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lol at the UK. Thanks for the great buying day I guess, can't wait to watch them implode.Germstore posted:may be shocking to you, but not every southerner owned a plantation. No but you don't need a plantation to own slaves. Most slave owning was done by smaller farms that owned 1-3 slaves and an overwhelming amount of the production coming out of the South was based on slave labor.
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Armchair Calvinist posted:made this This is great.
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Jun 24, 2016 18:46
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Jul 1, 2016 22:42
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ITT a bunch of brexit brits try to claim they aren't racist, even though the only real tangible bit of the 'leave' campaign's promises is now 'we're gonna close the borders' sure you're not racist, you're just xenophobic morons
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Jul 2, 2016 17:53
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global capital doesn't give a poo poo, they had their gasp and then poo poo was business as usual again by tuesday the UK is still hosed, because in the interim at least 2 years before they negotiate anything with the EU and get things situated they are going to see a massive drop off in investment because no one wants to do poo poo while things are in the air then you better hope that a decent deal gets negotiated and the EU doesn't just bend you over the table
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Jul 2, 2016 17:54
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Rutibex posted:the UK wasn't "fine" when it joined the EU. it was flattened by terror bombing and on the doorstep of of the Red Menace bruh when do you think the EU was formed exactly? Saint Isaias Boner posted:you know literally nothing about this or anything much else i know you're a poopy butt
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Jul 2, 2016 21:27
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Usually, when talking about an election, a 'mandate' does not mean simply 'winning.' Usually, it means landslide. So like when the US President has a 'mandate' it's when he trounced his opponent in the general and Congress better play ball with him because the public has loudly spoken. carry on with your retarded poo poo now folks
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Jul 3, 2016 19:57
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kikkelivelho posted:The representative who called for the referendum was voted in by the people who then resigned immediately it is worth pointing out
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Jul 3, 2016 20:18
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the UK made its bed and now it has to lie in it, no taksie backsies but you did all gently caress yourselves hardcore and it's gonna be a miserable couple years for you RobattoJesus posted:from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_%28politics%29 I understand that but don't pretend like 'mandate' doesn't have a specific vernacular usage when you're talking about 'degree by which the vote was won.' Look 2 lines lower from that same link: quote:Elections, especially ones with a large margin of victory, are often said to give the newly elected government or elected official an implicit mandate to put into effect certain policies.[2] Everyone knows when you say 'mandate' you mean 'large margin of victory' 90% of the time so idk why the whole thread has collectively forgotten that to argue with each other about it. the leavers won, get over it. no they don't have a clear mandate, but too bad that's how democracy works sometimes. if the simple majority vote is an issue now, it should have been an issue beforehand but both sides thought they'd win so they didn't say peep about it.
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Jul 3, 2016 20:23
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i just mostly think it is silly that now that the election is over everyone is nitpicking the methodology like gently caress you rear end in a top hat if it really was an issue you would have brought this up BEFORE the vote but you didn't because you thought you'd win and now it's only a problem because you lost
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Jul 3, 2016 20:40
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cool and good posted:how closely did you follow the referendum before it happened? yeah im sure someone somewhere was saying that before the vote but the fact is there weren't mass protests about the methodology in front of the parliament building either motherfucker
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Jul 3, 2016 22:17
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we should just reboot and do anarchy again and let things shake out naturally yeah it'll suck for humans for a few hundred years maybe but we might come out with something better on the other side
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Jul 3, 2016 22:33
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Prorat posted:Umm if Texas seceded they would make the murder of Mexicans legal and for money/sport, so no the cartels wouldn't have a chance. pretty sure the cartels would roll right over some pudgy texans
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Jul 5, 2016 18:24
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cock hero flux posted:it's great that somehow all of the internet socialists are now yelling about how much they hate the poor and democracy and love the stock market and free trade agreements who the gently caress are you talking about? not me 
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Jul 7, 2016 23:07
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The USA already owns Canada pretty much. They are the definition of a client state. Don't believe me? look up our treaties. NAFTA has shafted them so loving hard lmao and that's just that one trade agreement. Yeah you still shuffle your government around and yeah you 'own' your land but Canada is very firmly under the economic dominion of the USA. At some point very soon they'll have to export water/oil to us that they really don't want to because of that, among other crap they've already had to take. Does the UK really want that? Cuz for real we'll take all your oil for cheap and give you almost nothing in return. Basically what you guys do to the Scots now but nation wide. Then we'll sue your government anytime it tries to pass a law that would 'negatively impact' a US company, and we'll win, too. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jul 11, 2016 |
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Jul 11, 2016 21:10
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Ork of Fiction posted:I mean, when the US Gov bailed out the banks, they acted like they owned them, and as a result passed a bunch of laws that make it so banks can do whatever and make hella money, so I don't see the downside here? Oh see that's a simple misconception: the US government did the bail out and then passed all those laws and repealed regulations because the banks own the government not the other way around.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:12
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City of Tampa posted:how does this work though because now we're weeks away from the brexit vote and I keep hearing this but nobody can explain why except "bankers are really mad" and "my international vacations and foreign investment properties will be more difficult/expensive to manage" Idk about all that other stuff but a few real estate funds based in the UK have already halted trading and have started liquidating assets because so many investors are trying to cash out.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:13
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jBrereton posted:*in idiot who has never sold any property voice* "Why can't you get 100% of the spuriously claimed value of your portfolio right this instant, gently caress" Pretty much. London's economy is heavily dependent on real estate and finance though.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:29
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Yeah the 2008 housing crisis went real well for the USA's poor people.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:36
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RobattoJesus posted:Yeah the sky was falling and then house prices dropped a bit and then house prices just sky rocketed to gently caress anyway because we're all just being manipulated by a bunch of assholes so they can short a bunch of crap and get even richer. Yeah the global economy didn't crash or anything resulting in the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs and an economic depression we are still recovering from. I mean you're not wrong about rich rear end in a top hat manipulators getting richer from shorting poo poo but still.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:54
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RobattoJesus posted:To be fair the entire system needs a good smashing but every time anyone attempts to smash it all the people who go on about smashing the system go nuts about how loving dumb it is to gently caress with capitalism like some kind of class warfare uncle toms. Yeah there's some truth to that. The economy is cyclical but ideally in a healthy capitalist economy the cycles are not so exaggerated though.
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Jul 11, 2016 22:59
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It's actually a really interesting point that you see a lot in history after revolutions. Once you start actually dicking with the capitalist mechanisms poo poo goes south real quick and everyone quickly turns on you and goes 'wtf man.' I think the left's biggest issue really is that they have nothing to replace what they decry. Yeah poo poo is hosed but it's easy to say poo poo is hosed - what do you replace it with? What happens the morning after the revolution?
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Jul 11, 2016 23:00
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I think you're actually simplifying what leftists say which is not that ALL finance stuff is evil but rather that they are not regulated well and 'too big to fail' is some bullshit and there's no reason they should have so much undue influence over the political process. Nonetheless obviously a reasonable person knows that when capital flows efficiently it is advantageous to economic growth and Wall St's function essentially is to keep investment/capital flowing efficiently. Obviously it's not a binary evil/good thing. Plus there is a difference between orderly gradual reform and what the UK is doing which is throwing the baby out with the bath water and having investment funds grind to a halt because of panicked investors pulling out. I mean yeah you can find some extremist 'full marxism now burn it all down' rear end in a top hat I'm sure but they don't represent the majority of leftists.
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Jul 12, 2016 18:08
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satanic splash-back posted:im an american posting constantly about my bad opinions regarding poo poo that will never affect me. i constantly refer to my own experiences in california as the only truth. keep telling yourself that as your glorious empire continues its decades long decline into obscurity and irrelevance
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Jul 12, 2016 20:57
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Rees-Mogg sounds like an orc out of my Warhammer Total War game.
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Jul 12, 2016 22:14
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Decebal posted:Just close the stock when something like this is about to happen. Don't governments do that sometimes ? "Sorry guys, no trading today. Yes, you'll have to piss your pants at home instead" Yeah there's trading halts but you wanna be careful about how often you throw them out there because if investor confidence in your market tanks (which it will if you are having to manipulate the market a lot) then as soon as the trading halt is over they'll just all sell off anyway. Or you could be China and just straight publish a list of tickers that you can buy but not sell (if you are a big investor with millions not some random citizen with $20k). It's true that it delays the inevitable but it's also true that sometimes people need to step back and take a deep breath (which is why the trading halt exists as a tool to be used sparingly).
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Jul 13, 2016 19:12
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The Queen of England is still technically the head of state for both Canada and Australia which makes them both a nation of cuckqueans.
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Decebal posted:Also is the Queen still the "Pope" of the Anglican Church like Henry VIII ? Could she just decide on religious dogma and all those priests will have to obey ? I think that's the Archbishop of Canturbery corn in the bible posted:she is the head of the anglican church in the same way she is the head of the british government oh does she also collect incomes from religious tithing and have undue influence on church dogma as well? hosed up imo e: lol jesus she really is the 'Supreme Governor of the CoE' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Governor_of_the_Church_of_England wtf quote:The Supreme Governor formally appoints high-ranking members of the church on the advice of the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, who is in turn advised by church leaders.[1] hahahahahahaha your loving PM is advised by church leaders she appoints what in the actual gently caress UK Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jul 13, 2016 |
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So, to recap, the royal family: - collects rent from crown lands and takes a large chunk of them for their own before passing on the rest to the UK (about $170m) a year - collects a sovereign grant to the tune of $40m pounds - requires security and other miscellaneous expenses to be paid for by local governments to the tune of $200-300m pounds a year (London Metro alone pays $100m/yr just to protect 21 royals including the queen) - has lobbying influence over your parliament - is the leader of the church of england, and as such enjoys the privilege of appointing church leaders with the only check (as far as I can tell) being the PM going 'no please don't' which she can just dgaf about. those church leaders also have influence over parliament - makes up for all this by boosting tourism Am I missing something?
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ANIME IS BLOOD posted:sounds good to me, I'm fine with Britain having them they can have their royals, but I'ma make fun of them is all euros poo poo talk the USA all the time turnabout is fair play Rutibex posted:you forgot that she gets to appoint peers to the house of lords lol
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guns are grim death made steel and fire in a package comfortable enough to fit in your hand the queen......... the queen?
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Rutibex posted:the whole love of guns and personal arms thing was part of the british national identity too, up until about WW1. where do you think the americans got it from? god created men but sam colt made them equal
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Jul 13, 2016 22:33
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RobattoJesus posted:I like how Britain had ww1 against a foreign threat and said yeah guns loving suck, the US killed like an entire generation of its own men in a war with itself and thinks guns are loving awesome. lol quote:british royalty killed like 10 generations of its own people fighting meaningless petty wars and everyone still thinks the queen is loving awesome
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ElGroucho posted:Hmm, yes, this seems like a normal and dignified thing for a head of state to do kneel or you will be knelt 
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Jul 13, 2016 22:56
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Drunk & Ugly posted:get this, there's this thing over here called lease-hold, which is like most of the flats you can buy in the city of london for example, and in 70 years or so its up and the property goes back to the original owner. ... whose g.g-dad was probably the owner of some land after he cut off some guys head on his horse, and produced the money for the property that will stay forever in their dainty hands you know this is kinda like reading /r/relationships where I go 'jesus christ have some loving self respect man' but on a nation-state level the gently caress is wrong with you people over there why is that even still a thing that exists?
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Jul 14, 2016 16:23
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plain blue jacket posted:It's really important I am allowed to have my assault rifle, it keeps the government aware that we the citizens simply can't be hemophilia posted:The american military is so famous at handling insurgent guerillas that we have 50 solid years of smashing insurgencies every where we have invaded. Yeah we're real good at killing traditional style armies but lol if you think the US military is going to be competently putting down a US revolt for that matter lol if you think the military would just be 100% on board with red misting US civilians and that there wouldn't be split factions in the military itself. when the French Revolution was happening the military mostly sat back and waited to see what would happen. Hell half the French Guard in the city sided with the revolutionaries when they stormed the Bastille. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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City of Tampa posted:actually they would, some single-digit percentage of the military would refuse Idk I seriously doubt that City of Tampa posted:they are programmed to follow orders and never question them. Most servicemen I've talked to would disagree with you there
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I mean sure if it was localized but at some point I feel like the Navy isn't going to be doing strafing runs in downtown San Diego while a quarter of the population is revolting in the streets.corn in the bible posted:i'm glad that servicemen won't kill any americans, that's why the branch davidians are still around see you guys always do this and give me examples of americans who have been killed. it's not the same man I'm talking about an actual revolt where 20-25% of the population is in the streets. it'd be more accurate to compare it to widespread race riots in the 90s than 1 instance where citizens were killed by authorities. just look at history, domestic armies are not super gung ho going to slaughter their own people. maybe at first but they quickly splinter into factions and infighting. that's why the romans used legions non-native to the province that they needed to suppress. They didn't send Iberians to put down Iberians, they sent Greeks or whatever. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jul 14, 2016 |
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the average fat schlub isn't going to be revolting anyway. typically only 20-30% of the population needs to be pissed to make a revolt happen.
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Goodpancakes posted:Yeah, this is sort of the point. You'll do more for a revolt by being able to frame and push a narrative with social media then you ever would with small arms ownership. Your hunting rifle isn't going to be doing much good against drones and tanks. the point of guerilla warfare is not to be victorious, it's to make the occupier bleed until occupation is no longer sustainable no poo poo my small arm rifle is no good against a tank but the point is to make the enemy fearful every time they go out on patrol because someone might take potshots at them or they might stumble across a home made explosive no one in the ME is doing much good against drones and US tanks either but that didn't stop public opinion here from turning against the war and demanding we pull out.
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