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ThndrShk2k posted:Hot Autopsy Take: Hot Reflection Take: We are the reflection of the Media As the media is a reflection of ourselves Bouncing forever into the Post-Reality gaze of the Infinity Mirror plane. We are all holograms.  The Truthful One's Gaze Locks With The Untruthful One.  You can hear the whispers pick up and swirl around your ears as your eyes bleed upon this horror until finally a voice eeks out, as clear as the mirrors themselves "Bullsh*t!"
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Nov 10, 2016 02:57
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KiteAuraan posted:present a unified populist vision to people moving forward. highlight that it is the forces of global capitalism that have failed them, that the jobs they want, high paying manufacturing jobs, are never coming back, that unless they accept a hellfucked environment and $1.00 a day wages they will never have a textile factory in south carolina again. highlight how Trump is a loving liar, how he promised them something he can't deliver, how he is NOT their voice, he just lies to them for power and prestige. hammer hard on how he and the republicans are failing them. use the mass support for minimum wage increases (an increase to $12 an hour passed in loving arizona, goddamn) to highlight how the republicans want to take that away from them, and they'll have to fight with vote and union to stop them. show them that Trump is the very jetsetting global elite that is loving them and that it is not the workers of the developing world who are ruining them, those are just poor souls even more hosed by the elite than they. give them data and info in a digestible form about the Koch brothers, the capitalists, the bankers and multinational global elites, who live in the united states, but are not their saviors or their allies. tell them that coal is dead globally, the price is never going to rise, that you may have work but it will be for below-poverty wages with little to no safety. offer them hope from that in government programs to retrain, and if they can't retrain, a GMI to let them live comfortably. sell it as coming from higher taxes on the us-based global capitalist that is ruining them. do that and you'll get back the people who split for Trump, you'll wide the wave and gently caress it, you will goddamn try. The question was, did you want some straws for your soda cup? (try to use less words in C-SPAM to make your points, thanks.)
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Nov 10, 2016 03:42
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Mrit posted:Back in 2006, I was angry. Angry at the Republicans, angry at the weakness of the Dems. I was hard left, and wanted to destroy the current government. DNC's gotta go fam Debbie WS is the worst and her pitiful attempt at trying to stay in power after the leaks came out in July during the Convention was just a low and disturbingly sad but also lol at their sheer unadulterated incompetence and obvious, blatant attempt at corralling the advantage for Clinton. So much for being impartial~  
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Nov 11, 2016 01:08
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"excoriating bernie supporters during the primary seemed like a good idea at the time, wait why are you victimizing me" 
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Nov 11, 2016 01:09
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This reminds me of how vigorously zoux accused me of being a sexist for making the obviously objectively true statement that Hillary got to this point because she was an influential First Lady. I find it pretty hard to see her as part of the feminist movement because she is way more entrenched with the elites. Her status is well above working class people who have to deal with sexual harassment or racism on a daily basis or even frustration for not being able to have a meal on their plate for dinner and it showed through out her campaigning, having private dinners and 500 dollar tickets to see her speak etc. We can appreciate the fact that thirdwayism is completely dead and its time for a democrat populist movement, speaking of which https://twitter.com/politico/status/796798355896758272  I hope they consider his opinion instead of bringing Howard Dean back on board because he's pretty insider and it won't represent the leadership the DNC needs right now after the DNC pretty much strongarmed people and padded Clinton's nomination to her favor. While yes, some people were pretty smug about it, I'll ask you to try not to incite some lovely flamewar over some grudge. The election craze will die down and C-SPAM will have some changes, so please consider this moving forward. The hill-bots are thoroughly owned, this much is evident and after a year of twisting the knives and smugly dismissing your opinions, I can understand the sentiment but don't let that devolve the topic thanks in advance~
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Nov 11, 2016 02:20
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Any Hillaryman shall be forgiven if they Come to Lenin and accept Karl Marx as their lord & savior. Lol I mean, yea I get it. It's just something I want you to keep in mind when the dust begins to settle is that this is C-SPAM. So once all the racism concern trolling and gbs and d&d leave after they finish their round of gloating etc and there are no more electionchat. The difference here that I'm letting you know is to not post like D&D about it, otherwise you might as well just post in D&D imo and we wouldn't really need C-SPAM. Keep it casual friend. and definitely don't whine about primaries, it's november freakin 10th~ (I even voted for Bernie) Do complain about the DNC though, thats on them~ Better yet, make fun of them. 
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Cyron posted:one of the threads in C-spam is already scaring me, people are talking about buying guns and saying trump will commit genocide. someone is also going insane. i think the dems are already preparing for their grave. which one, everything is a mess rn 
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Nov 11, 2016 03:37
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Cyron posted:dude i have a mental disability too and i am scared, please don't just sit in your filth waiting for the death wragon. this sucks but we can make though this. if you are talking about Our Long National Nightmare 2016-?: Zack rips the DNC a new rear end in a top hat thread it's ironic nihilism, don't read too much into it, its part of a subculture of posters who have been posting in here for a year In fact you might want to decompress for a while, go walk. Play a game, treat yourself to something (yesterday I went and got a strawberry banana milkshake and I don't do that), go read a book. Go outside. Turn off the TV, turn off this forum. If it's not that thread, then you need to tell me what thread it is to make sure that there isn't plotting for violence, thank you.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:55
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Higgy posted:Hey...woah.. 
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Weeping Wound posted:It is a good post that deserves your attention! Here, let's bring it up for this page: I mean I get it, for now everyone's hysterical but this is way too D&D jesvs Mcdonalds, meltdown etc. [D&Dishly] Ahem, my good sir you make a salient point, but actually you are wrong because this is a populist movement in America and we will continue our fight on, and allow me to preface this by stating why... Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 04:18 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 04:15
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bump_fn posted:counterpoint: goddamit  i knew i was confused for a moment [stumbles out of the door]
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Nov 11, 2016 04:19
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Fullhouse posted:people posting literally constantly about their crew is stupid cliquish nonsense that belongs in anime chat threads and nowhere else counterpoint: Nite crew culture is pretty terrible and will inevitably metastasize into the cancer that kills this subforum. The one downside to the HillShill Toxx Amnesty is that it didn't permanently remove them. Not a Step stepped on loving rake after me trying explain to this poster to not worry about it and get some air and some perspective because he's some weird bitter person who continues to harp on this for months, while yes he makes some good points but he can stand to leave the D&D at the door. There are going to be new rules incoming and he's not gonna gel with that either  I do take note of this grievance and I do want threads to be somewhat on topic and this will be sorted out when the dust settles, but Not A Step picked up a rock and threw it at me. Please, just carry on. For your sake. Pener Kropoopkin posted:Define "D&Dishly" please. Whatever Not A Step did. It's a casual subforum (seriously, read the subtext), don't make a bunch of paragraphs and smugly circle jerk over it and get into flamewars, otherwise there is D&D right over there.
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Nov 11, 2016 04:27
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Cyron posted:it was Our Long National Nightmare 2016-?: Zack rips the DNC a new rear end in a top hat, i always had a issue with sarcasim on the internet. Ok, thank you. I'm sorry you got it mixed up, don't worry. I promise you, most of it comes from mocking people doomsaying the entire election so it has picked up on its own. It's not serious and half the time people were drunk doing this (still are) That sounds like an excellent idea, I hope you have fun  Do check back when this subforum gets formalized, it will be a lot more calmer if you want to participate in the discussions. There will probably be more generalized topics that isn't about elections.
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Nov 11, 2016 04:31
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Rand alPaul posted:When is :bernget: coming back?  I'll look into it when things calm down. Thank you for reminding me, namaste.
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Nov 11, 2016 04:33
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Atrocious Joe posted:Bobby Mook is the name of a Star Wars character that fucks up planning a rebel assualt lmbo
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Nov 11, 2016 04:48
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Cyron posted:ya, i think i will ignore politics for a week and focus on self health and family, but this thread have been fantastic, it kind of serve as a sort of a calming tool that is not going panic mode. i wouldn't mind a politic forum where it more like a cobeart report and not a last week at john oliver of D&D. That is actually a good suggestion, I will talk to the mods about that too! Please do take care of your mental health, it's just as important as physical health! e: Ed Balls
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Nov 11, 2016 05:05
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Lawman 0 posted:This election has broken and changed me in new and exciting ways. very accurate. also just gave me a great idea for c-spam background maybe and then they will call Bernie... the Real Deal
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Nov 11, 2016 05:37
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squidgee posted:wait is c spam not sticking around? that'd be a shame, because d&d is bad these days, and c spam is good. It will be sticking around, there will be new rules and guidelines. Hilario Baldness posted:Democratic Party Autopsy Thread: Et tu, Rust Belt? I dig this~ 
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Nov 11, 2016 06:26
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:loving really? Government run plants to build solar panels and windmills, or government run research labs and local clinics are gonna be asbestos filled hellholes? That's your loving retort to the federal government giving shat on poor people jobs? Simple. Republicans. Lobbyists. 
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Nov 11, 2016 07:11
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Vox Nihili posted:lol even colbert condemned hillary for immediately rolling over and saying give trump a chance, holy poo poo It's a mess. 
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Nov 11, 2016 07:17
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Larry Parrish posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I don't think coastal middle class democrats understand the struggle, except maybe gays since that's a minority that tends to cross class lines. Nah, you're right. It's classic "America is Too Big". Everyone from the city life and rural lives live in their own bubbles so its hard to cross the gap and find commonality when they are fighting each other to put different national priorities in the queue while congress does gently caress all about it. Social or Economy, it goes back and forth.
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Exinos posted:Please God, no more loving Clinton's in politics. America is tired establishment bullshit and a few families trying to be political dynasties. Nice meltdown.
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Nov 11, 2016 07:31
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Al! posted:turns out hate won, congratulations you were right!!!!! c'est la vie~  e:  snipe
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Nov 11, 2016 07:35
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Al! posted:i loved (checks notes) miss misery? that can't be right i gotta have a deeper cut than that If ye aint on tha X/O spvn fam idk what tae say
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Nov 11, 2016 07:41
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Al! posted:this is probably the best elliott smith song tho its not my favorite i see yer condor ave an i raise ye a Waltz #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhR_ep90ac
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Princess Di posted:Both. Support those downtickets then, and have a better progressive DNC~ Howard Dean bad because he has lobbyist friends and big pharma~ Al! posted:a classic solid picks fam im glad elliot smith is going to be dnc chair
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Al! posted:more lib unpreparedness, a bic lighter would have done the job twice as easily h*ck i wouldve used a blowtorch meself im jvst that dedic8'd 
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Larry Parrish posted:also holy poo poo I'm so tried of the white guys in this thread acting like racism is inherent to whites or something. Racism is not simply a product of upbringing or a small area dominated by a single culture. Which is why we are probating the race baiting~ It's dumb and bad. Which is why this was a pretty solid post on the racism, even though it's a bit wordy for C-SPAM, it was a good effort post that wasn't a crazy rant that doesn't result in me having to ask if Jenner wanted fries with that. I agree because I talked with my mom about it, she had a pretty good insight, since she's a school principal, in a semi rural area where she has to commute from a bigger town. About a 40 minute drive. So she knows whats going on, but she's an educated liberal in a sea of rednecks lol So if people keep thinking if its economic anxiety or racism, the answer is both. You can make the jokes about "wow that sure is some economic anxiety" as a dogwhistle for racism, which is partially true for some, but you can't be completely dismissive of the fact that they are really concerned about their livelihood. Their towns are dying, and their infrastructures are crumbling and they are not equipped to just move away and find new jobs because they don't have the education. They're stuck there, angry and forgotten so yea, racism is going to get into the fold because why? The republicans are telling them who's at fault and they are so ignorant and sheltered that they cannot see that they're being swindled, all they can do is desperately put their hopes on trump. Thats where the racism comes from, they feel like their livelhood is at stake because republicans are going, oh its the blacks, oh its the muslims, and the republicans are going to run out of excuses very shortly once they have finished pumping the middle class bone dry out of their money.
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crazy cloud posted:rip neoliberalism, hail satan in loving shallah
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I'm going to remind you guys not to regress into primary chat as a warning. I see some posts about it and I could've dropped some hammers right off. It's November 11th. C-SPAM has survived primaries, it was called the Molten Salt Reactor for a while because it got so lovely and bad about primaries so it's probably best to leave specifics of the primaries out. It loving sucks, it sucks the fun out and people get crazy worked up over it. The safest way to probably discuss the primaries as part of the DNC Autopsy would be better left off as a never talk about again~ Hillary won it, superdelgates etc. We get it. We KNOW. It doesn't change a thing. Literally what Bernie has said a few days ago, "We are going to move forward and see how we can win things now." Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 19:49 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Zoran posted:I don't think we need to spend time discussing rigging or chair-throwing or whatever, but the case that Bernie was a better candidate absolutely does need to be litigated. No arguments there whatsoever, voted for him  Just don't get specific and salty about "we should've, could've. If it weren't for the superdelegates and wah wah wah and it's the stupid neoliberals fault." Yea, we get it. That's why Keith Ellison is being tapped and Chuck Schumer just backed him because he wants to survive~ I understand it's an autopsy, you can explore all the faucets that are wrong, like superdelegates good/bad? but don't bring up the primaries as an example and go "this is why bernie should've won, idiots.", it will go downhill, I promise that. That's why we just kick you in the teeth for it for a little while. Been hearing about it incessantly for a year, seriously. 
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Unless Bernie runs in 2020 I don't give a hot gay gently caress of how good/better he is at running a campaign. It is a pretty thin line which is why I suggest that it's better left off and you move forward. But if you have to bring up something, it better be really loving good (it's not gonna be good and you're gonna eat that 6'er.)
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squidgee posted:Thank you guys for putting this together. Maybe we can get it in the OP? Not a bad idea but the OP is pretty wordy and its more about examining what went wrong and what's going to happen I feel. You can definitely make a thread for it though! I think it has enough merit to focus on how to get involved, and what you can do to help etc as a bullet point in that new thread op instead.
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