EU Politics: I miss Renaults(don't make fun of me)

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Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

LemonDrizzle posted:

Anybody who owns pounds or gets paid in pounds has been materially hurt by this vote.

Pounds are not real wealth and only have value because a bunch of other people think they do. :smug:

Or did.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 13:28

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 05:45

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

MeLKoR posted:

It's a corporate subsidy that eats up nearly half the EU budget.

It's also protectionist in a manner that fucks over farmers in North Africa and the Levant, and had a non-trivial effect in the start of the Syrian Civil War by forcing bankrupt farmers into cities. You can't undo that by scrapping CAP, but it's still intrinsically a bad thing.

punakone posted:

So the EU EFFECT research about firearms and forensics was published, you can read it here: http://www.coventry.ac.uk/Global/08%20New%20Research%20Section/FINAL%20EFFECT%20PROJECT%20REPORT.pdf

quote:

Following the November Paris attacks, the EC proposed amendments to the 1991 Firearms Directive, including measures such as: a five year ceiling on firearms certificate life; medical tests for applicants for gun licenses; bringing more forms of firearms within the scope of the directive (such as collectors� items and acoustic weapons); regulating blank-firing and replica weapons; tighter controls on deactivation including a ban on the ownership of deactivated category A firearms; tighter controls on dealers; and stricter rules around deactivation standards inter alia.

What did any of these have to do with the November Paris attacks? Did the terrorists use converted blank-firing and replica weapons, or are they just doing "something must be done, this is something", as has often been the case after such tragedies?

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 14:09

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Pluskut Tukker posted:

Terrorists have used reactivated decommissioned weapons produced in Slovakia in some attacks; one of the things the directive does is set more stringent standards for decommissioning weapons:

That's a case against (badly) deactivated weapons, but the rest seems to be using the terror attacks as an excuse to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The only terror attack you could commit by converting blank-firing and replica weapons is against your own fingers, I've never heard of an LRAD being used in an attack that isn't by a government sanctioned force, and collectors' items are usually overpriced and worthless for a spree attack.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 15:21

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Cat Mattress posted:

It's in French, not in Taushiro. Google Translate ought to be something approaching to nearly readable.

Anyway, the gist is that some tourists took selfies on the beach, the local Maghrebin population attacked them for the offense, one guy defending his son against the Arabs was shot with a harpoon gun, then the Corsican population went all mob justice in retaliation and the gendarmerie barely managed to prevent people from killing each other.

Afterwards, the mayor banned burkinis.

Sounds like some bad root cause analysis there, he'd have done better banning beach selfies.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 18:16

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Indonesia and UAE looking p. good. Or maybe Sweden is better at encouraging reporting. Who can tell.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 19:03

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

How about we just call those who support it 'loving idiots' and then those who think it's a bad idea for various reasons can all be in agreement and nobody gets their feelings hurt?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 10:16

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

So you'd ban Holy Week in Spain because some hardcore racists wear something similar and that scares you?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 10:27

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

computer parts posted:

Considering the women most likely to wear burqas are recent converts, it might be more accurate to say that the goal is to prevent white women from converting to Islam.

If that's the case, considering that the most common reason for women converting to Islam is for marriage, maybe the goal is to prevent miscegenation.

That has been the root cause of a lot of worthless prohibitionism throughout history, but personally I think that's reaching a bit here, and the root cause is more 'it's different and I don't like it'.

Al-Saqr posted:

I hate to break it to you guys, but a person choosing to wear a piece of cloth while going for a swim or while shopping for groceries is not the same as abuse or mass murder. I know, it's crazy. by that logic people enlarging their ear lobes or defacing themselves with tattoos should be banned from public since theyre clearly abusing themselves and shouldn't be trusted to go swim on the beach.

If you opened a pop up hipster beach then they would self segregate for about a week.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 15:04

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

computer parts posted:

I mean, considering the similar circumstances regarding black men and white women in America, even if it is an unfounded belief it could still be the reason behind the policy.

It could be. I don't think the average person on the street even thinks 'white woman' when they complain about the burka though, or knows that white women wear them. That's part of the reason some people hate them so much.

The standard miscegenation complaint about Muslim men and white women is that they believe that Muslim men use white women as 'practice girls' before they get married to Muslim women, as if the two categories are mutually exclusive, so there is a fear there, but it's not a "putting burkas on are white womens" one.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Aug 18, 2016

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 15:42

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Geriatric Pirate posted:

I mean if the goal is to maintain an inefficient, corrupt and over-reaching state

Neoliberal states have been pretty great at being corrupt, ineffective, and over-reaching when it comes to prohibition, mass-surveillance, and limitation of due process. The only place that they seem to have any major objection to being overly interventionist is when it comes to private profits or employers curtailing those nasty workers' rights.

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 16:17

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

CommieGIR posted:

So when do you start banning Habits? Or is this a Muslim only headwear ban?

Bah the kippah, they could be hiding anything under there. Like pattern baldness.

Geriatric Pirate posted:

Where in the world do you have better human rights than in the "neoliberal" (which is a retarded word but since you insist on using it) states of Western Europe and North America?

You've not noticed an increase in the number of nonsensical bans to cover up the failure of other policy in the last couple decades?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2016 16:39

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Give or take a few well placed bombs in Spain's case.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 16:51

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Private Speech posted:

he has English blood and how foreigners aren't entitled to be in Britain

He should try that in the Highlands or else gently caress off to the Low Countries.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 17:19

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Nyarlothotep posted:

Hey, the Angles came from northern Germany, don't foist those assholes off on us.

What we need is strong Controls on Immigration so when they go over there to get radicalized and vomit in your streets we can stop them coming back again.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 18:08

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

CommieGIR posted:

https://twitter.com/giles_fraser/st...556230235258880

I'm glad Captain Cousteau isn't around to see this.

# ¿ Aug 24, 2016 23:05

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

A better equivalent in the US would be Native Americans, especially since Roma and Travellers used to be heavily dependent on the common land system until the various governments and landowners of Europe enclosed it all and kicked them off, then told them that it was their fault.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2016 15:51

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Kassad posted:

So, how many posters in this thread think there were almost no Muslims in France until the refugee crisis? Because it's not the first post I see that implies this.

I read it that the Muslims ejected by Le Pen would be refugees.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2016 19:43

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Toplowtech posted:

It's like a texan school book quoting Obama and then sourcing it to stormfront.org

I doubt they'd be that obvious. Conservapedia or Breitbart I can believe.

# ¿ Sep 6, 2016 18:34

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

blowfish posted:

National borders are such a quaint and outdated concept, get hosed.

Then dissolve them, don't just make a bigger nation, especially not one based around the old bad idea of Europeans/Africans/Asians.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 21:16

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

France invading a country that has only existed in the minds of Tories and Sun readers for the past 300 years would be a good thing. They could all have a fight on some lovely east coast beach and nothing of value would be lost.

Unless you mean taking over the football team, but why would you even want to?

# ¿ Sep 9, 2016 23:16

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

What does France have in common with Finland that it doesn't with Haiti? Or the Netherlands with Romania but not South Africa?

Because I've a feeling that European homogenisation is going to either boil down to 'rich ppl wealth protection club' or

# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 09:50

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Which of those do you believe to be most important in forming a union?

Should it be geography, in which case Eastern Europe might be better off with Russia than Western Europe; Greece, Turkey, and the former Yugoslav states should go well together; and Spain is a natural for union with Morocco.

Or should it be socioeconomic development, in which case you just end up with the rich developed nations club and gently caress everyone else.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2016 11:15

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Makes a change from the usual way around where it's 50 antifa against half a dozen fascists.

A poo poo change, is still a change.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2016 14:45

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

YF-23 posted:

It's not an amazing argument because refugees and immigrants should be welcome regardless of population growth, but you are basically saying that if automation kills off a million jobs then a million people might as well die since they're now useless.

Or we could give them a citizens' dividend now that their work is being done for them. Mass death, basic income, decisions to make.

# ¿ Sep 22, 2016 19:02

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

doverhog posted:

I'm on your side crawler, in principle anyway, but did you just argue against demographic gender imbalance being a problem because Tinder?

If anything, Grindr seems like a better solution.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 09:43

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Being as Russia seems to think that the nations of Europe spend all day broadcasting homosexual propaganda to turn men gay, why don't they actually start doing that. Problem solved.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 12:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Doctor Malaver posted:

I thought the Dutch invented concentration camps in South Africa...

They went in them in South Africa.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2016 18:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

France, stop trying to make French Syria happen, it's not going to happen.

# ¿ Sep 30, 2016 10:46

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Shock as liberal cut, fascist bleeds.

# ¿ Feb 5, 2020 21:20

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

The main reason that the Cameron/Osborne set wanted to stay in was for poo poo like that, but they couldn't say that part out loud.

That's why the case for Remain was so lackluster.

# ¿ Feb 14, 2020 15:44

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure poland is the problem with the EU.

The EU reaction to Poland compared to Portugal is good proof that liberals will tolerate fascists more than socialists though.

Which is why Poland will not be removed from the EU.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2020 12:42

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Cerv posted:

Unlike Portugal which was removed?

Portugal received more EU condemnation for daring to elect a leftist-ish government than Poland did for setting up literal 'LGBT Free Zones'.

So as Portugal was not removed, there's no way that Poland will for their quasi-fascist antics.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2020 13:23

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Either way it's pretty funny that the countries that colonized 3/4 of the planet, stole all their stuff, and attempted to appropriate or erase their religion and culture are also the ones most obsessive about "No you can only call it Dorset Blue Vinny if it's made within Shytesborough, population 10, by a guy named Vincent on a Wednesday while the moon is full, this is vital to our identity."

# ¿ Mar 13, 2020 17:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

It seems a lot like the EU's opposition to GMOs. There's some hosed up practices around gene patents and stuff that should be rightfully opposed, but the solution to that is legislating against gene patents and making a ton of GM stuff public domain/creative commons, not blanket bans.

But the main EU opposition doesn't seem to be because Monsanto are poo poo, but for conspiracy theory reasons and because conservative rural farmers fear and hate anything invented since the 1750s.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2020 13:40

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Also if GMO research were to be directed by public bodies for the common good, rather than paperclip maximizers that only care about the next quarter, research could focus on specific types that reduce pesticide/herbicide use or use less damaging ones, rather than ones that encourage more brand loyalty.

# ¿ Mar 14, 2020 20:49

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Orange Devil posted:

The "natural urbanization process" got started due to peasants being kicked off their land by force through the enclosures.

Very natural enclosures though.

Yeah, the level of malnutrition, vagabondage, and urban deprivation caused by enclosure was massive. Most large towns throughout Europe had to implement emergency social programs (some the best they could manage, others just terrible) because of people being stripped of their right to land.

Also got a bunch of houses built cheap for landlords by desperate people.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2020 20:24

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Even if nobody was relocated following Fukushima then they'd still be healthier than if they lived in London, which keeps being told by the highest courts that they've got illegal levels of air pollution.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 13:20

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

The estimated average loss of life for Fukushima using the J-value method was about 3 months, compared to 4.5 months for living in London and I'd guess similar for Paris.

So either only a small fraction of Fukushima residents needed moving, or London and Paris should be evacuated immediately. It's both.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 13:52

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Fully Automated Luxury Communes.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 16:17

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# ¿ May 11, 2024 05:45

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

I live in a fairly rural area and there's been a definite increase in diversity compared to even a decade ago. The nearest city is highly diverse too though, and a large slice of it is second generation migrants moving out of said city for somewhere more out of the way while renting out the old family home (sometimes to new first generation migrants who they look down on), so many are probably voting for the fiscally lovely parties.

GABA ghoul posted:

nothing but the end of a rifle could ever force me to live in a German village.

Which end? :ussr:

# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 22:00

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