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I'm thinking of going SFF with my next PC, purely because my current ATX tower is massive and I never use more than 1 pcie slot so it seems a huge waste of space. I'm looking at the Nano S, but I haven't seen anyone else in here talk about it. I realise it's large compared to lots of ITX cases, but is that the only reason? I don't need the absolute smallest case on earth, and things like the M1 are out of my budget, so the Nano looks good to me.
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buffbus posted:I almost went with a Nano S but ultimately decided on a Core 500. The main reason was GPU cooling. The Nano S puts half of the GPU about 0.5" from the top of the PSU. That is enough to make my 980ti FTW thermal throttle below its normal boost of 1400mhz. The Node 304 and Core 500 give the GPU lots of fresh air so it's only limited by power delivery. The Nano S was definitely designed with GPU watercooling in mind. This is what I'm a bit worried about, as I have zero interest in water cooling.
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Jun 16, 2016 20:01
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Are there any big positives or negatives for the Nano S vs the Core 500? I'm torn between them and am struggling to decide.
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Jul 14, 2016 22:41
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Rukus posted:It really comes down to component spacing. The Core 500 can fit coolers 170mm in height vs the Nano S' 160mm, but the Core 500 GPU length is 310mm vs 315 from the Nano S. Both can fit 280mm AIO radiators. I'd expect the temperatures for the Core 500 to be slightly better than the Nano S, but the Nano S does feature sound dampening like its bigger brothers. snuff posted:I own the core 500. The nano is a lot bigger, and has a window if that's your thing. I really like that the core 500 has the GPU sucking air directly through the filtered sides. Do note that the PSU has to be I think 160mm max in the core 500. Thanks both. I have no plans for anything other than air cooling. Windows in cases don't bother me either way, and I wouldn't pay extra for one. My psu is 160mm so that's fine. Also, I realise optical drives are dead tech but i still have one so being able to put it in the core is welcome.
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Jul 16, 2016 09:46
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How precise are the case measurements for the Core 500? It says the max gpu length is 310mm and the card I'm eyeing up is 310mm...
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Jul 20, 2016 20:37
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snuff posted:I had a 308mm Sapphire R9 390 in my core 500 and the length was not an issue. Good to know, thanks.
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Jul 22, 2016 14:02
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Before I pull the trigger on a Fractal Core 500 and ASRock Z170m motherboard, are there any new SFF cases and ITX motherboards on the horizon? I'm pretty set on that combo but if there's something else about to come out I'd like to have a look first.
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Aug 26, 2016 12:00
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HalloKitty posted:Mentioned it earlier, the Mini is microATX, just like the older Define Mini, not mini-ITX. For that, there's the Define Nano S already. It'll take mATX and mITX.
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Nov 3, 2016 17:26
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Raijintek has a new ITX case that seems to be decently ITX sized. They called it Metis? Oh dear. I guess outside of SA the name doesn't mean as much.
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Dec 29, 2016 23:59
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Wow, that's incredibly low priced compared to 470s in the UK
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Jan 26, 2017 12:20
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah I almost forgot about the Core V1, here's what I'm looking at so far: Fractal Core 500?
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Mar 9, 2017 08:16
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Cryorig Taku itx case on Kickstarter
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May 29, 2017 14:22
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A couple of years back I was looking at building a pc in a Core 500 but ended up not pulling the trigger. I'm back to thinking about it again and am looking at cases, but it seems the Core 500 still might be the best option? Is that correct? I'm after something small but not necessarily the absolute smallest, and something that's not £200 which sadly rules out the In Win and the DA2 etc. I'm probably going to wait for the Ryzen 3s to drop so there's no rush.
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Jun 8, 2019 18:49
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Llamadeus posted:It's mostly still the same alternatives eg the SG13B or the Cougar QBX, plus cases releasing soon that were shown off at Computex, eg the Silverstone case above or: https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/coolermaster-h100-airflow-case-computex,news-60825.html Thanks. The H100 looks like it might be good if it supports full length GPUs.
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Jun 8, 2019 21:37
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3peat posted:A cool thing you can do with the Core 500 is to use the fan at the back for intake, put a tower cooler on the CPU but reversed, and use two fans at the top for exhaust, which would create a negative pressure airflow that would probably help a lot with GPU temps Does the core suffer with GPU temps then? I don't remember reading about that. The Lian Li TU150 could be interesting if the thermals aren't destroyed by the glass sides. The Evolv Shift Air might be decent too.
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Jun 8, 2019 23:49
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Does anyone know of detailed thermal tests for the QBD or Kaze?
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Jun 9, 2019 10:48
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defaultluser posted:The Core 500's stock 140mm exhaust fan is more than enough to cool a gaming system. Just not anything aggressively overclocked. Thanks for the reply. I'm planning on a 2600 or 2600x once the 3000s drop as hopefully there will be a price reduction so that fits the 6 core restriction. Still waiting for some numbers on the new Lian Li case and possibly the Evolv shift air, although that cant fit a dtx board.
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Jun 23, 2019 14:15
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ughhhh posted:I see alot of very nice sff cases out now, but they all seem to use a sandwich layout. Is there any case that uses a traditional layout so that the following build can fit? Cougar QBX or Kaze? They aren't showing on partpivker so I can't check compatibility but a quick eyeball suggests they might.
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Jul 21, 2019 12:41
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The TU150 has finally appeared on Lian Li's website but still no official release date that I can find.
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Aug 3, 2019 10:03
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Lungboy posted:The TU150 has finally appeared on Lian Li's website but still no official release date that I can find. I emailed Lian Li for info and they actually gave me a straight answer, which was a nice surprise. The TU150 should be released in the UK at the "beginning of October" and will be £105, which is a little more than i'd hoped but if it performs well could be a decent purchase.
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Aug 7, 2019 09:24
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VulgarandStupid posted:How big is the TU150? Looks like it’s around the size of the M1 but wider to fit a 120mm Mount on the back and no way to mount the 240mm rad on the side. 375d X 203w X 312h.
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Aug 12, 2019 07:08
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Does anyone know which AM4 itx boards have a front usb 3.1 gen 2 type c header?
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Aug 25, 2019 19:16
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Koesj posted:For a Dan A4? My B450 Aorus accepts the plug and it’s supposed to work just fine. Haven’t used it yet but that’s what Dan himself says. Lian Li TU150.
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Aug 25, 2019 20:29
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Is there any reason that only one of the itx/dtx x570 boards has appeared yet?
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Sep 5, 2019 21:25
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Beverly Cleavage posted:ASRock and gigabyte both have itx offerings... Gigabyte was the one I knew was out, but UK pcpartpicker doesn't show me any others. Maybe the ASrock range hasn't made it here yet.
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Sep 6, 2019 09:17
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SO DEMANDING posted:I'm just going to get a B450-I. Yeah this seems the most sensible option, other than waiting for a B550 announcement.
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Sep 12, 2019 10:21
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That looks great, and the 3 looks good too if you don't need a full size gpu.
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Oct 25, 2019 12:42
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I don't mind cables sticking out of the top. The 3 would be perfect but that flex psu looks like a deal breaker.
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Oct 26, 2019 15:33
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Don't know about that q50 case but the TU150 seems to run very cool with just a single 120mm fan running as exhaust.
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Nov 2, 2019 12:19
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Node 202 and SG13 would both fit comfortably. Whether they'd fit the hardware you want is a different matter.
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Nov 2, 2019 20:01
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I missed that the Enthoo Evolv Shift Air finally released. Has anyone seen any reviews yet or know if it fixed the overheating issues of the original Shift?
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Nov 29, 2019 00:54
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Supradog posted:I liked the design of the original one, so I've ordered one. I'll report back when I get it set up. Thanks! I would be air cooling it if I got one. Might just plump for a TU150 though, it's pricier but fewer compromises.
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Dec 2, 2019 22:26
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Supradog posted:I liked the design of the original one, so I've ordered one. I'll report back when I get it set up. I found one build video in the Air, but it's not a full review of the case as such.
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Dec 3, 2019 10:31
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That looks really good. Do you have 90 degree connectors to stop the cables sticking out of the top? I really want to see some air cooled results.
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Dec 8, 2019 12:06
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Supradog posted:It's not really needed unless you got really stiff cables or long displayport connectors. You have about 5 cm/2 inches of room. The lid also have a little give in it with that mesh filter on inside. Now you've had it a little while, what do you think? Do you reckon I'd get away with air cooling one, and if so any suggestions for fan setups? I see it comes with 1 140mm and room for 2 more, do you think with all 3 populated it'd be ok?
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Dec 12, 2019 16:30
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Supradog posted:I'd say it depends on the effectiveness of your air cooler + how hot a cpu/gpu you'd run. I've had no issues gaming on it with my setup. Gallery link with full size -> https://imgur.com/a/1B30DrY Awesome, thanks for that. I'm likely to be running a 3600 with stock cooler and a 1660 super or 5700, so nothing too toasty. Ideally I'd imagine a top fan in exhaust would be best but that's not possible so I'd have to play with various set-ups to see what worked best.
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Dec 12, 2019 22:04
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Welsper posted:https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/sv590/ And charged more than twice as much whole making it subjectively uglier. What's up with the Shift Air's internals?
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Welsper posted:A shift Air is slightly larger than an SV590, yet you can't mount anything bigger than a thin 120mm rad in it due to all the places they've interrupted continuous space. Mounting the GPU with fans outward on a shift Air can also be an issue depending on GPU width due to how stingy the riser cable is (unless they've lengthened it from the original shift). Ah right. I'm going to be air cooling so lack of rad support isn't an issue for me. GPU could be a problem but I won't be going for any monster card so hopefully it'll fit. I'll keep scouring the net for reviews too to see what hardware fits ok.
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Supradog posted:I've been looking into gpu card upgrades on my shift air. The card i was looking at is 29.3 x 13 x 5.5cm (xfx DD ultra 5700), which Partpicker says will fit, but your numbers suggest otherwise. Do you think it'll be ok?
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Thanks for that. Is there not enough room with a stock fan where you have the Noctua, or are they the same thickness? It would need 1.5cm extra either by the fan or by the PSU by the look of it.
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