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Dec 10, 2011

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Tekopo posted:

I've backed FUnfair, a game about building a theme park. Rules seem light, there's some variety of setup, might be a bit random depending on cards but I like the art and layout.

Last few days of the kickstarter as well!

This one is going to be on sale at Spiel, I thought.

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Indolent Bastard posted:

From my perspective the fact that war is a path to losing the game since you waste time and resources in combat, yet the big selling point for me was the mechs I passed on the game. Don't show me mechs and then tell me that using them is a bad idea.

War is only a path to losing the game if you wage war unwisely. If you pick your targets well it's a big source of points. The real fun comes when you're using workers as meat shields to discourage attack, because that is how you make people lose through their own aggression.

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Dec 10, 2011

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cyberia posted:

Well we can always talk about Mayday Games new project: H.I.D.E., which is a dice-based deduction and bluffing game.

I'm absolutely certain that I've played that game before.

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Dec 10, 2011

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cyberia posted:

It was originally published as a Korean game. The kickstarter is to release a second, English-language, edition.

Then my advice is not to back it, because it's dull.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Bieeardo posted:

I think I'm going to write off my Multiuniversum pledge. Turns out they rolled their own pledge manager and it's only partially translated, incomplete, and buggy. My pledge is apparently in the system, but the storefront doesn't display it. They're trying to help, but turnaround on e-mail responses is slow enough that I've still been surprised to get them.

Eh, it was twenty bucks. I've spent more on worse experiences.

They're selling the game at retail as of next week. I dropped it from my Spiel watch list because it looks crap.

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Dec 10, 2011

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HidaO-Win posted:

Speaking of Spiel, is there a Spiel thread or meetup for Essen?

We sort of plan one. I'll fire up last year's thread so we can make more formal designs.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Crossover from the Trad Games thread, as someone was asking about it: Spiel Meet Thread

Reusing the old thread as it has useful information like "Where is the Atrium?"

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Dec 10, 2011

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

If it makes you feel any better, a large portion of these backers will never, ever, ever back another non-Oatmeal board game so none of this is being stole from a more "worthy" products. Small consolation, I know.

On the subject of worthy products, LudiCreations had their cashbox stolen at Spiel. Their response: to immediately create a microgame based on the event and put it on Kickstarter. Cost is $5, or effectively free if you pledge to buy one of their other micro/minigames.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Chariot Race was on sale at Spiel in multiple languages including English, so I have no idea why EGG are Kickstarting it now.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Det_no posted:

Is there a thread about this game? Or is it too "ew boobs!" for this place? News of the failed cancelled expansion made me look into it and it looks sweet but can't seem to find a thread.

Just so you know, one of the minis for Kingdom Death includes a woman's decapitated body being used as furniture. Goreans think it's demeaning to women.

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Dec 10, 2011

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A game that is not dogshit and will be delivered on time.

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Dec 10, 2011

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LordAba posted:

If someone put "Eurogame" in the dictionary I imagine the picture next to it would look something like this.

I wish. Since Vital Lacerda began working with Ian O'Toole as regular illustrator his games have looked amazing.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Zanzibar Ham posted:

Lots of minis=lots of money

Also catastrophic stupidity on the part of everyone who backed it. It's been less than a month since the project runners announced that the expansion comprising something like 25% of the first project's money was cancelled without refunds, then they proceeded to name every pledge level in the new project after the cancelled expansion. Nobody backing that POS is going to get what they paid for.

Incidentally, someone ran the numbers and all the high-end completist levels require a pledge of sometimes up to twice what the rewards are worth. I think at last count the $1666 level would cost something like $900 if you pledged $1 and bought it all as add-ons.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Wezlar posted:

Is there a link to this? Just curious about the numbers.

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1678957/includes-update-5-1666-pledge-current-value-1320-9

They're keeping a running tally. $1666 is now up to $1320, but the others are still poo poo.

Apologies for misreporting on the refund, I had heard there hadn't been one.

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Dec 10, 2011

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MrFlibble posted:

It ends in 2017 though, and that's when Donald Trump becomes the U.S president. Seems to be an ideal time to back a lovely objectifying titty miniatures game :science: .

But it doesn't deliver fully until 2020, by which time the world will have been destroyed.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Jesus Christ, Kingdom Rape: Titty Minis finished at $12.4m. Highest backed gaming Kickstarter by 50% even including Exploding Kittens, more than double the funding of Dark Souls.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Foglet posted:

That's their second attempt after a previous Elite Dangerous tabletop RPG (Elite Encounters, kickstarted in February 2013 and planned for delivery in April 2014) which got stuck in development hell.

Better luck this time, I guess. Though their team does not seem to have much to boast in terms of designing tabletop RPGs.

Or common sense, given that production costs were listed as a stretch goal.

For those who didn't follow the original Elite Dangerous project - the top level gave you a creative licence to publish an original work of fiction set in the Elite universe. A number of these levels were themselves funded by Kickstarter projects. This person wants to buy a creative licence - or already did - and use it to make an Elite RPG. But, the original project goal only paid for the licence. Anything that backers would receive from it was extra.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Haystack posted:

Nope, brand new. It's set in Glorantha's Prax region (ie Mad Max with livestock). Cute art, fun flavor, fairly simple mechanics, appropriatly low price.

The art on that one boggles me. "From the guy who did the incredibly elegant and functional designs of The Gallerist and Vinhos and the lovely styling of the upcoming Lisboa - fantasy doodles!"

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Dec 10, 2011

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Giochi become the latest company to attempt a mega-boardgame. 90 EUR gets you the base game with cardboard bits. 200 EUR gets you the deluxe version with metal coins and almost 600 minis. And for a mere 370 EUR you can expand it up to 9 players with 275 metal coins and a minis count pushing 800. It's the first kickstarter I've seen where you can pay in installments.

The amount of playtesting they're claiming is kind of absurd. Apparently the designer had the idea for the game when he was 16 and there's been a playable prototype in testing since 2000.

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Dec 10, 2011

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That Old Tree posted:

It's Europa Universalis: the Board Game, except he claims to have been working on it since 1989. What a coincidence with the name thing!

The name changed, as did the theme; it was originally "Risk with extra bits and house rules" and called Mesciot. It only got the mediaeval theme when it was turned into its own game in 2000.

Sigma-X posted:

Where are you seeing that you can pay in installments?

Giochix have their own crowdfunding platform where they consolidate direct backing and that from KS and the German platform Spieleschmiede. They charge everyone the same and eat the KS fees, and I've backed their projects before and they've never failed to deliver.

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Dec 10, 2011

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GrandpaPants posted:

I didn't look at how much the coins were, but here are the Fief coins for $25 + shipping presumably:
https://academygames.com/games/product/cid-137

The coins aren't available separately, they're purely part of the deluxe edition that will probably never see daylight outside this KS. Just as well the Fief coins are really nice.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Mr.Misfit posted:

In theory, at least according to its writer, its constantly at "almost done, only THIS little tidbit is missing!" wich we can translate to 0.99.
Therefore the timespan since the end of the Kickstarter campaign amounts to 0.99 FAR WESTs. This means that we have a recognizable, if somewhat unstable length of time with which we can measure other Kickstarters. Of course, anything that goes beyond 0.1 is bad, anything that actually released is unusable since it exceeds the scale due to being never =1 (Since the max amount of FAR WEST that can exist is 0.99) etc....

But its not useless ;)
Silly perhaps.

GMS is performing a public service, he's resolving Zeno's Paradox.

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Dec 10, 2011

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I think Gamelyn just thought minis were easier than they are, and also misjudged their audience. I suspect the relaunch will have standees as the default option.

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Dec 10, 2011

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JazzFlight posted:

Nope, the re-launch announcement FAQ said they're getting rid of the Standee version because it doesn't suit their vision for the game.

Jesus, that's dumb. Doubly so for a game which is basically Big Epic Kingdoms, produced by a company whose established fanbase wants cheap games that fit in a coat pocket.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Sigma-X posted:

I'm hoping that this is all their own seed money and that it being tied up for a month unsuccessfully leaves them in even more financial duress than they are currently, obviously in with their "nomadic lifestyle"

Kickstarter pledges aren't drawn until the project succeeds.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

:nws: If your boss doesn't like fantasy lesbian kissing pictures badly traced softcore porno. :shrug:

Fixed for you. I'm guessing the hand is hosed up because he had to trace around the genitalia in it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Evil Mastermind posted:

The Fate Core KS just sent out the final version of Dresden Files Accelerated, leaving only Shadow of the Century to be delivered.

So since 2013, they've delivered 11 books (half of which are complete RPGs) plus assorted knick-knacks like dice, the Deck of Fate, and digital goodies. That's on top of the Patreon, of course.

This is the only RPG Kickstarter I ever backed - I don't role play much any more - and I'm glad for this update because I lost the original link without ever downloading it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Scott Lynch comes out of the RPG community. He's a friend of the people who did the famous FATAL review. Nice to see he hasn't forgotten his roots.

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Dec 10, 2011

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The_Doctor posted:

I've had a bit of a look, and surprisingly, the only air cargo island hopping game I can find is called Air Charter, and it's from ~1970. You'd have thought that was a theme rife for exploitation.

Academy Games had something air related at Spiel, but damned if I can remember the name of it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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GrandpaPants posted:

Does anyone know if Blood Rage (or any CMON game like that I guess) sold well in stores? I mean like, relative to other games I guess, but it had a fair amount of hype behind it.

It sold reasonably well, but people were seriously pissed about missing the exclusive content which a lot of backers flipped for more than they pledged. Same goes for Dogs of War, which had four exclusive captains. I paid $73 for an EB pledge. I could flip it now for $200.

The worst offender, though, was Xenoshyft: Onslaught. That one included an important play mechanic as a KS exclusive.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Apart from the lack of exasperated emphasis, a fairly accurate assessment.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Mojo Jojo posted:

Just a reprint? Or an expansion.

Tell me more i was looking for an economic game and i didn't realise there was one based in Lancashire!

Reprint, but they're also doing Brass: Birmingham.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Bargain Quest! A Fast and Fun Item Shop Board Game! looks like a board game version of Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale on the PC. BQ is a game for 2-4 players where you're trying to make the most money for your shop while also saving the town. Each round has you draft cards for your store shelves and place one at your display to entice the heroes to come to your shop and buy other things (that one is not for sale). Those heroes battle the monsters and if they slay it with your stuff, you get points. It's being made by siblings Johnathan and Victoria Ying. Johnathan has made a few big board games, like the recent DOOM, while Victoria is a visual development artist for Disney. The art looks really neat, plus I like how there's racial variety on the heroes shown. $30 for the regular game seems nice, but the $60 for the Deluxe is kinda a huge jump. Not to mention those higher $ tiers.

The higher tiers are restricted to two of each and are vanity rewards that have you personally inserted into the game. They're not worth mentioning in a cost analysis.

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Dec 10, 2011

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And by gum, it's lovely.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Mojo Jojo posted:

I'm disappointed that they aren't launching Birmingham as an expansion. The redundancy makes it a little pricey

I'm sure it would go down well if they put a sticker on the box saying "This is not a complete game! You will need a punchboard's worth of tiles and a few player discs from BRASS to play!"

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Dec 10, 2011

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Mojo Jojo posted:

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of expansions or ...?

I know this is sarcasm, but expansions don't typically replace 80% of the original game's components and then add more on top. The amount of new stuff in Brass: Birmingham is probably cost equivalent to making a new game anyway, so may as well add the extra punchboard and have it stand alone.

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Dec 10, 2011

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GrandpaPants posted:

Morels is getting an expansion: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1058482509/morels-foray-the-morels-expansion

It is a pretty good 2p game, although I don't play it often because I have a glut of 2p games that I would play over it. But I have heard it is a good game to play with nongamers.

Then you'll want the expansion, because it raises the count to four players.

Re: dice placement games - Praetor is pretty good, if you can find it.

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Dec 10, 2011

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Kai Tave posted:

Right, which is a really bad fuckin sign right there. "We're gonna take this property that's all about using player skill to overcome seemingly insurmountable odds, but we only really know how to make games using dice so, uhhhhhh, hey have you looked at our cool minis yet?" I mean yeah, books and covers and all, but I was never able to escape the impression that Dark Souls was yet another licensed Kickstarter boardgame.

It's worse than that. The bosses are built around a deck of cards that is meant to be memorised so players can use the appropriate counters. But then the resolution of the counters is random, so you can pick the right move every time and still lose. Which means that after the first game, it's basically $300 for "roll a bunch of dice and consult this chart to see if you win".

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Dec 10, 2011

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TacoNight posted:

Also as a pitch, they avoid lots of annoying kickstarter behaviors: they have no ks exclusives, the price + shipping = msrp ($25), and none of the main game are hidden behind stretch goals. The downside is they only have reasonable shipping prices for US.

They also got ripped into for loving EU backers with VAT and customs charges because Asmadi couldn't be bothered arranging an EU distributor and Chris Cieslik's initial response to complaints amounted to "let them eat cake". They have since sorted this, but it left a bad taste and there's no way they deserve credit for "avoiding bad behaviour".

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Dec 10, 2011

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Agent Rush posted:

Has anyone looked into Petrichor? It certainly sounds interesting especially with that quote about Dominant Species, but I'm not sure whether to get this or just grab DS instead.

Also, are there any reviewers you'd recommend regarding Brass?

Petrichor is from the maker of Anachrony, if anyone is curious.

Regarding Brass: being a re-release there are already a ton of reviews on BGG that will give you a feel for it. Heavy Cardboard did a full video playthrough as part of the KS campaign.

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