dylguy90 posted:

Very very frightening

Omobono posted:

Jesus Christ the Americans are going to tie FDR to the bow of a troop transport then sail it into the Tokyo Bay Fortress.

What the gently caress is this world going to look like after the war? Assuming baseline Ally competency in the various European theaters, I'm assuming the USSR is going to cover most of Europe, except Spain and maybe France (and no way Franco doesn't decide he was actually a Communist all along), as resources get diverted from western Europe to the pacific and thus the Red Army wins the race to Berlin handily and then keeps going.
The USA are going to go full fascist after this, no questions asked, and I have no clue what the UK will do.

Bip Roberts posted:

Which was apparently also a full infantry division.

vyelkin posted:

Yamato and Musashi vs. Iowa.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Yes.

The obvious solution is to land some piddly-poo poo SNLF outside of SF and sink Patton's candy-rear end while it's loaded onto some xAKs.

Leperflesh posted:

In all seriousness, a raid on pearl harbor at this point would be a single-day battle at land-based air range from PH in which 200+ planes sink every one of GH's ships and that'd be that.

Flavius Belisarius posted:

gradenko_2000 posted:

There's an interesting scenario in TOAW, which I think is itself adapted from a wargame, where one player plays the Allies invading Germany from West plus the Germans defending against the Soviets in the East, while the other player plays the Soviets invading Germany from the East plus the Germans defending against the Allies in the West.

It gives both players a chance at playing offense and defense, and then also heavily incentivizes the defense to be as tough as possible because you need that time to let you run your offense into Berlin ahead of the other guy.

Ikasuhito posted:

Cartoon posted:

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/587/details/The.Operational.Art.of.War.IV

Velius posted:

This comes from the game aiming for historical realism, in this case at the expense of responding to the in game situation. The idea is after things like the Marianas Turkey Shoot (June ‘44) and attritional losses everywhere, a bunch of the IJA and IJN airgroups existed on paper only, with no pilots or planes. Those withdrawals are supposed to represent command realizing that and trying to represent their actual strength, but in practice it means a competent Japanese player suddenly loses a bunch of front line fighter groups for no reason.

There’s similar silliness with aircraft upgrades (you’ve got to upgrade in order, silly, if you don’t have A6M5s still around you can’t use those A6M8s in the hangar!) and things like being able to research radar equipped night fighters early while the radars don’t advance their arrival date.