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This game is a terrible cash-grab from "industry vets" who can't even make unique assets in Unity. This post is pre-alpha, so you cannot critique it or argue with me, sorry.
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BromanderData posted:This looks not great. The makers have stated that it will never be released (so they can hide behind "pre alpha" and other meaningless poo poo). Node - you're good people. May you get your money back.
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jabro posted:Did you set a Google alert for the keyword release in this thread or just spend all day hitting F5? I have a script that alerts me whenever pure poo poo is dribbled onto these forums It pings on this game and your posts
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Aug 14, 2016 17:29
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extra stout posted:The last SoTA news letter I got said that February would have a short update to the game because....February is a short month. It then listed dozens of new items you can buy for real life cash. I don't know anything, I understand nothing Oh, I think you understand perfectly. ... Lum was literally one of my heroes when I was a kid playing UO. It sucks that I'm a dismissible troll to him now, as stupid as that is. Meeting him at a convention was one of the highlights of my silly adolescent years. Okay well, that, and tweetyrants. Try Being A Guide You Nutless Assmuncher. Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 03:10
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Capntastic posted:I did. I even enjoyed it a lot! But Shroud should probably build on some of the sandbox gameplay ideas that have happened in the two decades since UO was birthed. UO is still around, free, and filled with players. There's a massive community on the free shard. I even placed a house near Brit bank, which was supposed to be impossible (it's pretty well filled up with houses).
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Mar 18, 2017 16:06
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Mr. Pickles posted:May I remind you of the fateful day when they asked for like 200k USD to design elves as a playable race, and their intentions to scam became crystal clear. Holy bananas, are you playing Conan Exiles these days? Because if not, somebody else is rocking the Mr Pickles moniker. (sota is bad)
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Apr 5, 2017 03:54
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Node posted:butts I'm sorry, Node. Just for giggles, I went back to try this thing out again. First time I logged in in... a year or so. The game looks and feels like a shovelware "RPG" from 2004. Even playing single player was such boring, ugly garbage that I couldn't play for more than twenty minutes (and most of that was spent figuring out the new interface). It somehow seems to have gotten worse than it was a year ago. Textures are flat, animations are garbage, art is wildly inconsistent, the colors are bizarre, and the fun is nowhere in sight. It is breathtakingly terrible. I don't have enough words to describe how awful this game is. Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Apr 7, 2017 |
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Apr 7, 2017 16:44
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TheAgent posted:anyone backing this was dumb as gently caress lol This was deleted (because Reddit is garbage). Can anyone summarize as to what this was about? Nearest I can tell, is they've asked for another round of funding or something?
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Jun 13, 2017 04:55
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Virtual Captain posted:Oh the whole site is dumb as poo poo, who knows why it's so popular. Cheers. And yeah I know reddit is popular, but just in case you were being sarcastic, I really dislike the weird comment structure they have going on. I find a lot of stuff is hidden (why?), deleted, or linked separately on a second page. It's bizarre to my old-person eyes. I can't count the number of times I follow a link to "holy crap check this thread out" only to see it deleted. And nobody quotes it, cause their comment structure is a butt. Sorry, wrong rant  .
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Jun 13, 2017 18:25
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hey let's look at the investor slide deck: * Ultima Online is twenty years old * 1MM total players is not that many these days * No crowdfunded MMO has ever worked This slide is amazing, and I would like whomever wrote it to be my marketing consultant. It's absolutely brilliant. This slide misses the point by such a wide gulf I'm surprised the author's soul hasn't torn from their body. I... I love this slide.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:05
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extra stout posted:are you kidding me lmao HOLY poo poo. "to get everyone to not be interested in the game" Is this a joke? Am I being pranked? Where's Alan Funt? What's going on here? And they accuse you of legal threats in the same breath. That's equally great.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:08
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DancingShade posted:I'd be shocked if many of the complaints come from actual customers. This is SA, home of the lol yes, the best way to deal with massive criticism is to dismiss it and pretend everyone else is a troll, and furthermore
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Jun 14, 2017 02:04
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IncredibleIgloo posted:New to the thread, is Lum this thread's MoMa? Nah, MoMa was a creepy shill masquerading as a random goon. Lum is a fairly well-known person on the fringes of the mmo industry; he's not a shill as he's been using the same username across multiple sites for at least the last twenty-odd years. Most of us know his real name. He never hid the fact that he was employed at portalarium. He came to fame a long long time ago by running a site like SA but just for Ultima Online, though he later branched out to games / life / philosophy in general. He has a lot of banked credibility, even in this age of lovely idols caught eating turds (garriot, Roberts, Schafer, etc). The reason for that is probably precisely because he was always on the fringe; he's not a Dev or a designer or an artist. He started out by complaining about the bullshit in a weird and crummy industry. He's more like this thread's Cyster (from wildstar).
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Jun 14, 2017 07:13
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extra stout posted:It's a scam. When original backers of the game have no way to express their opinion even on the small dying various forums without being policed, you don't need to be an insider to know this is a sinking ship run by dickheads. I made a post on a Steam thread a few months ago, answering a guy's question directly (I think the question was something like "what is there to do once I get out of the first zone"). I gave tips on where to head first, and what to expect along the way. The thread moved on with a couple other posts about how lovely the game is. I agreed. Their Steam moderator loving deleted my helpful post which answered the question, and then locked the thread because all of the replies were "off topic". From what I can tell, lurking on the periphery of this tirefire, hundreds of people have been banned from their forums and the steam threads at this point. Hell, they're apparently even over-moderating the Reddit dedicated to their lovely game - somehow. Yes, I know Portalarium claims they have no control over the Reddit moderation, but, uh, I don't believe them one bit: some guy on steam came out of the closet to say: posted:On your official forums your community manager said you guys were working on turning things around on r/shroudoftheavatar and right after he posted that the sub started banning people and posts started getting deleted. Maybe a coincidence, but this makes it all seem coordinated. It's incredible to me how badly this company is loving up. Have you jokers never heard of the Streisand effect?!
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Jun 19, 2017 05:57
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CoffeeBooze posted:Well maybe the people in the Wildstar thread who kept telling her they hoped she would lose her job and starve to death had their wish partially come true! She posts very occasionally, as Cyster I believe. 30.5 Days posted:Caydiem is now officially mainly known for her work on wildstar, which was fine, and in wildstar it meant it was far better than everything else in the game. I think she worked on the little mini-dungeon adventures. Can't remember what they were called (scenarios? adventures?), and can't be arsed looking up anything to do with Wildstar. But yeah it seemed to be the best part of that game. I mean, poo poo, I'm not Alexander deLarge, but I do my share of trying out a whole lot of MMOs. I would be happy with Shroud as either an MMO or as a single player game if any of it were fun to play. It just isn't. I only bought the base game on Steam for, like, $40 or whatever, so I'm not out anything for real. At least I've managed to find some fun with hacking the single player version. It's been nice to get back into that. The game is a lot more fun with infinite gold. Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 05:57
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MMOs are just broken toys.
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Jun 20, 2017 05:43
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iminers posted:I don't think no one told Mr. British anything about what people like in MMOs. What? Don't be ridiculous. In fact, Lord British is currently hosting a hard-hitting AMA on Reddit, where he's getting such gems as quote:thanks for sharing your dreams with us and quote:How close are we to be able to brew our own beer?
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Jun 20, 2017 18:41
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OK, respect where it's due. This is genuinely funny:quote:Why did you spend all of our money making virtual hats? quote:We LOVE hats! There is literally no better use of our time or resources. We plan to make thousands of hats soon that will cover every visible surface of the game world! These hats will all be very high-poly so it may impact your gameplay experience slightly but I think you'll agree it's worth it, because hats are so cool!
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Jun 21, 2017 00:04
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Did you know: You cannot buy a house in single player offline unless you spend hundreds of dollars of real money The above is true. They removed "lot deeds" from offline single player. You cannot get a house in your offline game unless you buy a lot deed from their real money store to tie to your account.
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Jun 23, 2017 13:34
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iminers posted:Theyve raised a hefty $187,057 out of the 2 million they need if im reading the seedinvest page correctly. Gariott could fund this thing pretty easily, if he wanted. $20mm USD is not much of his estimated net worth. When you consider that he's trying to attract investors with "everything is fine and dandy I promise" it is very very telling that he won't fund a significant portion himself. Unless he already has, in which case they should be crowing about that.
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jabro posted:I bought $1000 of bitcoin when it was at $24. Should I cash out and invest in Britcoin? I did a market analysis of competitors and here's the data on Shroud: - bad
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Jul 23, 2017 10:54
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Unctuous Cretin posted:There's a handful of good ones that are locked into specific update eras, some that are off the wall with custom scripts, and most of them have next to no playerbase. UO Forever is a completely free shard. Dunno what "era" it is, but yeah it's customized a bit. They added a lot of powerful magical items. The player base is huge - hundreds on at all times, over a thousand at peak. Literally no more room to place houses.
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Rad Russian posted:$10K: Virtue Bierkrug (aka Beer Stein) (NOTE: image is placeholder) Is this real?! Come on.
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Node posted:Okay, it looks like for online, you need to pay Lord British real money for stuff in the addon store. This was as I expected: You cannot currently have a house in the offline game. You must purchase a lot deed in their store - for a $100 minimum, smallest possible house space - and use it in your offline game. Without that, you cannot place a house. Yes, they've said you "will" be able to get the lot deed offline; however, there's no way to do so currently. They want you to buy their stuff.
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Oct 21, 2017 06:29
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Nov 15, 2017 07:40
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Oriental Hugs posted:How the hell are people laundering money with this? There's no game; it's just a real-money store. The "game" is basically a display warehouse where you can show off your virtual goods (spaceships, laser shows, snowmen, and other totally on-theme Ultima decorations). Many of these goods are only on sale for a limited time. They've created false scarcity by only offering, say, three hundred copies of the "Rainbow Vomit" emote. If someone really wants it after the sale is done, they have to buy your copy (or buy your whole account) if it's non-tradeable. I only bought a copy on Steam. I'd love my $40 or whatever back, but I suppose I've gotten some small amount of enjoyment out of the schadenfreude. The game really is breathtakingly bad on every level. There is literally nothing redeeming about the experience at all. It's amazing.
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Republicanus posted:How long is the free trial good for? Can you hang out as a level 5 rear end in a top hat and tell new players lies about dangerous things to do for weeks, or is it time-limited? There are no new players though. That's the thing. It's an empty world of store-bought Unity assets and janky animations. It is terrible. It is so bad.
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HungryMedusa posted:Can't you have more than one character now? You should do any of the new user areas and report back how they feel. Personally, it took two quests in for me to ragequit because of NPCs not knowing what I was talking about, but that was like November, maybe they fixed it by now? Only if you (a) bought an early account or (b) pay for a character slot. My source on that is steam comments - I browsed them after game launch to see if anything improved - and one of like three active threads was complaining about that aspect. If I’m wrong about that, I apologize. But it wouldn’t surprise me at all.
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I said come in! posted:Yeah, Shroud of the Avatar has a offline version that lets you craft and have access to any of the super expensive cash shop items that you can only obtain with real money on the official online server. Making the online server kinda pointless. Unless this has changed recently, it's not entirely true. You cannot, in fact, get a land deed in offline mode - you must buy it from their store (or buy it from a player vendor using in-game RMT shekels). Even to play single player offline, you have to have done the real money transaction. Edit: Looks like this did change a month or so ago. You can now buy deeds in offline mode using in-game gold. Although you still cannot buy castle or keep deeds, even in offline mode. Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 13, 2018 |
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I want my $40 back.
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Ehud posted:It really is one of the worst games I’ve ever tried. It really is impressive on that front, yeah. For a game that's got a several-tens-of-millions USD budget, it's breathtakingly bad. Hopefully, when someone comes round to do the tell-all expose on Star Citizen's dramatic failure, they'll spare a chapter for this one. I wonder where the money went? Like, for real - where did it go? Not art assets, not sound, not animations. Not network coding, not security, not bug fixing. Not gameplay design. Not marketing. I mean, with Star Citizen, we know the money is going right to Chris Robberts and his creepy pornwife's "movie script", along with a whole lot of development. Mind you, the development isn't getting anywhere because what he's trying to do is stupid, but there's a lot of code being written. What about this game?
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Stefan Prodan posted:no, we play games to crush Nobody plays games to bake bread. Double hally hit.
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unironically, the best part of this game has been watching the clueless old people try to convince potential new customers that there's some paid-shill conspiracy going on trying to "ruin" this game's reputation. Starr Long is literally going to other forums talking about this mess and providing dire warnings about organized trolls:quote:...instead of fixing those problems, the devs decided to try and play victim and blame the backers calling them "An organized group of trolls trying to hurt their game". When the reality is they love to spin and play victim instead admitting they are the problem... I will post their video that speaks volumes... Now, Garriott himself has also gotten in on the "it's a paid troll conspiracy!!!!!!!!11" bandwagon: I mean, ha ha, as if we're all getting paid by Activizzard! What a joke! Right, guys? Like there's some kind of shadowy cabal working behind the scenes to injure this poor, wonderful project. It would be bigger than WoW if only we organized trolls would stop our campaign! Which totally doesn't exist, ha! SCORPION OLIVE VANISH JUNGLE Also, remember what the You need a platinum account to access this content.
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CoffeeBooze posted:Considering how many of these Kickstarters are turning into blatant scams run by people who are absolutely unrepentant about what they are doing, I dont think people like Garriott and Roberts are nice at all. He's a very, very, very wealthy man who could have spent ten million making the game he wanted to make. The problem with relying on whales / cash shops is, well... this game is a good example. You end up catering to the whims of your biggest whales because you can't afford to have them take their ball and go home. Or you end up focusing heavily on Joe BigDonor's pet feature. So you end up with not just crowd funding, but crowd design. And that poo poo never works. So, no, I don't think Garriott is a nice guy. I think he could have funded his vision, and he deliberately chose not to risk any of his capital. He made a lot of money off of this.
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Texibus posted:He probably just pays himself an absurd amount to be an officer of the company. Doesn't need to do anything shady. Yeah, I'd bet it's this one. Because as I said upthread, the money really really didn't go anywhere else: Modeling / Art Direction: Nope, they used lovely pre-made Unity assets everywhere. The textures look like a 3D (!!!) game from the early aughts. The art is a mess. Even the iconography is awful. Development: Nope, the gameplay is rudimentary at best. The performance is downright embarrassing. Characters lag and stutter everywhere because they're trying to load in ten billion unity assets. Animations: lol Bug fixes: lol again Marketing: They literally stated they didn't want to do marketing before launch (what?). So, not this one either. Game Design: Nope, the gameplay is widely considered the worst thing about the game. It's just not fun at all. Nobody ever thought about how it would all stitch together. So, where'd it go? Where did the twelve million bucks actually go?
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Gynovore posted:Wait what? Twelve million? He raised 3M from Kickstarter, did he really get 9 mil for his blood? He got 9 million from the monthly “telethons” that they still do, as well as from whales buying /pukeblood emotes and snowman dances. Their financials are available. We don’t know exactly how much cash was infused by other investors (Travian, Black Sun, etc). The financial data shows they’re making $2,000 / day on cash ship items, and $250,000 / quarter on begging telethons. These do not appear to cover their operating expenses, however. Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 18, 2018 |
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Good luck to you, Lum. Please don't hitch your wagon to the very things you used to criticize. Next time, I mean.
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Thursday Next posted:He got 9 million from the monthly “telethons” that they still do, as well as from whales buying /pukeblood emotes and snowman dances. Their financials are available. We don’t know exactly how much cash was infused by other investors (Travian, Black Sun, etc). quoting myself to add to this: Richard "Lord British" Garriott is estimated to have a personal worth of at least half a BILLION dollars. * When he went to space, his Fun Space Adventure Ticket cost him around thirty million united states dollars. * He has not been shown to have invested a single dollar into this amazing game. * Reddit is a bunch of idiot boychildren who apparently think Hillary Clinton funded this game? What? Gynovore posted:Okay, there's definitely something not kosher going on. For a hundredth of what they raised, they could have hired three Full Sail grads as 3D modelers, texture artists, playtesters, whatever. They had more than enough money and time to make a quality game, but chose not to. exactly Where the dick did the money gooooo
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big nipples big life posted:"Right Sized" Those comments “This game is just too good for WoW babies,” I insist, lifting one meaty leg from the couch. The effort comes close to exhausting me. “It’s literal perfection. Many gamers are afraid of that.” I begin to fart. “If you don’t pledge to this game, if you haven’t already bought in for at least ten kay, you’re an obvious child. Go back to Call of Duty, you WoW baby.” I can feel the gas end, deep in my digestion, and the solid begin. A fist-sized turd slides down my leg. My pants, moisture soaking in, start to cling. My abused anus puckers amidst wet fabric. I keep my expression carefully neutral as I dip a finger into into the waistband of my cargo jorts. The fetid anal sweat excites me. I remove my hand and draw a line across the cloth map I always have to hand. My leg trembles with the effort of remaining upright. It will be worth it. It’s coming. “WoW... babies!!” The final expulsion sees the canvas in front of me covered. Runnels of dark brown streak the white landscape. Filtered by my pants, the bulk of the solid has been caught. But there is plenty of liquid that has come from my anus. I am glad; anything less would be an insult, unworthy of Garriott. I lower my leg, the event over. “SotA,” I murmur. I fart again. “Or was it Razor?” https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3459842 Thursday Next fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 20, 2018 |
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DancingShade posted:One of these days I'm going to have to play WoW simply so I can "get" a lot of the talk around it. It's an OK game that's been polished to such a high degree that many people can't get a purchase on it, if that makes sense. There are no hidden gems to find or broken builds to theorycraft. But, there are essentially zero game-breaking bugs, and a massive support staff that keeps everything running smoothly. Nothing is really challenging, or engaging. But nothing is really frustrating, or obtuse. WoW is fine. I like some jank in my games (finding tricks, or abusing mechanics, or crating cool builds are all kind of my jam). I don't sub to WoW any longer because of that. But it is by no means a bad game.
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