USPOL August: Quoth The Donald, "Arzy more."

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Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

The main thing that finally sunk in for me this last week or so is that Trump's supporters will be his supporters until the day they die and absolutely nothing can change that, but that that doesn't matter since neither are they numerous enough or in the right positions to win the election. They can be completely ignored and cut out of the equation entirely.

The only question is whether his antics will earn him any new supporters and the answer is no.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Aug 1, 2016

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 10:34

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:05

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

iospace posted:

Speaking of Khans:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/760092756668735488

Trump won't let it go though.

Great...Trump will interpret that as him winning since that's what children do.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 14:17

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

I didn't fully anticipate how badly Khan speaking at the DNC would screw Trump but I should have. It's been nonstop own-goals since then.

Also who decided that "gold star parents" was a thing to call people like him? Has that term been in use a lot longer than the "you get a gold star lol" sarcastic meaning I grew up with?

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 23:51

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Raenir Salazar posted:

This thread is really hard to keep up with at times.

Every day I wake up and skip past the 800 posts that happened while I was asleep and then just follow it from there.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 00:14

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Have there been any recent surveys of Trump supporters that show how many of them like him personally/hate Hillary/would vote Republican even if their candidate was a gay Muslim Mexican welfare queen?

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 02:37

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Luna Was Here posted:

What is it with him and the word good? Like, has he ever heard of a synonym or something ?????

Months ago there was the argument that he was deliberately keeping the reading level of his speaking down to about a third grade level. Is that argument still a thing?

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 08:24

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

FCKGW posted:

Our local GOP tweeted out an image saying they'd like to hang Hillary.

That image looks ganked from a video game or something.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 08:36

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Paradoxish posted:

Republicans distancing themselves from Trump while yelling "not my Republican party!" bother me on a really base level. Like, gently caress you, assholes. You created this monster, and a ton of you are going to walk away from this disaster unscathed because there are plenty of voters who don't want to believe that this is their fault.

Once he loses a bunch of them are gonna be like "I'm glad that's over!" and think they can get back to business as usual. The business of creating the next Trump.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 23:19

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Seeric posted:

In short, the main lesson the Republican party is likely going to take from all of this is a lesson in how to change around their primary so that the winner is at worst only their standard brand of awful and not Trump's special extra-strong brand of awfulness. If they somehow manage to pull out another Trump after that, that's when we'll likely actually see some big shifts in the party's platform.

Other than not having shitheads as their most dedicated members, how would they accomplish this?

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 00:16

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

site posted:

I'm waiting till it starts reading "Trump lies about"

This reminds me of something I noticed back in the Birther days, the BBC didn't say "Obama was called a Muslim, which he denies..." but rather "Obama, who is wrongly believed to be a Muslim...".

At the time I was surprised that they didn't use any of the usual softening language for the news.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 00:47

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

emdash posted:

http://observer.com/2016/08/no-doubt-president-obama-is-a-muslim-donald-trumps-new-york-campaign-chair-says/

Trump's NY campaign chair declares "there is no doubt in the mind of the average American that Obama is a Muslim"

If you're going to use idiotic propaganda to get ahead make sure your own people don't believe it dumbass. It's like running a drug business but your dealers are all users.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 04:28

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

jaete posted:

Trump quotes make a lot more sense when you imagine Zapp Brannigan saying them.

I wonder if Trump supporters think Zapp is the cool and good protagonist of Futurama?

# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 11:42

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

bowser posted:

How long into President Hillary's term before the Republicans try to impeach her? You know they're already plotting it.

I assume they will put in the paperwork the very day she is sworn in. I'm not even kidding.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 15:05

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Geostomp posted:

Are they that desperate? All their "scandals" failed, so falling is all they have?

Hillary has been really quiet since the convention so what else are they going to do?

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 00:15

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Goatman Sacks posted:

She did an interview with Chris Wallace right after the convention where she tried to nuance the fact that Comey testified that she was truthful in her FBI interviews into "I didn't lie about the emails", and it didn't work out too hot.

Oh yeah, I guess there is that, but it was immediately overshadowed by Trump's buffoonery. He's so good at that.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 00:37

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Antti posted:

From July 25th:

Let this be a lesson for future generations.

The only lesson I'm getting from this election is that an ignorant blowhard rear end in a top hat virtuoso like Trump can still get like 30-40% of the country behind him. I'm never going to look at the average guy on the street in America the same way again.

# ¿ Aug 8, 2016 12:31

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

If every bullet you fire, even straight up, has a nonzero chance of hurting someone or breaking something, wouldn't a warning shot be a bad idea?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 07:53

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Arrgytehpirate posted:

My dream is for Trump to sub 100 electoral votes.

Concerning this, is there any value for the Clinton campaign to go for a 50 state plan and just crush Trump, or will they just play to win?

# ¿ Aug 9, 2016 23:25

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Spiritus Nox posted:

Hillary might kick his rear end. If not, the secret service most certainly will. Probably ends Trump's campaign then and there - his base will love it, but we know they can't win the election on their own and he's absolutely not saving face with anyone else if he raises his hand to Hillary.

Trump might be a great fighter; his tiny hands could be hard to track visually and able get right between the smallest gaps in his opponent's defense.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 02:02

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

hallebarrysoetoro posted:

I was having a pretty bad week so far but hearing Trump call for Hillary's death and then trying to walk it back kind of cheered me up, and it ain't even Wednesday yet.

Wait he has tried to walk it back? Or just his damage control people who have the most thankless job in human history?

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 02:04

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

You could probably still write a speech rescinding Trump and retain some dignity by also scheduling it as a mea culpa of sorts. I don't think there's a "leader" in the GOP with the stones at this point.

The only kind of thing like that I would accept and think they were an ok would be "At first I thought he was just a temporary aberration but now I came to realize that he is the true face of the GOP and I'm out".

But nooooo, so far all the letters and stuff have been "My party is a force for good in the world and Donald is wrecking it for no reason!"

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 02:23

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Seeric posted:

Actually, I'm pretty curious as to how all the things Trump has already said tend to hold up in translation. Are there any multilingual people in this thread who would be willing to track down a translation of one of Trump's trademark run-on sentences (ex: that one about nuclear power from earlier) and point out any notable ways (if any) in which the content/context of the translation varies from the English version?

I read about his comments in Japanese news sometimes and I don't think there's anything of note about the translation other than that they translate him speaking very casually and not politician-like, which makes sense. The news here doesn't spend much time on his individual gaffes though.

Here's a short Yomiuri article about the Russia hacking Clinton line.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 02:55

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

DemeaninDemon posted:

I'm going to be severely disappointed if the first millennial president doesn't have a dick pic or tit shot leaked.

With all Trump he has done in his career I feel like he has has a cameo in a porno at some point but because it's pre-internet we don't know about it.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 04:43

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Luigi Thirty posted:

Police are really really really bad at guns

I guess that's yet another entry for my mental list of awful police departments but the problem is that there are 17,000 of them and mental lists apparently are the only lists there are of which ones are ok and awful.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2016 05:16

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

I assumed the delays in debates are in spite of his efforts. I think he wants to get face to face with Hillary and tell her exactly what he thinks, which she won't be prepared for at all and be completely cowed before his glory.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 00:26

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Every time I think "Trump is finally losing it" I have to remember that I thought that months ago and I'll be thinking that months from now too, so it doesn't mean much.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 01:51

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

ComradeCosmobot posted:

The DEA has announced that marijuana will remain on Schedule I for the foreseeable future, as the FDA continues to hold that it has "no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States."

What does it having medicinal use have to do with it staying schedule 1? How did those arguments get tied together?

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:13

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Tulip posted:

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

Oh, well I learned something. I thought the classification was just about danger.

edit: Of course alcohol and tobacco are both schedule 1 as gently caress by those criteria but hey!

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:17

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

WampaLord posted:

What about epileptics and people with cancer who have found medical benefits from marijuana?

I thought the loop was "no scientifically accepted benefit" -> made super-illegal -> can't be experimented on -> "no scientifically accepted benefit".

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:21

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

7c Nickel posted:

I forgot about that one. Trump still has a chance to make a "if those pages weren't so sexy..." argument.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:26

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

computer parts posted:

To be fair a lot of those are just backdoor ways to legalization and even many of the supporters will openly admit that.

Yeah I was pretty sure about that when I was reading dozens of ads for marijuana prescribing doctors on the back page of the local weekly free paper back before my state went recreational legal.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:43

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Eifert Posting posted:

Wait is this a new thing? A buddy of mine told me that Bill Clinton is super popular in Ho Chi Minh because he asked for a second bowl of pho at a local noodle place and basically licked The bowls clean.

How is pho vegan?

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:48

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Eifert Posting posted:

I have literally never smoked pot, and don't really have any interest in it, but cannot understand for the life of me how it's so hard to legalize.

I believe the US is part of international treaties to that effect and I am told that treaties, once signed, are important to even the US.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 04:55

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Sometimes traditional industries just need to be crushed and obliterated and the tobacco business is one of them. Once they are dead and buried maybe people can grow tobacco in their backyards for personal use if they really want to.

# ¿ Aug 11, 2016 07:44

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Luminous Obscurity posted:

I want to watch Trump break on national television.

What would that even look like compared to how he is now? I expect him to make a gradual decline all the way to the election.

edit: I'm planning a Christmas trip back to the States right now and I have to keep reminding myself that that will be in a post-election world that I can't visualize very well.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 02:11

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/763910438522322944
I... Uh... I beg your pardon?

I don't know what else to expect from someone who is an amateur at all of this and believes that's his biggest selling point.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 02:44

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Reset the clock.

Someone mark the time.

Can I be happy that in he's even accidentally calling for an end to indefinite detention with no trial?

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Aug 12, 2016

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 05:35

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

BLM's ten-point program is actually really reasonable and straightforward and would make a big difference. https://politicalmurder.com/2015/08/21/black-lives-matter-offers-10-point-plan-to-curb-police-killing/

quote:

Community oversight. This calls for an all-civilian oversight structure with discipline power that includes a Police Commission and Civilian Complaints Office. Both offices would have specific responsibilities and across-the-board power.

So...they are accepting the terminology that cops are not civilians? Or is that just a figure of speech?

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 15:29

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Still though, things seem like they have been relatively quiet on the Trump front over the last few days. Is he still speaking in public every day and just not saying any new crazy things?

I mean, if he doesn't keep up the crazy, the media will turn to Hillary for basically the first time in the general election.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Aug 15, 2016

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 04:14

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:05

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

foobardog posted:

The US does have a written test for naturalized citizenship, but it's mostly history and civics questions like "When was the first Independence Day?" and "How many senators are there?". Every few years, someone tests natural-born citizens on it, and they do worse than those seeking naturalization, as you might expect.

You can try it too!: https://my.uscis.gov/prep/test/civics/view

That's a whole other ballgame than a test for people just to enter the country.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2016 02:15

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