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Truga
May 4, 2014
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if nothing else, one should go vote to scare cowards away with numbers. 100 million bernie voters or whatever alone would say a lot about what people think about billionahs, and some are bound to run away, possibly resulting in less problems later when poo poo actually hits the fan, which isn't amazing, but it's also a lot more than loving nothing for just throwing a paper into a box.

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Truga
May 4, 2014
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Atrocious Joe posted:

this dead, gay forum is not a great cross section of US society

yeah, the society is even further to the right.

bernie's fiscal policies are spot on with far right parties in my country, and the society won't vote for him because they think he's an unelectable radical commie. of course, he's way to the left of most in idpol, which is great, but lmao that right wingers poisoned the ~but that's socialism~ well so much a tepid socdem grandpa can run as a socialist.

honestly, it's probably good. when the window manages to shift back to the left a bit red scare won't be a thing anymore since everyone to the left of reagan is a socialist now

Truga fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Mar 6, 2020

Truga
May 4, 2014
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yeah this is true

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:

Yeah I've been referring to the Sanders theory of change as mass hypervoluntarism when discussing it with friends who are into Bernie, Chapo, whatever. Zizek advocates for this mindset in First as Tragedy, which I've long admired as a direct refutation of doomerism, but it doesn't really seem to hold up even analytically when applied to electoral politics. For one thing, it puts the horizon of change far closer to the present for it to count as anything more than yet another periodic realignment. For another, there's very little attention given to a long-term strategy; it's only ever partially articulated and always relies on winning THIS fight, which is far from assured. For a third, First as Tragedy was published in 2009 and we don't have the same set of strategic constraints anymore.

ehh, it's not *completely* impossible. bernie keeps saying that getting people in to office is just the beginning of a long rear end process. a violent revolt is going to have the same problem, but with even more shooting involved, which is the thing to avoid.

the hope here is that the buzz around socialist grandpa election succeeds in building a movement massive and organized enough that capital can't oppose entirely consequence free, and then work from there. after all, the only alternative currently in the oven is a revolt that's gonna make 1917 look like a piece of cake by comparison, and nobody in their right mind should be gunning for that (but do prepare for it anyway).

Truga
May 4, 2014
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yeah

Truga
May 4, 2014
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technically cia isn't cops i guess so username checks out?

Truga
May 4, 2014
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america just has more loud gun nuts on the internets.

Truga
May 4, 2014
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voted 5

Truga
May 4, 2014
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gonna post more so he runs out of money quicker, duh

Truga
May 4, 2014
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epstein was a firm believer in communism for the rich

Truga
May 4, 2014
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if nazi speech is covered by freedom of speech, then so should be pre-emptive self defence :v:

Truga fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jul 7, 2020

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Victory Position posted:

Stalin's APM is unprecedented in both pre-millennial and present history. Man could really micro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_76-vZzkChQ

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Enjoy posted:

Delaying the war until after France had fallen was insane and cost millions of Soviet lives

yeah i'm sure a lot of people in mid 1939 figured "oh i guess france will just roll over and die in 6 weeks about a year from now"
e;fb

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Lightning Knight posted:

Like if you want to argue that the Soviet Union was morally obligated to invade Germany when they invaded France that’s one thing but I don’t think you’ve laid out how they could have sustained that military action in practice.

look dude i played hoi4 as ussr several times and there's just no scenario where ussr doesn't hold the entire world by 1941 if the leader is competent :smugbert:

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Enjoy posted:

Counterpoint: the genocide campaign of the Nazis would not have happened

first, nazi genocide campaigns started really shifting gears sometime around 1937-8, when molotov thing happened it was already a done deal

second, do you think sacrificing another an extra 10-20 million eastern european draftees in the garbage fire of ww2 would be somehow better than what had happened? if yes please explain how

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Atrocious Joe posted:

Soviet tanks shouldn't have stopped rolling until they were in Lisbon.

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Centrist Committee posted:

I’m looking at pictures of the red army, and that poo poo is definitely canvas or olive. like maybe a few a sashes of red, MAYBE. why do communists perpetuate these lies???

Truga
May 4, 2014
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THS posted:

lol eliot higgins accusing other people of having no real ideology

his ideology "i loving love blood money" is very real op

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Cpt_Obvious posted:

Can't play videogames if you don't have a home!

nintendo switch fixed that bug

Truga
May 4, 2014
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indigi posted:

they should call it 2SSR

communism with gacha characteristics

Truga
May 4, 2014
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THS posted:

ppl who disagree over whether to vote green or psl for president is so funny, cant think of anything less that matters

IMO, electoralism can and should be used by the proletariat to make a fight, even if only slightly, easier. having an actually-left-of-center party pass the 5% margin or whatever might make fighting for things ever so slightly easier.

that's not to say you should count on BEB to actually give you anything by itself (because let's face it, dems/reps will just raise the funding limit to 10% if a third party gets to 5% by some miracle, but you can then point to that fact and maybe radicalize a couple more people), but just like rope, electoral bullshit is a tool that's being sold by capitalists

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Truga
May 4, 2014
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Truga
May 4, 2014
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permabanned poster slabshevikstomper69

Truga
May 4, 2014
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"i hate centralization, this sucks"

*votes a lib into an office 3000km away*

Truga
May 4, 2014
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just be careful what you wish for, kamala admin will be better at cracking down leftists than trump/pence admin

Truga
May 4, 2014
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StashAugustine posted:

which is why it needs more commies

Even from a bourgeois perspective ive always liked the story of how Frank and Lilliam Gilbreth started their work by going into a factory and saying "show me the laziest guy you have on site", then they'd figure out all the shortcuts he was taking

yeah lazyness is 100% the biggest driving force behind technological progress lmao

Truga
May 4, 2014
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quote:

To be genuinely liberal you have to oppose both, the authoritarians of the state and but also the authoritarianism of corporations. Thus to be genuinely liberal, you have to be marxist.

lmao

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Truga
May 4, 2014
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GalacticAcid posted:

what is something labeled as lowbrow that you think deserves higher esteem
this is tangentially related but lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/g0m/status/1126268286663106561

Truga
May 4, 2014
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anyway, commie states gave us some amazing poo poo, such roadside picnic, tetris, the moscow metro, i-16, and laibach :v:

also an agressively mediocre karl marx anime

Truga
May 4, 2014
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leader_(web_series)

Truga
May 4, 2014
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gradenko_2000 posted:

I watch a lot of retro computing videos and it kinda makes me sad thinking about the different ways computing could have gone under a Soviet system.

One of the stories I picked up was that back in the day, when we would use cassette tapes for data storage, Yugoslav stations would broadcast simple computer programs over the radio: they'd tell you when to press Record on your machine, you'd press it, and for the next few minutes, you'd be picking up analog data that could be read back by the computer when you played back the tape at a later time.

yeah this is how we got like half of our good C64 games, they were broadcast at night time on radio student (which recently got defunded by our right wing govt lmao)

Truga
May 4, 2014
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i'm left, therefore i post

Truga
May 4, 2014
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Raskolnikov38 posted:

I never watched this wretched show but I’m assuming the issue of spalling never comes up

GuP is an amazing sports show that everyone should watch imo

also, it's addressed/handwaved away in one of the early eps

Truga
May 4, 2014
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https://i.imgur.com/ZdjD11Q.mp4

Truga
May 4, 2014
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indigi posted:

what’s the Marxist position on not cleaning the snow off your loving car then driving on the highway? instant execution?

THS posted:

you’re thinking about it wrong. the marxist position is everyone takes the train

Truga
May 4, 2014
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e:doublepost

Truga
May 4, 2014
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yes

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May 4, 2014
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dex_sda posted:

if you gotta pick someone to admire, one of the smartest humans who was also an excellent human being is not a bad shout

privately einstein was quite the dickhead, but who isn't these days lmfao

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