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This is going to be the best game in the series. After playing the demo and looking at all the prerelease info, this is the only possible outcome. Btw for newcomers, I'd say the only necessary one to play before anything else is the original Phoenix Wright. Playing in order is recommended because the gameplay in each game tends to build off the last one, but Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney has an entirely different feel with it, one that would be jarring if you ever played it after another game. From Justice For All onward the tone stays the same, AND the games go out of their way to avoid spoilers for previous games in the series. However, events that happen in Phoenix Wright turn almost every expectation of the series on its head, and any one game in the series after it will spoil it. The release order is again recommended but if all you want to do is play the kickass new entry, you only really need to play the first. tl;dr: Every game in the series is stand-alone except for the first, which sets the stage for the plot for the rest of the series. ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Regalingualius posted:Plus 1 has the second-greatest cross-examination of all time. Oh yeah. That. You'll definitely know it when you see it.
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Sep 8, 2016 05:37
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Waffleman_ posted:I'm starting it now, but I'm assuming the thread name change is a reference. Yeah you play as Apollo Justice and he's fine!
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Sep 8, 2016 19:50
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Waffleman_ posted:No, that part I did. The Ace of Attorney part is the change. Oh, I didn't even notice that. 
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Sep 8, 2016 20:12
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voltcatfish posted:Oh my god his name is Pees'Lubn Andistan'dhin Everything about him owns.
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Sep 8, 2016 21:44
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legoman727 posted:Okay, this part has me completely stumped. Holy hell someone please help. The one time consultation would be helpful...
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Sep 9, 2016 06:15
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cloofish posted:Holy hell someone please help. The one time consultation would be helpful... Ok after like 3 game overs I found what it is. The shadow is mr hat BUT you can't present him. Instead you present the shadow that rises up when Trucy enters.
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Sep 9, 2016 06:27
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:I dunno, man, I got that part right away myself. It seemed to make sense. Something I should mention is that I'm a dumbass that can't put (1-4 spoilers) bullet and metal detector together. ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 07:49
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Well, finished my 1st day with this game and it kinda got off on the wrong foot but all in all I felt it was pretty good.  on your thoughts with case 2. Fantastic and surprising, it's probably one of my favorites.Disagree with your opinion on Nahyuta. I love his calm but  personality, I think it set him apart well enough from other prosecutors, I mean it really felt like a different kind of battle with him. And it of course made him really satisfying to take down. I'm really interested now in finding out what the hell he and Apollo have to do with each other.
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Sep 9, 2016 15:03
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legoman727 posted:Case 2: Reintz is totally Robert Downey Jr, right? I'm not the only one who sees this, am I? I'd be surprised if you didn't. e: alcharagia posted:i already hate prosecutor sahdmadhi he is a mean bad man He's so delusional and cruel, I love it.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:08
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Why is Robert Downey Jr. such an rear end in a top hat? That's episode 2 spoilers btw. And (Episode 2 end spoilers) he's one of the best villains in the series.
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Sep 9, 2016 22:40
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Episode 3 done The saddest tournabout 
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Sep 10, 2016 04:06
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fronz posted:Athena is cool out of the court but analytical psychology sucks The mood matrix is never used for something like this.
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Sep 10, 2016 19:40
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fronz posted:I used it for something like that immediately before I posted. Oh right, yeah. I know what you're talking about, sorry . Still I've found it was more used to better understand the state of the crime than to just see through lies. Idk, it occurs infrequently enough and has enough variance to stay interesting imo. 
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Sep 10, 2016 23:15
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Anyway me making an rear end of myself aside, Episode 5 may be the greatest and most ambitious case in the series.
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Sep 10, 2016 23:16
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Just finished the game, and I gotta say, that was quite a ride! The cases did a good job in ramping things up each case (except for, of course, case 4, which really should have been much earlier in the game) and they did a good job with having satisfying twists in each case. Maybe it's just me in the honeymoon phase, but case 5 might be the new high point of the series. I don't want to make a huge writeup on it because it's MASSIVE, possibly the biggest case in the series. And it's just one rollercoaster ride from beginning to end. Imo it justifies the purchase of the game but then every other case is really great so... !SPOILER! This game really was Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney 2. You've come a long way Polly.  !SPOILER!
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Sep 11, 2016 03:25
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Well then, Case 5 Trial Day 2. I never expected prosopagnosia to be an important element of a game again, but here we are. I had a big stupid grin on my face during that part.
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Sep 11, 2016 05:58
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LostRook posted:I would say it's more like an actual Apollo Justice game, as the original was really all about Phoenix. That whole game the only thing you really learn about Apollo's past is his mom. Again, whole game spoilers. Yeah true. I'm glad the localization team decided to call the game Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice because 1. Apollo is just taking back what's his and 2. The fact that Apollo is the sole protagonist of case 5 is a nice surprise.
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Sep 11, 2016 07:04
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Regy Rusty posted:"Filler" cases are good I don't think the distinction between "filler" and "plot important" cases was made until Trials and Tribulations. I mean yeah 1-4 has a HUGE impact on the rest of the series but they had to have some kind of grand finale for the first game. Trials and Tribulations was the first game to have an overarching plot besides "DL-6 happened". (Incidentally T&T owned a whole lot) ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Sep 11, 2016 |
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Sep 11, 2016 08:18
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Terper posted:Phoenix is a loser and the game would be better without him taking up screentime Phoenix is cool but I think he's better telling dad jokes from the sidelines cause Apollo is cooler and much more well-developed.
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Sep 11, 2016 08:29
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Full game spoilers, seriously don't read this until you're done. I love this game. I don't think that's really a controversial opinion seeing as the goon opinion is that this game is AT LEAST among the best the series has to offer. Central to this, I think, is how this game handled Apollo, someone who as the main character in their own game, had almost no agency in any other game. Phoenix was driving the main plot, and Klavier was so loving perfect that he figured out the murderer in 4-2 and 4-3 well before Apollo did. 4-1 and 4-4 Apollo, and you by extension, don't feel any accomplishment because it's really just Phoenix using you to take down Kristoph and restore his good name. DD was a BIT kinder to Apollo, seeing as newcomer Athena treats him with respect and learns from him. Still, Athena, the newest character, basically drives the plot, and Apollo, while definitely having a major presence in the story, leaves it up to Phoenix to save the day. SO. We finally get to Spirit of Justice. Phoenix, as expected, kickstarts the game. We get to case 2 and Apollo takes down an extremely intelligent enemy of his family with a plan that would have been flawless if not for Bonny's clumsiness. This earns him the respect of Phoenix, and in a lesser game like DD, that would be the end of Apollo's plot. However we learn in case 3 that Apollo is related to the main prosecutor and the enigmatic force behind the scenes. Case 4 happens and is just kinda there. Then case 5 has you back as Apollo and even has you beat Phoenix Wright in court. Ok cool, Apollo's story is done, time for Phoenix to resolve the rest of the plot. Only no, you're investigating day 2 as Apollo. Then it switches to Phoenix and Edgeworth. Ok NOW it's time for Phoenix to save the day right? Only no, you stay as Apollo after that, and for the rest of the game. At every intermission you're wondering if Phoenix is going to come back and solve the rest of the case, but no, this game is really about Apollo's past, present, and future. In the end he ends up solving a case greater than any his mentor has solved (much like 3-5) and seeing as he's become his own man, he establishes his own law office. Apollo, the character that ended up shafted in favor of everyone else, has actually had the most complete character arc in the series, pretty much because of one game. Sorry, that's a pretty long-winded explanation, but this game seriously amazed me. Apollo Justice was inconsistent as gently caress and Dual Destinies pretty much just played things safe, but this game definitely felt like it moved the franchise forward. I have no doubt that this team has at least as much talent as Shu Takumi to create a compelling narrative.
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Maple Leaf posted:Just started on the game now. Is the frame rate a little low for anyone else? I'm using an OG Gen 1 3DS because it's capture-modded and I can't upgrade. It's not a huge issue, the game being what is essentially a graphic novel with music and cutscenes; I'm just wondering if the game was optimized for New 3DS or something. No, there will be noticeable lag at points regardless of which 3DS you use.
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Sep 12, 2016 02:55
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Waffleman_ posted:Case 4: THIS IS NOT PROPER RAKUGO ATTIRE. I AM GETTING CIRCUS FLASHBACKS! One difference is that, aside from being just "there", case 4 owns.
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Sep 12, 2016 03:53
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AlphaKretin posted:Hey speaking of Nahyuta, how exactly is one supposed to refer to his unique voice clip? I can't remember it offhand, but it spells it out in the text log.
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Sep 12, 2016 09:47
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ilifinicus posted:Which one's the best? it's been so long since I played the other games that I don't even remember anymore Imo Apollo Justice's is by far the best, as it's actually pretty surprising and a pretty wild ride in general. e: AAI2's is really good too.
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Sep 12, 2016 20:33
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Amppelix posted:'S alright. It's no clown case. Sure, the logic kinda sucks and it has the video, but none of the witnesses are actively unlikable idiots who make you want to stop reading the dialogue (which is what I play these games for mostly anyway). It's even worse than Turnabout Big Top. First there's the loving video (GOD THAT VIDEO) and then there's the premise: the prosecution asserts that a small child manages to fire a hand cannon without dislocating anything as well as somehow being able to drag a bigass man to the stage. Then there's the fact that Big Top leads into a kickass case, while Serenade leads into a case that can best be called "uneven".
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Sep 12, 2016 21:58
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Waffleman_ posted:Case 4: Uendo is a pretty man. Best witness in the series. Really sad because him being from a filler case means he'll probably never come back. 
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Sep 13, 2016 00:59
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Adrian Andrews at least had the good fortune to be in a major case. (Even though it doesn't really have a big role in the plot, it's a huge deal in terms of Phoenix and Edgeworth's character development) Wendy Oldbag I guess? The bellboy? Yeah it doesn't really happen. 
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Sep 13, 2016 01:30
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Terper posted:If you look over how the whole deal went down it does, technically, not count as "false evidence"... because the court never accepts it as evidence. The Judge asks Apollo to provide a new possibility, Apollo presents the card, the Judge flips out and asks "Is this the card that was taken from the crime scene?!" and Gavin says "No that's impossible" and Phoenix immediately jumps in with "yeah but only the true culprit would know that" which is what he needs to draw attention to the fact that Gavin couldn't have stood where he claimed. Yeah it's pretty cool because it's insurance to put Kristoph in a no-win situation. Plus Kristoph is so fond of forged evidence anyway.
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Sep 13, 2016 06:30
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Raxivace posted:Man y'all are way ahead of me, I'm still on Case 3. I'm jealous of you because this game is SO good and I want to experience it for the first time again.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:34
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:It did, she wrote a entire blogpost on it and frequently brings it up if asked. Datz owns for sure but my favorite is definitely Uendo. I mean, how could you not love FOUR characters for the price of one? It's brilliant. Also I'm glad that Apollo definitively got the spotlight in this game.
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Sep 14, 2016 08:05
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Irisize posted:So I just finished the whole game and wow, that was a wild ride. Woah woah woah. I can understand not being satisfied with case 1, since it's pretty much held up by Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin, but case 2 is legitimately awesome. As others have said it's a better finale to Apollo Justice than 4-4, with a kickass villain in whose scheme would have been flawless if not for Bonny's clumsiness. And I don't think we've had a remote killing like this before? Overall the case was fantastic, with a fantastically evil villain. But aside from that minor gripe, yes I can agree with you that this game is fantastic.
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Sep 14, 2016 14:58
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's definitely clear from playing this game that the staff took some things away from AA vs. PL; among other things, (case 6-5) Ga'ran came off to me as them wanting take another crack at Darklaw, who had a really great design and animations...and then had absolutely no presence beyond that. Also that theme is sick, she made up for Nahyuta and how insufferably boring he was in spades. She owns. I never thought we'd have a straight-up Disney villain in Ace Attorney, but well here we are.
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Sep 14, 2016 19:42
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alcharagia posted:why is this game titled phoenix wright even Imo the marketing team's decision to rake in more bux makes the reveal that Apollo's the main character even more epic.
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Sep 15, 2016 05:57
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TheKingofSprings posted:http://askaceattorney.tumblr.com/post/145664710287/famitsu-aa6-popularity-polls Oldbag is cool, gently caress the haters. Also how is Apollo ranked 5th? He's so blatantly the best it's almost unfair.
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And More posted:You must be one of those despicable, forked-tongued lawyers. For your lie, you will burn in the eighth hell. It is very unpleasant, let me tell you. 
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SyntheticPolygon posted:This series is completely allergic to writing out characters. There's no way Apollo's not back next game. Tell that to my friend Dick Gumshoe.
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Sep 16, 2016 07:22
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alcharagia posted:case 5 investigation 2 what the gently caress am I looking for in dhurke's peceive segment Try checking his left sleeve.
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alcharagia posted:case 5 trial 2: okay so I know we here on the something awful forums understand the idea of exaggeration. I've literally been laughing for over two minutes straight at Queen Ga'Ran's FINAL FORM. help me Reasonable reaction tbh
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Momomo posted:Putting the cases out of order doesn't typically help the narrative at all, so I prefer them in chronological order. AA5 was especially bad about it since you had stuff like Athena suffering PTSD from Payne when she had already beaten Blackquill in court. It worked really, really well narratively in T&T but yeah they went reeeeeally overboard with that in DD. Iirc the case order was 2 -> DLC -> 3 -> first part of 4 -> 1 -> second part of 4 -> 5 
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