FilthyImp posted:

Actually Voyager is very progressive. It shows us that alien blacktinas, negroid Vulcans, cat pedophiles, autistic robochicks, holohumans, space Indians and Harry KIm can all become boring, bland honkeys.

If that isn't utopian and a fulfillment of MLKjr's vision, then I don't know what is mate.

Also the best Trek was the Futurama tribute episode.
"Fascinating, Captain. And logical also"

Cythereal posted:

Well, the changes in the timeline had to have happened long before the Kelvin/Narada incident. If Kirk's dad was serving in Starfleet, the timelines were already different.

Gammatron 64 posted:

That, or you could just say he's going to blow up a planet that we already know about and\or care about. Maybe not Earth, but something like Vulcan, Betazed, even Qo'noS. Something. Or something like "if this planet blows up, it will destabilize the region and maybe start a galactic war or some other very bad thing." The movie has pretty much no stakes whatsoever. As a member of the audience, I have to say "what are they even fighting for?"

Delsaber posted:

Weird but alien is something I hope the new series isn't afraid to do with their races, assuming they have the budget for it.

Both visually and conceptually I think my ideal alien style would be somewhere between Farscape and a bunch of old sci-fi games like Star Control 2 and Master of Orion, updated for 2017, but retaining the eccentricities.

MikeJF posted:

Potplant on a roomba, got it.

Rhyno posted:

Holy poo poo, fold down breast flap???

MikeJF posted:

I want a Trek where Deck 9 section 3 is vapour sulphuric acid atmosphere and section 5 is 400 degrees and deck 10 and 11 starboard are entirely submerged and etc

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Speaking of Romulans, I loving love TNG-era warbirds. They might be my favorite spaceship in anything.

Subyng posted:

The way I see it warp is just the method of propulsion. So you can go to warp at the speed of walking.

MikeJF posted:

Baronjutter posted:

Hi co-stars sadly aren't posting in this thread, I was hoping for some good "shatner is an rear end in a top hat" anecdotes people know.
I'd also love some "crazy gene" stories if possible! I know he was quite the womanizer and horn dog but that' about it.

The_Doctor posted:

In Starfleet, shipboard offences are considered especially heinous. In the United Federation of Planets, the dedicated crew who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Starship Victims Unit. These are their voyages.

BattleMaster posted:

I hated the first TNG uniforms anyway; something about the lack of a defined collar just makes them look like tight potato sacks.

Mogomra posted:

In the future, civilization has evolved beyond petty neck opinions.

Baronjutter posted:

Speaking of clothing, the costumes in trek are often pretty bad. Gene had some wierd ideas that pockets were somehow something that would be totally obsolete in his advanced utopia. Pockets are for THINGS and we've evolved past the need for things. Certainly no one has any need to carry around tools or bits of technology with them.

I think the first pocket on a federation uniform we saw were the cadet cargo pants in ds9?

Nessus posted:

I remember this came up in the Romulan Way, too, but it was like a description of telepathic networks which was just really obviously analogous to BBSes if you knew what a BBS or Usenet was. Which, at the time that she wrote, might not have been very common knowledge, and is once again perhaps rarer than it used to be.

A planet where people can shitpost with their minds! No wonder Vulcan needed Surak.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I like the reading that Jules was normal, but his dad just couldn't accept that at all and built this narrative of his son being retarded to justify his actions.

Paradoxish posted:

Coincidentally, SG-1 is another show that had end-of-life ratings that a lot of shows would kill for nowadays.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I'm not sure Data becoming some post-"human" consciousness merged with the Enterprise's main computer is entirely appropriate, given that whole "I wish to be human" phase he had for his entire life.

Nessus posted:

My interpretation of this stuff is that the entire cast are animated heavily by their anti-space-Chinese racism to the point of specifically seeking out the one neurotic white Englishman on the Triad Shipping Container Planet.

nerdman42 posted:

Having seen only about half of both shows, what's generally considered more "anti" Star Trek: Farscape or Babylon 5

Powered Descent posted:

Good catch, can't believe I forgot about Little Green Men.

Also, I think they did a World War II thing in one of the big chunks of Enterprise I didn't watch, but for all I know that was like a parallel universe or an alien holodeck or something and doesn't count.

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I sincerely hope you're joking.

Cat Machine posted:

Ehhhh TNG Keiko is definitely a rote nagging wife archetype but she's pretty chill and cool in DS9, right?? Plus O'Brien seems like the kind of guy who needs a challenging wife

After The War posted:

I guess the day job is starting to wear off on me. I work for a group that represents folks who use hearing aids, cochlear implants, and other assistive devices, and Geordi presents a kind of visibility (no pun intended) that you don't see anywhere else. The thought of even one kid feeling less ashamed about their hearing aid (or whatever) because of Geordi's VISOR is pretty .

Why cookie Rocket posted:

Every episode would be 90% "my ruby quartz lenses contain my optic blasts" speeches, but about brain medicine(s). Sounds like a hoot.