquisite Firecraft is something worth considering for the deck. I have no idea what a reasonable sideboard would look like. Self Inflicted Wounds, Duresses, Trangress the Minds would for sure be in there.

Creatures: 29
4 Insolent Neonate
4 Falkenrath Gorger
4 Heir of Falkenrath
2 Ravenous Bloodseeker
2 Asylum Visitor
3 Drana
3 Olivia
3 Kalitas
1 Elusive Tormentor
3 Incorrigible Youths

Spells: 11
4 Fiery Temper
4 Lava Axe
3 Avacyn's Judgement

Lands: 20
4 Smoldering Marsh
4 Foreboding Ruins
8 Mountains
6 Swamps

Looks like it would be a good match against Boss Humans too, which is what I assume my meta is going to be full of given trading chat over the last few days.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005


I wondered what was going down when I checked Puca today and Llanowar was hot on the wants lists

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Some Numbers posted:

I love that there was a deck that used Final Fortune on Isochron Scepter and Platinum Angel.

Final Fantasy. :v:

Wait, if you used Final Fortune on a Scepter and activated it every turn you would get infinite turns right?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

What about that one artefact that lets you end a turn early? would that work?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Rip_Van_Winkle posted:

I am goose excited

gimme that goose

Windmill slams while humming top gun music

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005



Probably no Damnation reprint and I can't get the new art cos the site is being hammered

Edit: Same art, still at rare

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

odiv posted:

Love the new Memory Lapse.



They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky....

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Is GP Manchester being covered or is this one of the "we really want MTG to be a premium e-sport so we'll not actually broadcast most of the GP's" deal?

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

mehall posted:

Yup, no GP this weekend is being streamed.

rank loving amateurs

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Le me just shut down the best lands discussion



I shuffle by tossing my deck in the air, catching 7 cards before it lands and gently caress the deck cos if you can't with with your opening hand I don't know what to tell you

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

BizarroAzrael posted:

You might get away carrying a bit more than you might think. You can just crack them at the check in desk if needed.

No dude, gotta get value, run a phantom draft with the TSA agents

Under no circumstances declare that you're holding an Explosive Apparatus tho

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

rabidsquid posted:

I guess looking at a tity without behaving like a crazy person is too much to ask

This, you'd think that with all the smut and vast, easy access to any kind of porn you want you mean that a top down view of a girls top would barely register, but here we are...

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Emarakaul will have something like "if you control X clues flip, THE TOTALLY NOT A MOON HONEST"

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AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

So who we think the plainswalkers in this set will be, my money is on Lili and Tammy

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