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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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So which Australian sports code/politician is going to be rocked by horrible totally avoidable scandal this month?

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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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It seems like being really stupid in one area sets you up really well to be really loving stupid in other areas.



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hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Everything wrong with my life is clearly the fault of women and not because of my own glaring flaws and deficiencies.

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Gorilla Salad posted:

Have you heard about Men Going Their Own Way? It's a group all about men* they could be right for you.





*hating women and wanting to rape them

Do I get to blame others and take no responsibility for my actions or decisions?

I'm not really down with raping people but I do like being a faultless martyr that is being oppressed despite the fact I'm a privileged first world white male.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Auspol: If we didn't exist, we wouldn't be suffering

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Originally I didn't like the Pavel posts. Because I am at work and having a brightly coloured nearly naked muscleman wasn't really what I wanted to be seen looking at at work.

However relative to man's inhumanity to man they've made a strong showing. Now I'd rather look at lycra muscleman than read more depressing poo poo about our refugee torture program.

Well played sexy beardman, well played.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Vladimir Poutine posted:

I think the Young SA Greens consists entirely of people from this thread

turdbucket posted:

SAGreens are bad IMHO.

Lines up.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Amethyst posted:

Sorry mate, this thread is wacky, edgy, and above all irreverent. Spamming images of an irrelevant model seems like the kind of thing people do in funny cool places like 4chan, so we're gonna keep doing it! Hell yeah! Auspol ftw!

Your idiotic meltdowns are far more childish and asinine than anything else that gets shitposted here. You are in no place whatsoever to critique.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Guardian AU posted:

This was the exchange between Michael Brissenden and Dreyfus this morning.

Q: So do you think the policy should be overturned?

The policy has been instrumental in bringing the flow of refugees to Australia by boat to an end.

Q: But do you believe it’s time to overturn the policy?

We did not envisage, when we introduced this policy, that two and half years on you would have more than 1,000 men, women and children languishing in indefinite detention. It is time for the government to do a great deal more to end the dreadful circumstances in which these men women and children -

Q: Is it time to end offshore detention?

I don’t think it’s necessary to say that, that it is time to end that policy. What does need to be done is that the government’s got to do a great deal more so that we don’t have people in this situation. Two and a half years is an eternity, particularly for children and this present situation can’t be allowed to continue.

Hahahahahahahaahahaha :suicide:

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Amethyst posted:

I am, actually, since this thread has been rolling around pathetically like a bunch of moron children for several pages now, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with my influence.

Congratulations on not being the cause of this particular shitposting disaster. This clearly makes you a wise and good poster and not a huge idiot who melts down at the slightest provocation.

EDIT: I'm sorry Amethyst, I'm grumpy today and the whole refugee thing is really loving getting to me.

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EDIT: ^^^ Agree: Banning shitheads good, no due process bad.

gently caress Labor, gently caress them for passing a retrospective "Torture refugees" bill that means the government wins in the high court.

Labor you have no loving purpose, you aren't an opposition you're a cowardly accomplice.

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Oct 11, 2007

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Guardian AU posted:

Government monitoring social media accounts to hunt down welfare fraud
State and federal agencies outsourcing to private contractors to conduct surveillance on private accounts of people suspected of making false welfare claims

State and federal government agencies are increasingly outsourcing to private contractors to investigate and conduct surveillance on welfare and work-related claims, including through monitoring social media.

On Wednesday the Daily Telegraph reported the Department of Human Services had been gathering evidence from social media accounts and other online accounts in relation to cases about false Centrelink payment claims.

The department had been using information from accounts to debunk claims. The Daily Telegraph reported that in at least one case, posts from a Twitter account were used to prove two people who were claiming welfare as single people were in a relationship and had announced a pregnancy together.

Federal contracts showed a series of agreements with private investigators to conduct “security surveillance and detection” on behalf of the department.

Many of these contracts were for the primary purposes of conducting “optical surveillance”.


Questions have been put to the department about which organisations are conducting social media monitoring, and how much the department pays for these services.

But there is a broader trend across government to rely on private contractors to investigate claims of fraud or workers’ compensation claims.

NSW tender documents also show that Workcover NSW took on some of the same private investigators as the Department of Human Services to conduct surveillance on their behalf. Workcover NSW commissioned more than 10 private investigators from 2015-18 to assist them in conducting investigations and surveillance into Workcover claims. The contracts were worth more than $3m.


The use of social media analysis – or “open-source intelligence” – is a growing and lucrative field for private contractors, but has raised the concerns of some privacy advocates.

The Department of Human Services said it had discovered more than $2m in fraudulent claims through social media monitoring.

How the gently caress can hiring private investigators to look into fraud that is worth ~1300 dollars a year (the difference between single and partnered payments) possibly be loving economical...

Oh wait it isn't it's just gently caress the poors.

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Anidav posted:

"Centrelink contracted investigators have also nabbed $1.7 million in fraud by scanning the eBay online auction accounts of welfare recipients who were selling off assets without declaring the sale price as income."

Lmao, what the gently caress.

Given the millions of dollars of fraud these investigators are worth. I wonder how many private investigators are performing detective work on tax avoiding multinationals. There must be a whole army of them if a couple million is worth this much investment!

"The Australian Taxation Office has cut 4400 jobs in the past 19 months with one staff member telling a Senate hearing many of them were "our go-to" people.
On Thursday, the Community and Public Sector Union told the hearing into corporate tax avoidance Australia's tax collection would be hurt by the workforce reduction"
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nat...l#ixzz3z7GJuxVJ

Oh...

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Think being the only party that has a stance of: "Don't torture refugees" gives you a pretty strong case for having a monopoly on empathy.

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Periphery posted:

Surely there's enough evidence to prove that it would be a fiscally and socially responsible thing to do?

I've found the part of this that won't play with voters.

Evidence is meaningless, feels are important.

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"Guardian Au posted:

Victims sick at heart that George Pell won't front child sex abuse royal commission
Medical report from Rome kept secret but royal commissioner accepts that travelling to Australia might have ‘serious consequences’ for cardinal’s health

The cardinal won’t be coming. It’s his heart. A fresh medical report from Rome says it would be “difficult” for Cardinal George Pell to take the long flight home to give further evidence to the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

“It doesn’t preclude his travel,” observed the commissioner Peter McClellan. “It doesn’t say he can’t come.” But McClellan has accepted the verdict of Pell’s medicos that a journey home at this time might have “serious consequences” for His Eminence’s health.

It’s an unhappy outcome all round. McClellan wants him to give evidence in person. Abuse victims are keen to confront the man in the flesh. And the cardinal, it seems, may never walk the streets of his native Ballarat again.

Just how sick he is remains a mystery. Pell is keen to keep the finer details of his heart problems secret.

His counsel, Alan Myers QC, argued against releasing the medical reports in full: “All it would do is provoke some sort of debate in the press about the medical condition of Cardinal Pell. There is no public interest in that.”

Under strict secrecy, McClellan allowed four barristers to read the latest report. Unimpressed was Paul O’Dwyer SC who told the commission the two-page document revealed “common or garden problems in a man of the cardinal’s age”.

O’Dwyer represents the school principal Graeme Sleeman who lost his job after trying to get rid of a deranged paedophile, Fr Peter Searson. The Searson case is a problem for Pell: he investigated the priest and left him in his Melbourne parish.

Sleeman never worked in the Catholic school system again.


O’Dwyer observed that the difficulties facing Pell “fade into insignificance” compared with the pain and distress of victims giving evidence to the commission.

But none of the barristers – some in Sydney and some gathered in Melbourne – challenged the medical report outright. One or two remarked that they were not cardiologists and had no access to cardiologists to contest its conclusions.

Barristers and the commission threw around possible solutions: could the cardinal come by short stages? What about oxygen on the flight? Could he, wondered the commissioner, come by sea?

But time is on Pell’s side. “There is a need,” said McClellan, “to bring the matter to an end as soon as we can conveniently do so.”

He is going to consider his position over the weekend but the commissioner clearly signalled that Pell will be allowed to give evidence by video link from Rome beginning on 29 February.

He is expected to be in the box for about four days: three days’ questioning by counsel assisting the commission, Gail Furness SC, and another day’s questioning by the barristers representing victims.

McClellan also foreshadowed he will release some, at least, of the cardinal’s medical report on Monday. The public, he said, had a right to know why Pell would not be present in the flesh. His counsel agreed. He told the commission his client was anxious “to avoid the appearance of unwillingness to give evidence”.

gently caress Pell, I wish hell were real so that he'd burn there forever, the irredeemable child abuser protecting coward.

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fiery_valkyrie posted:

I think dying on his way to the Royal Commission would be a fitting way for Pell to go.

I don't know, I'd prefer defrocked and then publically flogged but I'd settle for this.

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Man I'm glad those investigators are catching bad eggs like her and then going through lengthy legal proceedings only to lose because Centrelink are incompetent idiots who made the mistake in the first place.

Better hire some more to crack down on this terrible welfare fraud.

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"On Monday McClellan revealed that the conditions were hypertension and ischaemic heart disease. While it would be preferable that Pell fly to Australia to give evidence, McClellan said the commissioners were satisfied doing so would pose a risk to Pell’s health and that his condition was unlikely to improve."

gently caress you Pell. You loving coward.

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Tokamak posted:

Funny how those conditions didn't prevent him from leaving the country.

I look forward to his heart disease and hypertension being totally mysteriously cured the next time he wants to fly somewhere and is suddenly well enough to.

Aresetralian Feb 15:
"The article claims that Cardinal Pell regularly flies business class and spent $US1103 ($1585) on a flight from Rome to London last year."

Good to know his hypertensions and heart disease appeared completely within the last 12 months.

hooman fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 8, 2016

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Purchase one less F-35, all welfare fraud problems resolved.

The issue screaming llama is those who are cheating are doing it carefully and intentionally and it's very difficult to find those people. However the more time you spend investigating, the more false positives you return of people who have done nothing wrong and then are totally hosed by having their money taken away for no reason. The harder you work to stop people "cheating" the higher and harder you set the bar for desperate people who really need help to get it.

My university educated friends struggle with centrelink, filling in forms correctly, passing off all the documentation, etc. etc. because of how "hard on cheats" it is, desperately trying to prove every single detail of their lives. I'm sure you can imagine how hard this makes it on people who are mentally unwell, physically or mentally disabled, or simply poor in time or education.

I don't give a gently caress about welfare fraud, because out of all the wastes it is firstly a tiny one, the amount of money we as the australian people are losing to it (compared to things like corporate tax avoidance and the f35 is miniscule). Secondly the people who are defrauding welfare who get cracked down on are the loving poor. Who cares if they get al ittle extra money, they have loving nothing and every dollar they get goes straight into the economy anyway, better they get money they aren't entitled to than you cut off people who are entitled to the money because of false positives and they end up broken on the street.

This isn't loving hard. Welfare is a pittance and if some people are getting more of a pittance than others who the gently caress cares, it's so small as to be not worth enforcing and merely takes them slightly closer to having a living wage.

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In the choice between refugees drowning at sea and refugees being tortured to death in our hellcamps, I think.. refugees drowning at sea probably.

Quick deaths to some, good lives to others seems better than slow deaths to all.

Still a false dichotomy like all get out though.

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"Approximately half of all complaints made to Australia’s windfarm commissioner relate to turbines that have not yet been built, the man tasked with the job has said."

hahhahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaa

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MythLisp posted:

I just read the comments on the Daily Telegraph facebook page about this story and now want to die.

Vale MythLisp.

Here have something dumber:

A Fuckhead posted:

If David Morrison had any honour, he’d resign

DAVID Morrison, the Left’s latest choice as Australian of the Year, used to be big on “standards” when he was chief of Army.

“The standard you walk past is the standard you ­accept,” he thundered in his “Jedi Council” speech of 2013, so acclaimed by the feminist establishment because he claimed demeaning attitudes towards women were “systemic” in the Australian Defence Force.

This was Morrison’s mantra when he stripped a blameless lieutenant colonel of his command two months after that speech, for failing to be aware of sexist and pornographic emails cc’d to him by a civilian, which he hadn’t opened.

Morrison shamed the married officer in public statements by claiming he was part of the so-called Jedi Council “sex ring”, as an excitable media dubbed it, and killed his promising career. He didn’t name him, but he didn’t have to.

Everyone in the Army knew which lieutenant colonel in Townsville had been marched out of his office by military police wearing plastic gloves.

“Ken”, 43, has tried to kill himself twice since he was ­retired medically unfit last January, most recently on Australia Day after watching TV coverage of Morrison receiving his gong. He is due to enter a military hospital this week for treatment including electro-convulsive therapy.

Wont somebody think of the sexual abusers!

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*watches america desperately trying to nationalise the horribly broken, overcosting underdelivering healthcare system*

"Hmmm we should definitely move towards the system they're moving away from."

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thatfatkid posted:

There's no gene that forces a fatfuck to continue to be a fatfuck.

Even as someone who recognises that the reason he's overweight is due to the choices he makes this is loving comedy.

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gay picnic defence posted:

I'm no doctor but I'm tipping that a first world diet and lifestyle play a bigger role in it.

Yes, just like with alcohol and drug addiction there are lifestyle social and economic reasons but there are also genetic dispositions.

thatfatkid posted:

Hmm yes obesity is clearly caused by anything other than eating too much loving food and not exercising enough.

But that's not what you said.

thatfatkid posted:

There's no gene that forces a fatfuck to continue to be a fatfuck.

For example drug addiction is caused by taking drugs, making that choice and then subsequently not being able to change those habits can be genetic. In fact the "adventure" gene that those lovely car ads harp on about is also a strong predictor for drug addiction. Sure thing though, any deviation from perfection is just a personal failing.

EDIT: Do you actually understand why people get fat? Because their body is sending their brain incorrect hungry signals. Nobody goes "Well, I've eaten my salad and am fully sated, however now I'm going to eat 5 big macs because I want to be fat".

I guess unless that's someone's weird fetish.

EDIT2: Accidentally doxxing Soag ITT

hooman fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 9, 2016

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thatfatkid posted:

People get fat/obese poor because they're lazy pieces of poo poo who eat too much are lazy and don't exercise try enough. There is no justification for being obese poor and making excuses for the obese poor as if they have no agency is just enabling them.

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thatfatkid posted:

Hahaha really? Comparing a self inflicted health issue to poverty? Wow, just wow...

What is this mysterious link between being poor and being obese?

What is the strange synchonicity between lack of access to education and jail?

What ever bizarre thing could be drawing these factors together?

Nah mustn't be anything, every outcome can only possibly have one cause and that single cause is human agency.

EDIT: Sorry Recoombe didn't refresh before I hit post. This is seriously loving dumb though.

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EvilElmo posted:

And you know, the fact they only appeal to a small section of the population.

Wow 8.6%.

Good policies correlate directly with votes received, this is why Tony Abbott was elected.

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MysticalMachineGun posted:

Yeah, I played around with it as well and it just can't be that easy. Can it?

Sure it is, but nobody wants to make their rich backers mad.

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Amethyst posted:

Not sure how a corrupt embezzler has any bearing whatsoever on ScreamingLlama's ideas on welfare fraud.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it points toward the majority of fraud (by dollar value) is not being committed by people on welfare especially when compared to white collar crime.

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Amethyst posted:

Ok, but they are entirely unrelated crimes.

They are both defrauding the government of money...

How many mates deals are there with property investors, with preferred contractors, with developments, grants, land approvals do you think are entirely above board?

How many private investigators is the government hiring to track these down? All of it is fraud committed against the Australian Government.

EDIT: ^^ I'm pretty sure embezzlement is a type of fraud.

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Birb Katter posted:

Change from within

Drink piss from within.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

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Best.

hooman
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Auspol March: Holt aliv and real strong wizard

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Hi everyone it is Chris Shortis, Shermon's actions are absolute treachery. I hope you are satisfied with your latest act of lies and nonsense, Shermon.
I have personally invested $1000's of dollars as to the movement the UPF, The entire leadership group have invested time and much money as well, we are not nazis you uneducated moron.
I have the Quran, does that make me a suicide bomber or a Jihadist? I am also seeking the communist manifesto, and the Mein Kemph to study my enemy or enemies.
Everyone that has watched my videos on Islam knows I have studied the Quran. It is called knowledge mate.
Blair Cottrell is exactly the same, a man who studies history, and you have slandered my friend and brother. Hope we never cross paths again.
We are for Australia you foolish man, and knowledge of the bad ideologies is the best weapons to fight these ideologies so that Australia can remain free.
We at the UPF are studying the Constitution so we are equipped to take on the corrupt politicians in Canberra which behave exactly the same way as you have now, that is with treachery.
You are the Judas Iscariot of the movement and I can guarantee that level minded patriots will stick with us and only morons like yourself will follow you. You better hook up with Michael Voysey now you would make good bedfellows.
The UPF will continue to rise as your pathetic light will now dim and eventually extinguish, you were never a patriot, just a self centred ego maniac obsessed with his own popularity.
You are a snake, and you are cursed until you publicly denounce your videos and apologies without reserve.
Chris Shortis UPF/Fortitude.
P.S I would have made a video, but FB has banned me posting videos.

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https://www.facebook.com/100009413836436/videos/1569286923395087/

I almost feel sorry for this guy.

"W..wa...wait a second, you guys are actual Nazis? I thought that was just leftists saying mean things!!"

EDIT: Oh wait hahaha he knew all along, he is just splitting now because he's losing control.

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Guardian AU posted:

Reuters distances itself from Greg Hunt 'best minister' award: 'It wasn't our idea'
Confusion surrounds the process by which Australia’s environment minister was crowned the world’s No 1, with the news agency denying it designed the scheme

Confusion surrounds the selection process for the “best minister in the world” award bestowed upon Greg Hunt at the World Government Summit in Dubai for his efforts to reduce carbon emissions.

According to the summit’s website in the United Arab Emirates, the “best minister in the world” award was “thoroughly and independently managed by Thomson Reuters where the search for the nominees is conducted according to the established criteria”.

According to a radio interview by the “humbled” Hunt, the award was also initiated by Reuters.

“Reuters news agency said to the UAE government that they’d like to create the award and present it at the World Government Summit,” the federal environment minister said.

“They then commissioned the World Bank, the OECD, Ernst & Young and an international strategic firm called Strategy and Co to draw up a list of 100 – they then winnowed it down to 10. They used a series of criteria, they had a voting program – and we didn’t know about it, and I got a call just over a week ago.”

But Thomson Reuters said it was “not correct” to say that the company initiated the award or were responsible for designing the selection process.

“Thomson Reuters was solely responsible for assisting in the administration of the award, to a set of criteria approved by the World Government Summit organisers,” said Tarek Fleihan, head of corporate communications for the financial information company in the Middle East, Africa and Russia.

Thomson Reuters promised a full clarifying statement, but has not yet issued one. Reuters news said it had no involvement in the process.

Accepting the award at the summit, Hunt said that “on a personal level I am genuinely humbled to receive this award. I am, however, deeply proud that this inaugural award is being presented to an environment minister.”

In an interview with Fairfax Media, Hunt described his win as “really an award for Australia” and reassured readers that his wife had insisted he “still had to put the bins out”.

The website says there were nominations from 80 countries, which were assessed based on four criteria:

Innovation and leadership: the solution that was introduced by the candidate will have revolutionised the utilisation of government services by its citizens. This work of true innovation will have increased productivity, reduced costs and improve the citizen’s opinion of the government.
Quality and impact: the solution should address the needs of the citizens and must demonstrate a significant social impact. Significant social impact includes but is not limited to easily accessible government services for all citizens, efficiency in execution, human development impact, job creation, etc.
Replication: the solution must have the quality of being easily replicated in multiple geographies. The solution should demonstrate propensity for impact beyond the local level, either nationally, regionally or globally.
Reputation: the candidate must be highly credible amongst his peers and the general public. The candidate must have a proven record amongst his peers of developing innovative solutions that have positively impacted the citizens.


“The aim of this award is to recognise innovation in global government work and highlight ministerial initiatives that have resulted in positive changes in their communities,” the UAE minister of cabinet affairs, Mohammed Al Gergawi, told the summit as he gave Hunt the award.

“Our world today needs ministers to serve as role models of thought and action, which bring about progress and welfare and improve general societal wellbeing.”

Official statistics released in December revealed Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions increased in the year to the end of June 2015 by 0.8% and by 1.3% when land use and deforestation were taken into account.


On Wednesday the Greens deputy leader, Scott Ludlam, attacked Hunt’s “brazen audacity” over accepting the “best minister in the world” award.

In a satirical address to the nation, Ludlam said while the award “might sound like something his mum made up ... on behalf of the Australian Greens I am asking you to join me in calling on Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to declare February the 10th a public holiday to mark this unique occasion”.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/11/reuters-distances-itself-from-greg-hunt-best-minister-award-it-wasnt-our-idea

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