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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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The Larch posted:

That $100 billion would be better spent figuring out what the hell is wrong with his face.

It's the typical lovely evangelical racist grin face.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Gravel Gravy posted:

How many until America gets a free sandwich?

Obama's already served America a footlong.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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VikingofRock posted:

Good god. How does stuff like this happen? And can the victims of this have their cases retried / sue the officers involved?

How detailed do you want? This is a snake whose head is in the present and whose tail is a couple centuries in the past. The end of reconstruction brought a violent reprisal and a spiteful return of as much of the prior social order as could be had with slavery being outlawed. They could no longer own people, but they have ever since been bound and determined to keep their prior possessions (and the descendants thereof) from enjoying full participation and equal treatment in society. Nearly every racial advancement (especially prior to the 70s) has been over dead bodies and beaten ideologues of the south, and this is just another rear-guard attempt by the same poisonous filth that shelled fort sumter 151 years ago. They know they likely won't face consequences from the legal system or reciprocity from the peers of their victims, and they act accordingly.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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gently caress these two. Not for what they did but for the inevitable ways in which the usual subhuman filth will use it as a sledgehammer against minorities and refugees.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

Do you guys ever think maybe this whole Trump support thing is because conservatives know it drives liberals bonkers.

I think it all the time. Their behavior over the past 7 years has been rather strong evidence that the GOP zeitgeist is more like a spitegeist.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

His message is pretty good actually, for a Republican. I just think it would be weird to go lay some flowers at a memorial and see some guy making a video about how we're at war with radical Islam.

Was it Sasse? It must have been Sasse, the other NE senator is a horrible lady rather than a horrible man.

And yes, gently caress Ben Sasse and gently caress the hickass voters of this shitpile state for choosing him. He's going to be the next Ted Cruz, mark these words.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Your Dunkle Sans posted:

"Throw the bums out!" :argh:

Eventually the GOP will be pawing at the drool-soaked lever for literal bums with the ultimate outsider credentials.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Jokes on them, they will already be ineligible to vote due to Voter ID laws.

By then votes will be cast by nested beds of fictitious name LLCs owned by LLPs which belong to one of a numbered series of umbrella companies named "Tamarack Holdings" appended with an incremented Roman numeral corresponding to the number of bankruptcies the owners declared.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:




It's funny watching all the other candidates furiously repudiating and criticizing Trump while no one pays attention to them. The man knows how to dominate a media cycle, which may be the only currency that matters anymore.

A lump of coal, as in she fired 30k people and couldn't handle the pressure required to really shine.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Joementum posted:

Walter Jones and Tom Massie are holding a press conference tomorrow about their proposal to defund the post-speaker office.

Yes, they're still trying to oust Boehner.

They are unable to loosen their :dong: :nws: deathgrip on that brightly-colored tool. :nws: :dong:

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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foobardog posted:

As others have said, it's not happened yet, but it'd most definitely be OK for Ted Cruz, which really makes the whole birther movement even more stupid, because it would apply even if Obama was born in Kenya, since his mother was American for sure, and thus so is B-Rock the Islamic Shock.

It was wondered about for McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone, and Goldwater, who was born in Arizona before it became a state, but most who looked into it concluded that it must mean that if you had citizenship at birth, you count.

Well yeah, you were natural-born, and didn't need to be naturalized later on.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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https://vimeo.com/148239672

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

He's gonna be real mad about the Grammys.

e: it's in some stupid MSNBC video, but Jeb just called Trump's proposal "dog whistle politics" so maybe Republicans don't actually know what the term means.

No, they know what it means, it's just that they think Trump's schtick is a dog whistle rather than a people siren.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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fade5 posted:

Trump is here to stay, and it is terrifying.

Gonna enjoy Hillary grinding him into the dirt.

I can't loving wait for the 2016 version of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLoqti0lzAw

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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On Terra Firma posted:

This is kinda scary.

edit: ahahaha I just got to the part where she starts ranting about conspiracy theorists and how truthers/chemtrails/birthers are making people look bad because nobody will listen to the truth about Benghazi.

I mean it's a tiny bit sad since it's just a big ol' drunk lady stomping around her trailer alone hollering into the Internet's gaping maw while she chainsmokes and glares at her TV. You almost feel bad for those people because you think they resent the hand they were dealt and for good reason, but then you realize these people are the ones trying to run BLM protesters down with their vans and poo poo and you realize that yeah, these people were dealt a kind of poo poo hand, but they have thought it's been a great hand all their lives and will sabotage everyone around them to prove it save for the fucker that dealt it to them to begin with.

That said, that tantrum was after a Romney loss. Now imagine that rage dial cranked all the way up to the notch marked "Trump."

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Chokes McGee posted:

But you never go full Trump :stonk:

The secret is that there is no full trump. There will always be another trump notch past the one you're on.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

Uh as in Papa Doc Duvalier?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/01/22/haiti.duvalier.barr/?hpt=T2

quote:

Barr said he returned to Port-au-Prince for the first time in nearly 30 years because he believed Duvalier is genuinely interested in alleviating Haiti's suffering. He said the Caribbean nation was in worse shape now than it was when Duvalier was at the helm.

"I also am reminded of others who have risen from the ashes," Barr said. "The city of Atlanta is the Phoenix city. The people of Haiti, likewise, will rise from the problems created by last year's earthquake and emerge stronger and better than before. That I know is Mr. Duvalier's deep wish and something that he knows in his heart."

The gently caress is it with conservatives being apocalyptically-bad judges of character?

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Dec 10, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

Who are these people?

Room full of uncle ruckuses.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

This is the part in the movie where the heroes all realize that their own efforts to defeat the creature are actually making it stronger.

It's the part of the movie where the hovership crew is like "yo the matrix has been loving bonkers recently" and they flip on the screens, showing that everything is indeed loving bonkers, poo poo's jumping all over the place, ascii goddamn lightning bolts and poo poo because Elrond is in there making copies of himself out of everyone.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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zoux posted:

The Pulitzer winning post-election postmortem tell all book on this cycle is going to be insanely good.

If they don't make a game change style HBO series out of it I'm going to be disappointed.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Fried Chicken posted:

That we don't have a coherent, organized opposition left to push against "Trumpism" is a real problem.

We laughed at Jim Webb vowing to stand for the poor Scots-Irish in the country, but the fact is that since the Democrats (and the left in general) have written off these people, they are flocking to Trump. There is no reason at all to sanction their actions and attitudes, but the reason for their anger is plain, and in many ways justified. The elites have failed them, and the system isn't working. This is true for everyone, but in, for example, the black community their are still many means of organizing to push back against power. Organizing efforts in those communities never went away, and how to organize for political change and direct action is a valued and cultivated skill in the African American culture, for what I hope are obvious reasons. In the poor white ones you and Jim Webb describe, this focus on political organizing is gone. The role used to be fulfilled by the unions, but those are largely defeated now. There is not a cultural mythos of organizing; Eugene Debbs isn't lauded the way King or Chavez are by their respective communities. In fact, the majority opinion is focused on the futility of organizing, "They are all crooks!' and the like. So they have very justified anger at very real societal problems, and no way to express that for redress from their own community.

Trump himself isn't someone to take serious. He is, not to put to fine a point on it, a loving clown. What you need to take serious is that very large mass of people with a real need for change who are not being organized to achieve it in a nondestructive way. That is what Trump is tapping into, and those needs are forming a movement that needs to be countered. We need to be very wary because someone like Clinton can't counter this kind of movement. She can beat it, sure. But beating it won't halt the movement. Those grievances will remain, the inability to get their problems resolved will remain, being organized in a way that benefits them but is counterproductive to the whole will remain, and eventually there will be an election cycle where they will win. To beat the movement you need to break its power base by offering an alternative path and getting its base to join the new movement. For organizing any community you need to get the community to come together under a leader (or group of leaders) who are not perceived as an outsider (so the community is achieving it, thus they feel empowered by the results, and accepting of the process through which they achieved results), and the leaders organization need to provide a serious alternative that delivers solutions to them when they call for direct action (so that they see this organizing as a positive solution).

Clinton doesn't offer that, she simply cannot offer that. She is perceived as an outsider to that community, as a representative of the elites who have been failing for decades. Thus she engenders no trust from them. As her policy solutions don't redress their needs on a core level (and in fact her past actions helped create their situation) she can't demonstrate that backing her is a positive solution. She will in all likelihood have more votes than Trump, but she will not be pulling voters from him, will not gain support from the people presently backing him. Even delivering policy that does alleviate their situation will not win them over, because as she is seen as an outsider it won't be received as their communities being empowered and their concerns being redressed but instead seen with suspicion (eg the response to the Affordable Care Act)

We desperately need a coherent, organizing oppositional force, active and working in those communities to channel their anger into a movement of political empowerment and commitment to process so that you get negotiating, egalitarianism, compromise, and ready acceptance of disappointing electoral and procedural outcomes as norms. It doesn't need to be the democrats any more than BLM or the Rainbow Coalition are in poor black communities. But we need someone in there and organizing to get them to push for change other than the kind Trump and Pence and Arpaio are offering. Otherwise this is just going to fester, and turn into something even darker like the alt right, eventually they will win.

Then poo poo is going to get really bad.


Deutscher beats Keith in the election, no butterfly to blame this time

You're a hell of a lot more optimistic than I am. I don't think that movement has any chance at redemption without being beaten, broken, and forced to accept their total defeat before tapering off close societal oversight over the next 3 generations. It'll be bad before that, but there's no way to productively channel that rage in my opinion. It's going to have to be dug out and the hole cauterized. There's no way to do it without blasting a loving seared crater in their psyche so deep and vast that they feel nagging ancestral shame for a century.

There was this kid from my neighborhood, younger than I am and more the age of my youngest brother. He was a little poo poo, hyperactive as gently caress and he would constantly wreck people's flowerbeds, ding their cars with rocks, and harrass any outdoor pets. His parents asked him to go start the family car one day, as a lot of people did since it's a really basic thing to do and it means mom and dad don't have to deal with a Florida-hot car as long as the kid turns the AC on. So this kid goes out there and turns on the car, but somehow knocks the column shifter into reverse. He's like 7, tries getting behind this crown vic to just hold it in the driveway while he yells into the house for his parents or something. It doesn't work. The car rolls over him twice and fetches up against his head after it fetches up against the curb on the opposite side of the street. He's conscious the whole time, terrified of what just happened, while the neighbor talks to him trying to keep him calm and still while the loving helicopter tries to set down in the T intersection about 50 feet away. Long story short he was in a coma for a month but remembered almost everything prior to the helicopter when he woke up. His brain was swollen like a bruised cantaloupe, his ribs were a mess as were his internals but he bounced back like kids do. Didn't even miss much school. That whole powerless terror thing stuck with him though, and his mother still says she has to deal with the sickening fact that he's now a better kid through and through because he thinks about his actions and their consequences beforehand, and he's a better kid because he ran himself over with their car.

These fuckers need something like that to haunt their party consciousness for a few generations.

e: http://archive.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=35887 - I wasn't making that story up :v:

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Dec 10, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Fried Chicken posted:

I wouldn't say I'm any more optimistic than you are. What I'm saying is that the only way you get them "beaten, broken, and forced to accept their total defeat before tapering off close societal oversight over the next 3 generations" is by offering another way to sap away the organization's strength and let those committed to the current movement and the ideas and behaviors we find so repugnant be banished to the political wilderness, lacking the power to do anything, and fading away with time.

Who Turned My Blue State Red is a good article on this, but tl;dr - most of the people that this movement are looking to pick up, aren't organized, aren't regular voters. We need another movement out there getting them togehter in some fashion so that the elements we are seeing can't grow, and preferably so that they are turned against the hate we have been seeing.

Right, but the way you sap the organization's strength isn't by strapping a pillow to their fists until they tire out because it does nothing to demonstrate how harmful they are. They need to be drawn into an all-out fight, goaded into throwing everything they have at the wall, get them so angrily confident in themselves that they lash out and shatter their hand against the bricks as everyone watches, and leave them with a hosed-up hand so they remember that time they thought their poisonous ideology had a chance for the rest of their lives. There was an article a while back about a Turkish schoolteacher who was dealing with refugee kids who'd been brainwashed by Daesh - the kids would sit at their desk just writing "Turks are Kuffar" on their papers all day. What do you do when it isn't kids but adults who are that far gone? You can isolate, mitigate, and reform a classroom of brainwashed kids but a grown adult who managed to apply mature thought to their ideology and still thought it was the right thing to follow? You have to thrash them so hard they're not only demoralized but drat near depatterned, and reform them from that husk. They have to know they have been individually defeated, and they have to know their way of thinking has been defeated. Otherwise they'll just say the last guy wasn't enough of a badass and they'll bore even deeper into the pit.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Fried Chicken posted:

Organizing for the Democratic Party or a similar political figure is certainly one possibility, though I'm inclined to agree with icantfindaname that I am skeptical, primarily because of the success in defining the current and next generations of Democratic politicians as outside of the community. This is a foreseeable result of the ascendancy of identity politics over class politics; not much you can do but play the game. But organizing for a political party is not the only option. There are a multitude of other issues to organize around, and pull away association from other organizations. Localized focus for labor organizing, police reform, zoning reform, crime reduction, non-partisan municipals, even library preservation have all been shown to be effective causes in other communities.

We don't need them to agree with us on everything; I'd argue that there isn't even an "us" and that no one here agrees on everything. What we need is them organized around some issue, make them feel they have a voice in the system, that the system will respond to their voice, that it will respond in a way that alleviates their concerns, that they can improve things through cooperation rather than viewing it as a zero sum with other groups. Right now the traditional route to security and advancement for their children, for being, in a word, "respectable", is closed to far too many. Employment is down, wages have been stagnant or declining for 40 years. What little grip they had established is being overwhelmed by rapid demographic and cultural changes giving them perpetual future shock as new neighbors and skillsets out-compete them. The media largely ignores them, and when it does look to these communities it is often with pity or ridicule, both of which are insulting, while simultaneously bombarding them with a message of inferiority for not having the trends and consumer goods of richer urban areas and shaming them for their mistrust or unfamiliarity of outsiders. The system does not respond to their concerns, it is at best distant and unresponsive due to gridlock and ideology; their more common interaction with it is in the form of prisons and cops.

Is it any wonder that all these people, enduring all that, are turning to a movement promising to protect "us" from "them", and to make "us" great again, to keep "us" safe again?

We've got to offer them a different way, a way to improve their station, a way to feel good about themselves, a way to feel pride and satisfaction in their accomplishments. Because otherwise it will not go away, and they will eventually win.

What conjured them out of the swamps was the unrelenting bombast of a hooting madman. These are people who say "The blacks" without a hint of irony. You're drat right society has turned its back on them, because this behavior wasn't placed into their heads like some inception caper. When they were given the choice to learn how to run a CNC machine instead of crawling into a coal mine for the rest of their lives, they chose the hole in the ground because bah gawd their daddy died in that hole and his daddy died down there with'im and there ain't no way he's changin' that. The system does not respond to their concerns for good reason: The system is better off without responding to their concerns, because their concerns are poo poo like demands to oppress minorities just so they can have someone under their boot just like their boss does. Everything you're talking about here fails to account for Kentuckians voting for Bevin. You can lead a horse to water and you can throw the horse into the water, but if the horse doesn't drink you don't have a lot of options - intubate that fucker and make him drink, or shame him as he dies of thirst. Only one of those two solves the root cause of a stubborn horse.

Fried Chicken posted:

Unless you are planning on actually killing them or disenfranchising them for reconstruction, this simply is not going to work. As you said, all they are going to do is double down and keep working, and in our two party system that means they will eventually win. Unless, and only unless, you can redirect their energy so that they don't bore deeper into the pit.

Or, you can deal with the cycle once every ~150 years or so where evil people get shunned, then they get angry, then they attack, then they get crushed. Each time the victors get a little wiser in handling the aftermath and you end up with either a de facto "hillbilly preserve" where the last of them end their days behind glass treated like zoo animals to be gawked at in their primitiveness by civilized society, or something like modern Germany where they're still averse to anything resembling nazis.


Fried Chicken posted:

If you do want to treat it like a civil war, and de-Trump-ify the movement after achieving some victory, my first question is "you and what army?", my second is "how long until the ruling class uses this now acceptable way to ideologically purge to come for you?" and my third is "how was the postwar German occupation you seem to be drawing this from not an example of providing an alternative organizing means to rebuild, empower, and improve their station?"

Solving this problem doesn't necessarily require an army, because leveraging military force against a political issue gives them an out so they can just skip the accountability aspect of defeat (i.e. it wasn't a fair fight, they had soldiers and we had ballots) and come back with a vengeance. I'm talking about shunning them from society so that they can overdose on meth in their trailers heiling their balls off to the swastika without being a threat to society. I'm talking about media portraying them with ridicule and all but subhuman in their backwards ways so that children grow up knowing only racists wear camouflage outside military service and evangelicals are a sneeze short of blowing up the olympics. I'm all for stoking the mistrust between civilized society and these people, because the progress that drove them into exile in the first place will eventually just pave a road over their grave. Your second question is kind of moot given political involvement and awareness.

Third, they hung a lot of people at Nuremburg and locked up a lot more in Spandau. It was a very public "you lost, these are your crimes, you have been tried and found guilty" matter. The extent to which the nazis controlled everything prior to the war makes it a hard fit past that point (because we don't have swathes of people who had to swear fealty to Trump in order to become teachers, etc). Nobody sat down with the guys running the camps to grant legitimacy to their genocide by repurposing their teutonic talent for inhuman efficiency into a solid middle management career, those people got dragged into court, tried for their crimes, and punished. The postwar occupation kept a boot heel hovering before the eyes of anyone who thought they could bring "the old glory days" back, and it seems to have worked there, more or less. They're losing ground with the anti-immigrant poo poo, but at least they're not infested with hillbillies roaming the border waiting for the opportunity to gun down some random Austrian family passing by.

e: poo poo like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWimFepdn4 - alienate their views to the point where they stick out like a sore thumb, deride their way of life to the point where they're met with hostility when they act out, and the second they try to take a swing at someone they get dogpiled and someone is yelling "You ain't doin' that fuckin' poo poo you mother fucker" into their face while they're pinned.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Dec 10, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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TheDeadlyShoe posted:

yeah but now bevin's backing off and just talking about cutting obamacare not eliminating it

probably to make sure only the deserving are on it *nod*

Straight-up bullshitting has been their trademark since like 2008 when they realized people were onto their poo poo way more than they thought. North Carolina and Wisconsin are good examples of that. Just promise you won't touch labor or healthcare, when you break it, what are they gonna do?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Someone in the news had come up with the idea that the establishment is basically waiting until it's too late for Trump to run third party, and once he's committed to the GOP primary then they can turn up the proverbial heat. I can't imagine they have the ability to shut him down at any point, though. He's scraping off all of their obscuring dicta and shouting the meat of their ideology at the top of his lungs. He's tapping directly into what the GOP has been flirting with for 40 years but was too afraid to embrace because it repulses normal people. They're hosed.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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JT Jag posted:

:siren: lovely Classist Post :siren:[/b]
That assumes Trump voters can write!!!
:siren: /lovely Classist Post :siren:

They can write, they love to demonstrate it on the walls of mosques.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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I work as an investigator for a bank and while I came from a payments processing background, a bunch of them started their careers as tellers and more of them had stories about being robbed than I was expecting.

None of them are really into guns though, one of them is like "the gently caress would I need that" like it's the dickbat from saints row.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Thump! posted:

Dehumanize yourself and face to the Trumpshed :unsmigghh:


poo poo, are you Jack Kelso?

I investigate money laundering, not insurance fraud.

I run across a lot of really shady real estate developers though!

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Hollismason posted:

That sounds really interesting , please make a thread or something. Seriously. I'm interesting.

It's like playing eve online without the spaceships.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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KirbyKhan posted:

Guh, that involves going out to a movie theaters... and $12. Why can't my blog posts be just as good as currency?

That's what bitcoin is bro

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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berzerker posted:

I've only seen a few episodes but I thought they recruited minor celebrities to retell sort of history.

Either way, better than the history channel.

There's something magical about the quality of the reenactment being so fine as to include the drunken slurring (and in some cases vomiting) of the storytellers. I lost it in the first episode I watched where Woodward or Bernstein loving barfed on Deep Throat's shoes.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1vcded/drunk-history-woodward---felt

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Dec 13, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Joementum posted:

Woodland, North Carolina has decided not to permit construction of a solar farm. The public comment period included the normal worries about property values and a few other valid concerns.

quote:

“You’re killing your town,” he said. “All the young people are going to move out.”


Couldn't be that the town is packed with filth like this, no sirree.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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comes along bort posted:

It is a traditionally Democratic county and was one of only two counties in the state won by George McGovern.[11] The last Democratic candidate to lose the county was William Jennings Bryan in 1896.[12] In the last five Presidential elections the Democratic candidate has consistently received over 63% of the county's vote.[13]

What does that have to do with them being absolute trash? They managed to convince themselves that a solar farm would suck up all the sunlight.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Sharing economy poo poo is probably headed for a big round of regulatory scrutiny due to the potential for lending an air of "legitimate business activity" to the aggregation of illicit funds. What kind of validation process do they have in place for assuring the rental isn't just a guy in a studio apartment booked up for 6 months solid by shills with dirty money?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Kalman posted:

It'll be after the fact enforcement, mostly, but it gives them leverage to prosecute people who do stupid poo poo with drones.

A good enough reason if you ask me, actual pilots don't gently caress around with wanting clear airspace during landing and takeoff since swerving around some jackass' drone so it doesn't get ingested and blow up the engine is a very dangerous thing while taking off and landing. As there's no feasible way to keep drones from entering the loving airport, they might as well drop the hammer on anyone loving around until the rest get the picture. The same would go for voyeurism and nuisances, but those don't pose the same kind of hazard to public safety as loving around near a passenger airport runway does.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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Aurubin posted:

Ha, they arrested this rear end in a top hat for securities fraud. Guess he pulled back the veil a little too far for the rest of the jackasses.

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-martin-shkreli-securities-fraud/

I hope this fuckface is roasted on the news show circuit all day and then roasted again on the night show circuit before being laughed at by his cellmates for being a big-talking shithead.

(Also I hope they confiscate that album and release it to the public or straight up invalidate the purchase contract allowing for its return via one Bill Murray.)

quote:

Retrophin also asserts that Shkreli entered into payoff agreements with as many as 10 MSMB investors who lost money when the hedge fund became insolvent. Shkreli paid some investors through fake consulting agreements and others through unauthorized appropriations of stock and cash, the company alleged.

Complex financial maneuvers were used to conceal the payments, Retrophin said. For example, the company accused its former CEO of fraudulently reclassifying a $900,000 equity investment that MSMB made in Retrophin as a loan. He then allegedly had Retrophin pay off that loan to settle another unrelated legal dispute.

This is just so characteristic of this shitheel, thinking he's a step ahead of everyone and he can just keep finding a new Peter to rob.

Armenian gangs, at least the ones in California, are notorious for long-running bust-out scams (not all of it being laundered through property investments though) so it's cool this happened like 2 days after he talked all that poo poo about being tied in with the criminal underground.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Dec 17, 2015

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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nachos posted:

Haha I had no idea he interned for Jim Cramer

MY FORMER COFFEE SLAVE MARTIN? *presses foghorn button* BUSTED FOR SECURITIES FRAUD *sirens* *cell door noise*

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

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botany posted:

Is the GOP debate up on youtube somewhere as one large video? All I can find are 10 minute chunks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQe5ShxM2DI

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

My better, prettier half is getting her doctoral hood today after years of grant writing and mouse slaughter in the name of Pharmacology and Experimental Neuroscience (cliff notes: she learned some neat stuff about how HIV gets into brain tissue and what it does once there, as well as noticing some neat things about ARV treatment against certain types of HIV). While this Shkreli news isn't going to top that, it's still a great start to the day.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

CommieGIR posted:

The guy was already being investigated for Fraud prior and short selling. I don't think the SEC is going to be kind.

On the other hand, busting this guy will earn them shittons of brownie points with pretty much everyone, allowing them to slack off for pretty much the rest of 2016.

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