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MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Tias posted:

I for one await the supremacy of the neo-spartan gay legions!

Theban

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MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Extensive Vamping posted:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3498179/posts

Great slapfight going on in here, on mobile so not easy to post excerpts, just read the last page if you want the gist.

E: looks like pizzagate will continue to 'deliver' for a while



This is the new world we live in and it's here to stay.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
So, has President Trump released his tax returns yet?

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Republicans posted:

Unless there's some legal obligation to ever do so, no.

But that was the argument right, that he'd release them once election was over?

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

SocketWrench posted:

Doesn't matter, his taxes could red all zeros and negatives with a big read stamp saying "tax payment past due, final notice" and his base would still suck his cock for all it was worth to them. If him losing a BILLION loving DOLLARS in one year further convinces them he's a shrewd business man, then nothing is going to change their opinion on him tax wise

Yes, but I would still like to watch them actually have to swallow that cock.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

SocketWrench posted:

We must drain the swamp of corrupt, self serving politicians.....so that I, Donald J Trump, can fill it with corrupt, self serving cronies

It really worries me so many bought into his lies. It wasn't just the freep types or the normal blind party voters, but just average voters too. that such a huge swath of the US is so gullible and able to fool with conspiracies and blatant lies does not bold well for the future of any nation

The Dems and the GOP (insert your country's "center"-right and center-"left" parties here) have been alternating in loving the working class for decades, where do you want them to turn to when they wise up to what's going on and there is no left wing alternative because ~*communism*~? This farce is going to end sooner or later, people will only go for "the lesser of two evils" while they aren't yet hosed and the only ones lining up to catch the pieces are the fascists. We are living in "interesting times".

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 10, 2016

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Radish posted:

If Trump takes a huge dump on the government then leaves it to the entirely GOP controlled branches to hold (then tells all his supporters he was unfairly run out of the position) I think that would be the best outcome we can hope for.

The best outcome we can hope for is an ebola epidemic that kills all reactionaries. The problem isn't that Trump is president, the problem is that Trump got elected. That won't change even if he has a stroke tomorrow.

Same goes for the recent Austrian elections, everybody was patting themselves in the back that "the fascists were defeated". The fascists got 47% of the vote, by which measure is that "a victory"?

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Remember Texas?

California secession organizers say they've opened an embassy -- in Moscow













These people won and they're still bemoaning how they are being forced to start a civil war and kill all liberals.









:ussr:















:iceburn:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Dissent is treason patriotism treason.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Radish posted:

Sarah Palin was queen because she never actually had to do anything and could just parrot stupid poo poo. Trump is going to gently caress them so hard and it's going to be one of the few silver linings to this mess to see them try and figure out how it's totally awesome.

The problem is that even if they vote for one of the establishment candidates next it's not like the establishment will stop being the establishment and we'll be right back here the next cycle only with someone much worse.

On the plus side people are finally realizing that even though there are differences between the "center" parties in each country (GOP/Dems, Tories/Labour, etc etc) for several decades now the difference has been one of degree rather than substance, the working class is always hosed regardless. Rather than alternating between Right/"Left" elections will start alternating between Establishment/"Outsider"
On the negative side the oligarchy has done such a thorough job demonizing anything remotely left wing that there really is nowhere for voters to go outside the establishment that isn't some blend of nationalism, right wing populism and religiosity even if only as "a cultural/social bond".

I'm seriously pessimistic for the future both in the US and Europe. Trump will make things worse, the Democrat that will follow will solve none of the problems affecting the working class, then comes an even more radical "anti-establishment" right winger. Adjust for each country and then rinse and repeat until people vote for a straight out fascist and this whole "liberal democracy" experiment is over. I don't see how we can get out of this new cycle when no form of left wing solutions will ever be considered or allowed.

To be honest I was expecting something like this to happen ever since 2008, I just thought it would take maybe a decade and a half longer for us to reach this point, when it became impossible continue to hide the failure of the austerity policies in improving the living standards of the working class. No one was going to go along with their own impoverishment forever, that was always a given.
What I didn't count on was how much the refugee crisis and terrorist attacks would speed up this process. It's like the perfect storm of reactionary pressures.

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Dec 22, 2016

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Radish posted:

Yeah I was predicting this as well but thought it would be 2020-2024 before people finally decided that a Republican was the solution as the money slowly continued to be sucked out of the populace into the mega rich and neither party wanted to admit what the actual problem was. The idea that the Democrats could hold on to the presidency forever (while ignoring congress and the states) doomed us to this scenario. The refugee crisis really sped up this poo poo in Europe which makes America start thinking that we are next for the foreign hordes.

I was looking at 2030 before things really started to go to poo poo for no other reason than that was roughly how long it took for people in my country to vote for a dictator the last time the population found themselves in a similar political/economic quandary. There is a whole other dynamic at play nowadays the way reactionaries/nationalists can help each other in their respective countries while avoiding much of the friction that was inevitable when they actually had to sit at the same table. Memes and fake news are pretty much universal and coupled to the refugee powder keg I'm just dreading how long it will take before the first major terrorist attack against a mosque in Europe and we get the whole Iraqi-style retaliation party rolling. All it takes is one Breivik inspired motherfucker and the Islamic State will have a never ending supply of volunteers in Europe.

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 22, 2016

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
lol Trump actually bought that "the USSR collapsed because Reagan talked tough" rubbish. :smithicide:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

I mean, this is it, this is Freep's dream in the flesh. Someone whose foreign policy is idiotic bluster posturing as Strength. I don't think the reason there aren't many posters doubting is not because they're too embarrassed...

Watch Trump crater the Chinese/World economy and start a nuclear arms race with Russia.

e: hahaha, well if the world economy crashes it's going to bring down oil prices and give Trump an easy win in the arms race department against Russia

e2: poo poo, maybe that is the plan, trash the world economy and bet that when the dust settles down America may be worse but the rest of the world is completely hosed. Make American Great By Comparison Again!

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Dec 23, 2016

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


Just imagine those UN bureaucrats having to leave the luxury of the US for some hellhole in Eurabia. :haw:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
«The Romans learned that calling barbarians citizens only worked until the barbarians wanted to take over.»
- a person who knows gently caress all about the Roman Empire

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Most of the Emperors weren't even Italian, much less Roman. They actually meant all that bullshit "patriots" bitch about. If you were born in the Empire and managed to rise to the position no one gave a poo poo, what mattered was if you could deliver.
This isn't to paint Rome as some liberal utopia, it's just that once the Empire was done loving with your people and you were absorbed that was it, you didn't get poo poo for being a Gaul, a Thracian or a Libyan. Giving a poo poo would be a sign of dangerous divisionism. :commissar:

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Jan 6, 2017

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Don’t own property or have a job? No vote for you.

Welp, there goes the "geezer living in a retirement home" vote.

Good.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
The Danger of Delegitimizing Trump

There isn't an ironicat big enough for this thread. Anyway...



MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

SwitchbladeKult posted:

By "relatively active in the civil rights activities on campus" they most likely mean beating up protesters.

:thejoke:

That's not a fox hunting party.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


The plot thickens.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Oh god, Free Republic is down, the Obamacoup has begun!

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Smeep posted:

Freep's response to Trump's team officially saying he's not going to be releasing his tax returns is a nice preview of the next four years.

Donald Trump Will Not Release Tax Returns, White House Adviser Says

quote:

Tax return disclosure requests are a communist device to get people arguing over who should be paying taxes rather than the size of government, or how to increase tax revenues by private sector growth. Frightened Republicans usually cave in to such nonsense.


21 posted on 1/22/2017, 9:54:12 PM by Socon-Econ

quote:

The press plans to scrutinize PRESIDENT TRUMP’S taxes to see if he is ‘benefiting’ financially while serving as President - an impeachable offense. He should NEVER produce his tax records.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they were “accidentally” leaked to the press by a disgruntled (and well paid) IRS employee.


25 posted on 1/22/2017, 10:08:08 PM by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)



Drain the Swamp!

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Freepers: we WILL WIN!! and WIN and Win until we pass out from glee!!~

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Shugojin posted:

Yeah but it's not as good as when it was used unironically and unaltered.

Click the image to go to the thread, it wasn't ironic.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Hahaha, if you include Alaska that's like... what? 6 Mexico walls?

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

kik2dagroin posted:

It's just... something to see and have to personally endure :stare:

2016 we got on the bike



2017 the journey begins

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

SocketWrench posted:

Freepers aren't nazis though, not as much as they are old senile fucks full of bitterness from their life decisions panning out to nothing or just rabidly insane because our health system sucks at treating people. There's a huge huge difference between these cowardly, spiteful fucks blabbing on the internet and actual nazis out displaying their hateful poo poo in public.

What does the Bible really say about taking in Syrian refugees?

quote:

God told the Israelites to kill them all, or they would be trouble later...

10 posted on 1/30/2017, 6:05:32 PM by Ingtar (.)

Report: Quebec City Mosque shooter yelled, "Allahu Akbar"

quote:

Whoever did it, it was done to hit Trump if it was anti muslim.

Anyone see The Manchurian Candidate?

And YES, Canada and W Europe would give a dozen muslim lives to make Trump look bad.

If we know anything, these govts are capable of the MOST SINISTER things one can dream up.

An AK 47 in Canada? That’s no piece of cake. And Canada isn’t know for its RIGHT WING fanatics.

I had hoped for a peaceful transition to Trump’s presidency, but I fear the left is not as tolerable as we were after obama’s win.

Blood might still be spilled


Cause #### W Europe, #### Canada, #### the left in our country, #### msm, #### Mexico, #### soros and any other mother ####er who tries to defy the votes of the people of the US.

If necessary, we go medieval on their asses.


10 posted on 1/30/2017, 11:04:01 AM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

quote:

Bring ‘em All in,,,

For a Target Rich Environment?


39 posted on 1/30/2017, 12:18:45 PM by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Alexandre Bissonnette: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

quote:

They gonna Breivik this dude, big time!

22 posted on 1/31/2017, 12:34:52 AM by pluvmantelo (Boomer Presidents:The Grifter, The Midget & The Traitor. Hoping Trump is The Boss)

:ohdear:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Hahaha, this is loving awesome, half of it are people going from "Go Trump! Time to get rid of all the selfish leeches" to "Why u cut my mortgage benefits, this isn't why I voted for u :qq:".

Truly the only good government subsidy is my government subsidy.

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Freepers: needless to say I unfriended my own sister

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Hahaha :getin:

Trump puts brake on ‘client first’ fiduciary rule protecting retirees

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Couple calls it quits over Trump: Wounds still raw after bitter U.S. election











MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

robotsinmyhead posted:

Them calling for Martial Law is the most hilarious thing I've seen from FReep in a long time. 8 years scared shitless of Obama declaring it, and they're ready after THREE WEEKS of Trump. loving insanity.

Calling for Martial Law for the next 8 years. It would be hard to run an election during Martial Law anyway, I guess. :shrug:

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless


MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Nobody is right wing enough for Freep. The only correct answer to Freep is "more to the right." It is never, ever far enough.

Freep reminds me of an (apocryphal?) story about Ludwig von Mises I read many years ago. One day he wrote something so crazy that even his students/followers/colleagues/cultists started voicing opposition to it and he dismissed their concerns with "damned communists, the lot of them".


e: from wiki, I got the gist of it right

quote:

The story I remember best happened at the initial Mont Pelerin meeting when he got up and said, "You're all a bunch of socialists." We were discussing the distribution of income, and whether you should have progressive income taxes. Some of the people there were expressing the view that there could be a justification for it.

Another occasion which is equally telling: Fritz Machlup was a student of Mises's, one of his most faithful disciples. At one of the Mont Pelerin meetings, Machlup gave a talk in which I think he questioned the idea of a gold standard; he came out in favor of floating exchange rates. Mises was so mad he wouldn't speak to Machlup for three years. Some people had to come around and bring them together again. It's hard to understand; you can get some understanding of it by taking into account how people like Mises were persecuted in their lives.

:psyduck:


e2:

quote:

Mises was chief economist for the Austrian Chamber of Commerce and was an economic adviser of Engelbert Dollfuss, the austrofascist but strongly anti-Nazi Austrian Chancellor.[10] Later he was economic adviser to Otto von Habsburg, the Christian democratic politician and claimant to the throne of Austria (which had been legally abolished in 1918 following the Great War).[11] In 1934, Mises left Austria for Geneva, Switzerland, where he was a professor at the Graduate Institute of International Studies until 1940.
How can a single man endure so much persecution? :smithicide:

MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Feb 14, 2017

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Cythereal posted:

Scary part is, I hope Trump doesn't get impeached. President Mike Pence scares me a heck of a lot more than President Trump.

I've seen this sentiment repeated often but not being an American and not having followed the elections that close I must have missed something. What's up with Pence? Does he openly wear a swastika or something?

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Dec 23, 2004

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