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Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I really like the Spidey costume.

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Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I thought the crux of the argument was that registration basically means you're a tool of the government/a weapon at their disposal. Cap already did that and hated it. Whether they communicated it well or not is fair game.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Neo Rasa posted:

So do they charge up to each other to all fight in a group but then Spider-Man breaks it up and is like "THE REAL ENEMY IS ______ !"
The time for talk is over

Stand up comedy on the other hand..

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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All it takes is a children's movie to begin the destruction of civilized discourse between man children

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The big joke for Marvel properties is that each movie is just a 2 hour long trailer for the next film, but that actually seems to be the case with Batman vs Superman. Our worst fears realized.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Box Office Projections have Batman vs Superman ending up somewhere roughly at $340m domestic.

All time superhero domestic would look like this:

Avengers: $623m
Dark Knight: $534m
Ultron: $459m
Dark Knight Rises: $448m
Iron Man 3: $409m
Spider Man: $403m
Spider Man 2: $373m
Deadpool: $358m
BVS (est.): $340m
Spider Man 3: $336m


So BVS would be 9th all time.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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computer parts posted:

That's a hell of a drop-off for Ultron.
That's pretty much the first thing I noticed

If you adjust for inflation, it doesn't change too much.

code:
1	The Avengers	May 4, 2012	Adventure	PG-13	$623,279,547	$660,081,224
2	The Dark Knight	Jul 18, 2008	Action	PG-13	$533,345,358	$626,080,555
3	Spider-Man	May 3, 2002	Adventure	PG-13	$403,706,375	$585,756,409
4	Spider-Man 2	Jun 30, 2004	Adventure	PG-13	$373,524,485	$507,054,974
5	The Dark Knight Rises	Jul 20, 2012	Action	PG-13	$448,139,099	$474,599,567
6	The Avengers: Age of Ultron	May 1, 2015	Action	PG-13	$459,005,868	$459,005,868
7	Iron Man 3	May 3, 2013	Action	PG-13	$408,992,272	$424,084,233
8	Spider-Man 3	May 4, 2007	Adventure	PG-13	$336,530,303	$412,347,448
9	Iron Man	May 2, 2008	Action	PG-13	$318,604,126	$374,051,130
10	Deadpool	Feb 12, 2016	Action	R	$358,424,739	$358,424,739
11	Batman Forever	Jun 16, 1995	Action	PG-13	$183,997,904	$356,575,242
12	Guardians of the Galaxy	Aug 1, 2014	Adventure	PG-13	$333,172,112	$343,771,168
13	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	Mar 25, 2016	Action	R	$296,685,542	($340 est) 
14	Iron Man 2	May 7, 2010	Adventure	PG-13	$312,128,345	$333,816,603
15	Man of Steel	Jun 14, 2013	Action	PG-13	$291,045,518	$301,785,199
16	X-Men: The Last Stand	May 26, 2006	Action	PG-13	$234,362,462	$301,629,851
17	X2	May 2, 2003	Action	PG-13	$214,949,694	$300,501,807
Except that goddamn Batman Forever made a ton of money

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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SolidSnakesBandana posted:

Batman Forever is actually good I think. A waste of Two Face and Tommy Lee Jones but overall it's not bad. I think it's way better than Batman Returns to be honest. Returns has like 15 total minutes of Batman and it's mostly just the fights.
Batman Forever is my favorite Batman movie. It's so off the walls. Batman Returns can go away.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The only hero I don't want them to mess up is Doctor Strange. Please be good.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I like it. Looks like it's cribbing a bit from Inception with some of the visuals, but pretty trippy.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I wish Dr. Strange was rated R.

quote:

Spider-Man: Homecoming arrives July 7th, 2017. After announcing the title, Sony played a short teaser clip showing Robert Downey Jr’s Tony Stark visiting Peter and his Aunt May in his Queens apartment.

It’s so hard for me to believe that she’s someone’s aunt,” said Tony about May – a reference to the fact that Homecoming’s Aunt May, Marisa Tomei, is couple decades younger than Rosemary Harris was in the first Spider-Man film.

:yikes:

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Why that, of all properties?

It's probably wishful thinking but I hope this is the vanishingly rare superhero movie that's about wonder and wisdom, not violence.
Just dealing with stuff of the Occult, demons, things like that. I think it gives you a wider berth for the imagery - not so much violence.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Zzulu posted:

Hm, do you guys think Robert Downey Jr has issues with his height?

Why do you think he built a suit of armor?

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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If MODOK shows up in Infinity War I will lose it.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Josh Lyman posted:

One thing I don't get about Civil War is that Iron Man and Captain America are on opposite sides of what I would expect. I would think Tony would be a vigilante and Cap would be all truth justice and the America way.
That's the point

Cap is subverting the idea of what's best for America because he is disillusioned with what America stands for despite being its icon

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Mediocre is the Mantra of the new DC Universe of films though.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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How can we adapt our movie franchises of super powered awesome people to the small screen? Make an ensemble cast of boring paperwork pushers and Alias level espionage. Now everyone has super powers or something? Agents of Shield is bad and has way too many episodes per season. Making a show of D-listers isn't exactly a great idea.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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MacheteZombie posted:

Marvel must have considered a success, at least internally, they wanted to keep Norton and when they couldn't get him back, they kept the movie in the MCU anyway.
There's really not much important in the film anyways besides - the Hulk exists. He pissed off General Ross. The Avengers are a thing.

I'm actually kind of glad they recast Banner. I like Ruffalo in the Banner role better.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Thor 2 / Iron Man 2 are universally the worst MCU films.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I always thought it would be funny to see how comic book nerds would react if it was Tony Edison, and Vanko was Tesla, and it was an Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter style movie about that.
Justin Hammer is Westinghouse

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Hopefully as Shuri

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Sir Kodiak posted:

Black Panther's love interest probably won't be his sister. This isn't Star Wars.
:laffo: I didn't even read the link as love interest.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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NTRabbit posted:



A Major and a Batou spottted in downtown Hong Kong

http://imgur.com/gallery/cUPBt
I kind of wish Batou was Vincent D'Onofrio

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Justice League: We nailed the Marvel formula this time

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The Justice League teaser definitely screams, "we're like a Marvel movie now, please like us"

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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computer parts posted:

More like "we have absolutely no SFX done except for lightning effects".
What does that have to do with the quips and general tone?

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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HIJK posted:

Nope sorry Marvel/Disney owns all humor in movies and all movies with quips and funny lines are Marvel-esque due to the Mouse owning every single joke ever.

In fact I bet you didn't know Marvel invented the very concept of jokes and humor. Checkmate, DC.
This man gets it. After Lex Luthor's manna from heaven jar of piss, DC finally bowed to the altar of the Mouse.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The movies I like are good. The movies I don't like are bad.

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Jan 15, 2006

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The problem with the DC TV slate is that the seasons are too long. I would like them to switch to a different model where say Flash happens from Sept-Dec/Jan and Arrow happens from Jan-May or vice versa. This is especially apparent in the last couple seasons of Arrow where the story was so thin to stretch it over 23 episodes was kind of laughably bad or exhaustive to how much they struggled.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I liked Doctor Strange. I don't think it achieves the goodness of Ant-Man or Guardians of the Galaxy but I think it does enough to pull itself away from the Avengers mush.

It's just making me more bummed that the shared universe is still a thing. The more the single movies isolate themselves from the MCU plot - I think the better they are.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I've been reading this thread long enough that there's a distinct cycle.

*marvel movie releases to better than average critical and fan praise* It's bad, actually.

*dc movie releases to worse than average critical praise* It's good, actually.

And then people fight about differences of opinion. That's my hot take okay.

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Jan 15, 2006

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sassassin posted:

The alternative would function like those TVIV threads where everyone is racing to praise new episodes of popular shows the most, quoting lines of dialogue (that don't even turn out to be jokes) as they hear them, and getting their vital two-cents in about how the episode was amazing when it turns out they don't even remember what happened in the third act. It's not pretty or fun.

Constructing arguments against the common perception is half the fun of criticism. Constructing arguments against those arguments is the other half (you don't see this much here).

Whining that people dare to have opinions is just asinine.

I don't mind the criticism and I enjoy the in depth posts that people make, it's just funny that it always seems to works that way. You can usually pinpoint the person who is going to take x stance. The one weird thing, to me, is some of the criticism seems to take on a definitive statement.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The Technocrat Avengers continue to put down the working class man who wants to bring about a glorious socialist revolution

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The rumor/conventional wisdom is that Marvel is trying to tank promotion of Fantastic Four to force Fox's hand.

But I'd say Fox is doing a bang up job destroying the license on their own. The other important thing to note is that Fantastic Four seem pretty boring compared to what the MCU is doing. If they faded away, I wouldn't be upset. If Mr. Fantastic had been an antagonist of Tony Stark all along - maybe there would have been some nice tension.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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The rumor doesn't seem to be going away along with all the headaches / drama / whatever surrounding production on The Batman.

It would be neat to have a non Bruce Wayne representation in their DC world.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Can't wait until the end of Flashpoint when a younger or new Batman takes over and everyone just accepts it

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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Amazing that Ben Affleck is stepping down as Batman to play Gorilla Grodd

Harlock
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Mother of dumb macguffins.

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Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

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I am absolutely shocked that affleck is out, shocked I tell you

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