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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Sith Happens posted:

:aaaaa:

Really good catch there!

I didn't remember that scene offhand, so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELo74udR7A

And for anyone not familiar with music from The Rocketeer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixwu-4f8ZI

:aaaaa:

Just catching up on this thread, and just realized there's a key second part to that reference; The paint job of the B-Wing's rather similar to the Rocketeer's look.

Also goddamn can Thrawn turn a minor inconvenience into a major victory. They sabotaged an infiltration droid and blew up a Star Destroyer? Excellent, we now know for certain that the base is on one of the planets we sent them to! :eng101:

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:

Kinda bummed that Sabine is off the show right when she finally gets to shine.

The sad thing is she's never had much of a central role on the show really. Sabine's always been the extra tag-along for everyone else's missions/jobs/personal issues, so it's not really surprising or much of a loss if she goes. Even Zeb's had more character development facing off against Special Agent Kallus over his extinct species.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Pops Mgee posted:

Clan Wren is under House Vizla so probably.

No, it's a fact. Part of Sabine meeting the Mandalorians on that broken planet was them going "Sabine WREN?! SHE'S loving DEATHWATCH! :argh:" while she tried to explain it was her mother who was in Deathwatch, not her.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Medullah posted:

That's always been one of my favorite things about Star Wars though. Sure it's space ships and laser blasters and lightsabers but the technology is generally grungy and utilitarian. No posh transporter and sparkling clean ships, the Falcon is a junker, etc. When Luke pulls out his Macrobinoculars in ANH the screen is fuzzy and staticy.

A lot of the basic technology principles aren't new either. Hyperdrive is so old (to the tune of like 40,000+ years) no-one remembers who invented it.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Phylodox posted:

For that matter, when are they going to introduce the x-wings? They haven't already, have they?

The original canon was that InCom was making them for the Empire, before the designers decided "gently caress this noise" and legged it with the prototypes to the Rebel Alliance. So that's probably worth a heist-pulling episode at least.



Covok posted:

I don't see why they would. Keeping it as is makes a callback to Lothal and, honestly, it would be weird if they suddenly changed it to an ocean planet or a volcano planet.

There's really no reason to expect it to change. Keep in mind that the full-length feature film Rogue One had both a Hammerhead Cruiser from Rebels (which I was overly excited to see pop up for an action scene :allears:) and Saw Gerrera first appeared in the Clone Wars series.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Just saw the episode where they were going to extract Kallus, and I love how they worked Thrawn's study of art into a simple ten-second deduction coming just from the artwork on Ezra's Bounty Hunter helmet. The brushes are the same as the Rebel artist Sabine Wren's... which means it was most likely Ezra in the prison cell and Kallus would certainly recognise him. There's our mysterious spy :eng101:.

I also suspect he took a single glance at the altered map and knew exactly which planet was gone :ohdear:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Moon Slayer posted:

That scene and the one where he deduced who Hera was are great, and everything I ever wanted from canon Thrawn.

I really love how well they've treated Thrawn as a character, because every time they pull some cliche trick to fool him (Swap the map, blow up all the probe droids) he just sifts through the aftermath and picks out the logical details that make it a whole lot worse for them in about two minutes.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Aces High posted:

I never read any of the Star Wars books myself but for me this representation of Thrawn is not too far off from the cold, calculating guy who saved Emperor Palpatine from being captured by Zaarin and then also baited the same guy out by paying attention (TIE Fighter was a pretty big part of my childhood). From what I have heard of in the books Thrawn would look at paintings and art collections and be able to win major offenses because "according to these brush strokes, this species will fall for a pincer attack" which sounds absolutely retarded.

I can understand frustrations with EU characters being resurrected but I think Thrawn was one of the best ideas they had for a season long villain, especially since the Inquisitors from last season were kind of underwhelming.

Its not the artist, but the artpiece itself speaking of the culture it came from. The brushstroke thing was tantamount to childsplay for him.

The general idea is he examines artpieces of his various enemy's cultures and races, getting in the head of how they think when painting them as well as the actual subject matter. Something like that, anyway.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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drunkill posted:

The tabletop game Armada is getting two more ships which came from Rebels (and Rogue One too I guess) in the Carrier and Hammerhead:
https://twitter.com/FFGames/status/841773120113508352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


Now we just need it to go the other way and have an Imperial Raider show up in Rebels sometime. Would have made a good enemy back in season 1.


It's a nice ship, but far too high-tier for season 1. Season 1 was about clowning the local garrison and light cruisers, while and starting to provoke the higher-ups enough to require a Special Agent to go take a look-see as to what's going on.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Aces High posted:

I firmly believe that the majority of stormtroopers are of the mind of "uh uh, I don't get paid enough for this poo poo. They may be Rebels and that means I might die"

Because really, how many stormtroopers has Vader killed for incompetence? That's right, none, it's the officers that always get in poo poo

I'm quite partial to the bit scene in The Force Awakens where you see a couple of Stormtroopers rock up to see what the noise is, realise it's Kylo Ren having a temper tantrum, and turn right the gently caress around because that is not gonna be a fun time to be near.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Just saw the episode with them sneaking through the nebula. Goddamn if the shot of those Star Destroyers cooking wasn't gorgeous as hell :allears:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

Yeah, if someone had told me in 1999 that two cartoon series would make Darth loving Maul a compelling character I'd have laughed in their face.

Gennedy Tartarkovski made General Grievous an unstoppable Jedi-killing motherfucker. Boy was that a disappointment when Episode 3 came out afterwards.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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twistedmentat posted:

Ah but did you miss how at the end of the Clone Wars cartoon, Mace Windu does massive damage to Grievous which explains why he's such a bitch in episode 3?

I remember it, and it still means we didn't get badass Grievous in the actual movie :argh:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Bad Moon posted:

I remember reading in a book when I was a kid about Luke sitting in Obi Wan's house, staring at a forge and using the Force to remove all the impurities in a light saber crystal and practically making GBS threads himself as a moments distraction would cause the whole thing to explode and probably kill him. I always liked the idea as I thought the idea that a Jedi having a light saber was an implicit acknowledgement of their mastery of the Force and Luke getting his as an inheritance was a sloppy short cut due to desperation

What was that from? I don't think it wa the novelizations of the movies but maybe it was?

One of the things from the original EU is that Jedi have to assemble their lightsabre using the Force as part of their training, because it's an insanely precise puzzle to bring all the pieces together. Even then turning it on for the first time involves Shepard's Prayer; "Dear God, please don't let me gently caress up :pray:", because the drat thing might blow up when the button is pushed.

I assume opening a lightsabre is one of those things that will just spit out tiny parts every-loving-where, and you'll never find where that one bit went after it pinged off behind the couch.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Well, I learned something with the latest episode to air in Australia; Whatever you do, do not gently caress with Hera's droid! :stare:



Huh. :suspense:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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galagazombie posted:

God I hope not. I'm so sick of everything these day's having to be about how the good guys are just as bad as the villians and how taking a stand is a bad thing. I really liked it when Kanan called out the Bendu for being a coward who let evil happen to others so he could feel smug. The central pillar of Star Wars is the Jedi as these big mythological heroes. Whats the point to the story otherwise?

Heroes tend to be very different from legend than when you meet them in person. The best ones tend to just be written as regular people who just got lucky or caused a story to get told that was exaggerated from fighting a few bandits to forty well-armed men. And a dog. Even Obi-Wan in A New Hope just carried himself like an old Samurai who'd seen to much poo poo.

Besides, the prequels, through atrocious writing, make a point of the Jedi getting too up their rear end about not detecting evil because they're far too high and mighty to the point it diminishes their ability to use the Force. They don't think like Sith, so they missed the signs until it was far too late to act. What you need for a real good Jedi is an utter bastard.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Hakkesshu posted:

Not really. How could the rebellion ever occupy a planet out in the open? The empire would just nuke the poo poo out of it.

Mon Cala was openly an Alliance member and producing capital ships for them by RotJ iirc.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:

Sir Rebel ships coming out of Hyperspace.

Identify!

Sir, it's the Recreation Comission and the Office of Budget.

We're being boarded sir! By the Tourism Board!

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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DancinBrud posted:

Filoni has hinted pretty heavily that it could happen.

They should do it with cut-in footage from the actual movie for the external shots.

It worked for Red and Gold Leader, after all. :v:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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I'm just pleased as hell that the TIE Defenders made it into Nu-Canon. Weren't they originally from the TIE Fighter game?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Kingtheninja posted:

The real test will be if the stealth TIE makes it in.

TIE Phantoms were pretty awesome :allears:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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AndyElusive posted:

I love that the Interdictors were reintroduced as well if I'm talking about big ships.


Ya I dug the bright yellow, hazard stripes and the missing solar panel that actually improves the pilots peripherial vision but yet somehow makes the ship less manueverable.

Interdictors are a bit of a problem though, as the rule for Hyperdrive in old-EU has always been you can't Jump in a gravity well. Interdictors work by generating artificial gravity wells to yank out passing ships in Hyperspace and hold ones already in the area from escaping.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Chickenwalker posted:

How is that a problem?

You mean aside from the U-Wing making that daring last-second escape to Hyperspace while in the atmosphere in Rogue One?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Chickenwalker posted:

Basically what I'm saying is, Rogue One showed me that we're basically going to get a bunch of vignettes of stuff people have been dying to do with their Star Wars toys since they were kids. That's going to give us some cool rear end poo poo like Vader wrecking dudes and the Scarif space battle, but it's also going to give us a bunch of dumb poo poo like Rey being able to beast Kylo with 0 training or the destruction of Hosnian Prime being visible from halfway across the galaxy on Takodana.

Rey beating Kylo isn't so unbelievable when you realize he's a colossal fuckup with Grand-daddy issues. He really wants to be Vader and everything he does is what Vader would clearly do AND IT DOESN'T WORK, WHY DIDN'T IT WORK AAARGGGH DIE CONSOLE! DIE!

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Covok posted:

Also, honestly, he has just killed his own father. He thought that'd make him closer to the Dark Side like it did for Anakin, but the novels (and the film tried to imply this) he actually felt a strong pull to the light due to his regret. Rey, on the other hand, was clear of purpose. Doubt makes one weak in the force and only one of them doubted themselves.

I actually really love Kylo Ren as a villain, because you do not know which way he will jump or how far he will go to prove he is Big Bad Vader's grandson. And that makes him goddamn terrifying as a character.

Vader would calmly kill a commanding officer for failure, promote the next guy down, and that would be the end of it. Kylo Ren might do anything up to sinking the entire ship for failure because THAT'S WHAT VADER WOULD DO! :rant:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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So I just saw Twin Suns. That Alec Guiness impression is haunting :stare:. I also love that the moment Maul dares to threaten Luke it is go time.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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VolticSurge posted:

I guess this is the inspiration for that one guy in TFA? The "Traitor" guy?

That's what I assumed too, incidentally.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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MonsterEnvy posted:

Lyst actually shows up a lot. He was the one who sized the farm, he was helping in the factory among other things

I think he has had around 8 appearances. Anyway with Kallus now open traitor Lyst will probably be released.

Thrawn knew who the real traitor was from the get-go, so I doubt Lyst was even actually imprisoned. Reassigned offworld to hide him, maybe, but never arrested.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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twistedmentat posted:

There's another today near the end of today as well

Also, I don't know if anyone cares but here's the Last Jedi trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ

Pretty sure you're not supposed to post porn in the forums :stwoon::fh:.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Illegal Clown posted:

Yeah, I though Filoni was taken off as the head of Rebels to develop a new show?

If so, it's probably still in the drafting stages. Plus not wanting to overshadow the final season of Rebels.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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MrJacobs posted:

Well, it was the best non-chopper episode. Chopper is the best drat character on the show afterall.

I'm kinda sad they didn't manage to squeeze him into Rogue One somewhere, just being an rear end in a top hat on Yavin 4.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Zebulon posted:

They did. He's roaming around in one of the hanger scenes.

Oh wow, he is too :stare:. Even gets a speaking line by the sound of it, which I'm sure is filled with profanity.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Given we're getting side-movies like Rogue One and the Han Solo movie, I actually think a big-budget Game of Thrones-esque Star Wars series is perfectly possible now.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Aces High posted:

AAAHAHAHHHHAHAHAH WE FINALLY GET X-WINGS :neckbeard:

Project Stardust is going to be the X-Wings, considering it's a "threat to the TIE Defenders". In the Legends canon they were originally built by InCom for the Empire, until the design team decided gently caress that and absconded with the prototypes to the Rebellion.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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Gervasius posted:

Project Stardust is the Death Star. Probably competed for funding with Defender project.

Oh that's right, it was in Rogue One :cripes:.

Though Project Stardust was probably competing for funding with every project.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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J33uk posted:

I always figured they were like the F-22, they're best in class but were super expensive. The Assault Gunboat on the other hand is clearly a compromised product, it can sorta dogfight, sorta attack capital ships and the Imperial Marines insisted on that weird VTOL capability that melts the decks of their landing barges.

No, the compromise is the TIE Interceptor. It's a superior aerospace-superiority starfighter to the TIE/LN, but it's much cheaper without the extra toys like a Hyperdrive or Shields.

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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

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NTRabbit posted:

JJ Abrams is not a good director and I thought TFA was a thoroughly ordinary movie that reflected this, so in my opinion no.

TFA was a VERY safe movie(I quite liked it), but I kinda think it had to be due to setting the tone for everything after it long-term for the franchise (ie; "It's not gonna be the Prequel Trilogy again, we SWEAR!").

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