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Amazing that the OP assumes rural poverty is a myth, and that the Obama recovery was somehow a boon to agricultural workers. Go gently caress yourself.
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Venom Snake and every other liberal idiot are those villagers from The Dying Earth who perceive everything through the idealized lens of the Overworld, when in reality they're wallowing in their own filth while putting on aristocratic airs.
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Nov 10, 2016 01:22
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Zikan posted:Since the party is effectively broken and leaderless, could a Jeremy Corbyn style takeover with the progressive caucus leading the charge with someone like Keith Ellison or Tulsi Gabbard succeed? Someone who just stands up and gives people someone to rally to by complete repudating CLintonism, who isn't perceived as from the Clintonite camp as Tim Kaine and the NoVa Dems? Or would there be too much backlash from the remaining Clintonites Is it too late to draft Kshama Sawant?
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Nov 10, 2016 01:50
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Socialism does not sell in the US. That's why the self-identified Socialist consistently outpolled both Clinton and Trump.
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Nov 10, 2016 01:59
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Millenials didn't Pokemon Go to the polls, but will they Digimon Go?
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Nov 10, 2016 02:33
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tao of lmao posted:readying myself for a John Stewart 2020 bid Campaigning on a message of Sanity didn't work
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Nov 10, 2016 02:39
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anime was right posted:that was an awful post and im sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07wZiqJlu3U
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Nov 10, 2016 02:40
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Not a Step posted:I mean, ideally the right amount of racism is 'none' but people seem to think focusing on class issues necessarily entails loving over minorities, while focusing on minority issues must necessarily entail loving over whites. its a drat shame we can only ever care about one thing at a time. Minorities don't have class status, silly. Their incomes are determined by background racism.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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Peel posted:realtalk: do not let the people who want to go in on racism win. you won't be able to out-racist the party of trump and you're telling your actual core (the expanding part of your coalition) to stay home as they have no place in america. plus you know, reinforcing white supremacy. Nobody is seriously going to consider pursuing a racist platform, except the unprincipled wonk idiots who got us into this mess in the first place.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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I think it's fair to say that the Secretary of State who got us into the worst Foreign Policy debacle of the Obama administration, and wanted to do even worse in Syria probably wouldn't have been a great president.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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Plank Walker posted:You can't tell people who are pissed off about an issue that, actually, things are getting better (even if it's true). It was absolutely not true. It was a recovery on paper, because the increased profit margins of corporate & finance capital don't actually affect the material conditions of the poor. In fact, it makes it worse when they have to accept work in a field where they earn less.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:09
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Yinlock posted:a lot of the bernie supporters were openly being accelerationist assholes after he lost, hence why they were known for wanting to tear everything down because they didn't get 100% of what they wanted immediately They were going to get 0% of what they wanted at all. I wonder if that ever became a pattern...
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Nov 10, 2016 03:41
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I still remember all the worst Hillarymen smugly asserting that they didn't have to grant any concessions to Bernie supporters because they lost, and should Deal With It, and the only sensible path forward was to court Neocon war criminals and moderate Republicans, only to have Democrats decisively vote more for Trump than the other way around.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:44
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Yinlock posted:ah yes, hillary supporters saying we should court the war criminal vote such as http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/12/1559556/-Hillary-Clinton-Touts-Endorsement-by-John-Negroponte-Reagan-s-Death-Squad-Ambassador
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Nov 10, 2016 03:51
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Guy DeBorgore posted:it's not that people hate her for being a woman, duh. they hate her for being "unlikeable" right? who can say why a bunch of coal miners and farmers found her "unlikeable." perhaps because she was too nakedly ambitious, or too shrill, or too cold? She literally threatened the livelihoods of coal miners, and tried to soothe them by promising a vague "aid" package, without ever clarifying what it would do.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:52
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Mrit posted:Back in 2006, I was angry. Angry at the Republicans, angry at the weakness of the Dems. I was hard left, and wanted to destroy the current government. This is the Come to Lenin moment I crave.
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Nov 10, 2016 04:13
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Mrit posted:I'm loving pissed and feel like a giant idiot for being duped these last 8 years. I gotta say, you and Hamprince have been surprisingly sensible about all this. Rats off to ya.
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Nov 10, 2016 04:18
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HannibalBarca posted:It could have worked, but the campaign seemed reluctant to provide actual specifics on what a continuation of the Obama presidency meant. The Dems never seemed to make a coherent argument on the issues. We all saw the same Clinton ads over and over again of little kids looking at Trump on the TV, or whatever. And all those ads did nothing but ensure that we'll all be seeing Trump on the TV for a long time to come. Ah yes, this tested extremely well with the Helen Lovejoy demographic
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Nov 10, 2016 04:22
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If Democrats are going to swing hard to the left, then they may want to consider courting Rocky Anderson as a 2020 nominee. He was a highly accomplished attorney, and as Democratic mayor of Salt Lake City he championed multiple progressive causes, including restorative justice and an end to the war on drugs. When he ran for president on the Justice Party ticket in 2012 they had an extremely dope platform which was pro-campaign finance reform, financial transaction taxes, green jobs, wanted to strengthen the EPA, expand Social Security, end wars of aggression, repeal the PATRIOT Act, and so on. The guy was Bernie before the general public could conceive of one, only nobody knew about him because he ran as a third party. He'll also be 69 (nice) in 2020. I know it's a longshot, but I'm trying to spitball options for the future here.
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Nov 10, 2016 04:36
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I think enough time has passed to talk about how scapegoating Russia and painting Trump as an agent of the Kremlin was a dumb idea.
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Nov 10, 2016 04:59
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Venom Snake posted:he was absolutely russia's candidate of choice dude There is a distinct difference between being Putin's favorite for promising better relations with Russia, and being a Siberian Candidate waiting for the keyphrase to activate Trump and transform him into loyal Biznismen. Even Tom the Dancing Bug ran a stupid rear end cartoon portraying Trump as a willing agent of Moscow.
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Nov 10, 2016 05:07
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Nov 10, 2016 05:08
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There's a poetic irony in campaigning on Trump being an FSB asset, because now Democrats are the Russian Communist Party.
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Nov 10, 2016 05:11
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Typo posted:this is coming full circle Don't forget, the Americans helped Yeltsin cover up massive electoral fraud which helped him steal the election from the Communists in 1996, and that's why Putin is in charge now.
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Nov 10, 2016 05:16
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Yinlock posted:i think we should at least TRY to have unity instead of immediately eating ourselves, though i am also guilty of this and apologize You're gonna be a socialist and support universal public healthcare, and you're gonna like it. We're gonna draft 4-Year plans to conquer burgers & feed the hungry, and you're gonna love it. There's going to be re-education camps for the libs and conservatives, with weed, and booze, and everybody gets laid! YOU'RE GONNA BEG TO BE RE-EDUCATED
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Nov 10, 2016 08:34
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I've been away from Party HQ for too long and I'm coming down with a cough. Maybe some colloidal silver will cure what ails me...
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Nov 10, 2016 08:39
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Strep Vote posted:It's okay man. It's over now. For 2 months anyway, lmao.
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Nov 10, 2016 08:42
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Not a Step posted:I think the issue with that is basically everyone on the left knew Clinton was lying through her teeth about that platform and would never do poo poo with it. It was yet another cynical triangulation. Clinton spent the entire primary campaigning on pragmatism and how change is impossible and barely scrabbling to maintain the status quo is the best we can hope for. People didn't forget that poo poo just because she put her name on Bernie's platform. She could have just kept a lot of her original platform and still squeaked out a win, but she never campaigned on it. It was all historic female presidency, and continuity of Obama, and do the whip & nae nae. Turns out people don't really care about your policies if you never loving talk about it. Most people don't care enough to go to a website and accept at face value that you're sincere about all your planks.
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Nov 10, 2016 08:44
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Venom Snake posted:It wasn't her a lot of the times, she was just a push over in believing she needed to be polite instead of going all in on gently caress THE GOP ILL KILL EM ALL FOR YOU. You can't convince people you will be change if you act like a nice old lady She acted like a reptile in a skinsuit, approximating human speech patterns. The only time she seemed genuine was during the debates.
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Nov 10, 2016 08:49
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Venom Snake posted:No she did not. She acted like a nice grandma which sucks. She should have acted like she did when she was first lady. "gently caress off I'm not making cookies" Hmm, is your grandma hot or cold blooded?
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Nov 10, 2016 08:52
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LEna, i MAY not be one of the GIRLS - but i WILL be, THE GIRL
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Nov 10, 2016 08:52
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Venom Snake posted:Well I am a snake 
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Nov 10, 2016 08:53
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mrmcd posted:Like literally today I saw some bullshit on Facebook with the headline "Voting third party is the height of white privilege." It's also the most easily debunked bullshit ever this year.
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Nov 10, 2016 08:56
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Venom Snake posted:both third parties suck poo poo. they don't get a free pass because hillary jobbed it. but she doesn't get a pass because of third parties Gary Johnson voters helped her carry several states, lmao. This wasn't a total electoral blowout or popular Trump victory BECAUSE OF THIRD PARTIES
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Nov 10, 2016 08:58
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Venom Snake posted:i didn't say it was. gary can suck my johnson either way It is just weird as gently caress that you think third parties "don't get a pass" even though they were inconsequential to the outcome of this election.
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Nov 10, 2016 09:03
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mrmcd posted:Supporting Hillary in the primary is probably my biggest loving regret this year. I didn't think Sanders' goals were realistic and was totally fine with more Obama-esque competent governing on the executive knowing Congress isn't going to do poo poo as a D is in the Whitehouse. I told y'all a politics of "realism" was poo poo and you didn't believe me! YOU SHOULD HAVE BELIEVED ME!!!
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Nov 10, 2016 09:04
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Barbe Rouge posted:The politics of "realism" aren't poo poo, the problem is when you fail to realize what the reality actually is. Reality can be shaped according to ideology, this is basic stuff. Republicans never gave a poo poo about what was "realistic" and now they have overwhelming control of almost every hall of power. You don't win big by being conservative and smothering your own imagination of what's possible.
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Nov 10, 2016 09:09
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Fidel Castronaut posted:I don't know if more youth employment in dem campaigns would mean more or less "YAASSSS QUEEEN" crap. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad slogan if we were applying it to people who are not 70 and super super white. The Clinton campaign ruined the whole phrase. Just like when white people started using "-izzle"
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Nov 10, 2016 09:11
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Venom Snake posted:Libertarians and greens loving blow and I don't care if they get 10 votes or 10 million votes. I don't disagree, but I'll also give them a pass because they actually didn't matter.
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Zo posted:VS I just lurk cspam but your own countless number of disparaging posts, laced with hubris and arrogance, making GBS threads on any and all leftists not blindly drinking the Hillary koolaid made a lot of threads bad and over time i went from laughing at trump to hoping you'd lose, so i just hope you reflect on your own actions as well because while I'm just an rear end in a top hat you seem to actually want a good government. Well that's a shame because Hillary's administration would not be.
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