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Bad Moon posted:I got some Bandai Star Wars for Xmas and I am looking forward to putting them together. The Star Destroyer is small enough I can put it on my office desk without it being too gaudy! Thanks for letting me know those Bandai models were a thing. Those look fantastic.
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Captain Rufus posted:http://wargamedork.blogspot.com/2016/12/operation-game-collection-star-wars.html It's always been sad to me that people don't realize West End Games created Star Wars. Lucas had literally nothing fleshed out that wasn't directly in the three movies at the time.
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Dec 30, 2016 12:41
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Atlas Hugged posted:Honestly I don't see that as a bad thing. It's been in the fleshing out of Star Wars that it got truly terrible. There's a huge difference between the D6 RPG that WEG created and the terrible EU novels that tried to expand beyond it though.
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Dec 30, 2016 13:31
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Yvonmukluk posted:Apparently Sam Witwer actually gave Dave Filoni his old WEG sourcebooks when they were working together on Clone Wars. I'm like 60% certain that provided a great deal of the template for Rebels. As in, they statted up the characters and the cartoon is just an animated reconstruction of their RPG campaign. Yeah, it's insane to think of how much they created. Lucas had no alien names that weren't specifically spoken, no planet names, no corporations/models of equipment, no galaxy maps, nada. Most of what people consider 'Star Wars' like Hutts and Twi'leks and Corellian Engineering YT-1300 transports all came from WEG.
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Dec 30, 2016 14:05
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Yvonmukluk posted:Mind you they did make some errors, I think - like almost every alien race being defined by the one example of their species that showed up in the movies - i.e. all Rodians are bounty hunters, all Hutts are gangsters... True, though what the Republic and Empire consider "crime lords" is the officially recognized legitimate government of Hutt space. There's definitely a caricature happening but even the Hutts were pretty varied on opinions about galactic politics, with some aiding the Rebellion. I've got a soft spot for the Hutts though, my main campaign I ran back in the day was in Hutt space. Nar Shadda is just too awesome.
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Dec 30, 2016 15:09
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Atlas Hugged posted:That's fine, but if you look at what are considered the "good" movies over the last 20 years, it's either a rehash or a mediocre war film without any characters. There's just not much to the Star Wars universe. RedLetterMedia made a really great point when they said that despite how big the galaxy supposedly is, there's just not much you can do with it. Saying there isn't much to it or much you can do with it makes it painfully obvious that you're not familiar with the WEG RPG sources we were talking about.
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Dec 31, 2016 14:52
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fnordcircle posted:The things you like are stupid and shallow but the things I like are deep and important. Yeah well as a nihilist the things I like are also stupid but yours are even more stupid if that's even possible. You should be impressed by my edginess but I won't care either way.
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Dec 31, 2016 19:38
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Avenging Dentist posted:Alien definitely isn't the most artistically meaningful film ever made but unlike Star Wars, there is at least some social commentary happening. Dan O'Bannon specifically designed the alien to invoke imagery of "homosexual oral rape" as a reaction against horror/exploitation films of the time that depicted women being raped as a way of getting tits on the screen. There's a lot of undertones of Buddhist philosophy in the Jedi, but I guess that pales in comparison to some guy deciding HR Giger's creepy horror painting could be a gay face rape defiance of titties in slasher flicks that no one would ever correlate to anything, ever.
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Dec 31, 2016 19:55
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Avenging Dentist posted:No, and I like the first two Star Wars movies. They're really good! But there's nothing particularly valuable about the universe (artistically speaking; it's obviously extremely financially valuable). In the movies, it's really just some broad strokes about an evil space Empire and a plucky group of Rebels fighting them. You don't need to know who manufactured the Millennium Falcon or how hyperspace works or even what's happening on some random planet in the galaxy; what matters is watching Luke and friends grow as people and overcome adversity. You could set the story anywhere and it'd work just fine. The point was neither are high art, because that's not their intended purpose. Sometimes the only point in telling a story is to simply tell a story. As for more stories in the Star Wars universe, since I played the WEG RPG back in the day, I'm excited for anything they want to make. There's a lot of rich world building to draw on that goes far beyond the Galactic Civil War that they have never scratched the surface with cinematically.
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Dec 31, 2016 20:21
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Halloween Jack posted:I agree with your general point, but China hegemonizing an economically depressed Japan and Korea is a much more sensible future China than pretty much anything else I've seen in a tabletop game. (The revival of the Party and the Imperial throne, not so much. Why do game designers think Chinese people really really want an Emperor and Neo-Neo-Confucianism?) I always thought the fact that people in Firefly that left Earth speak English and Chinese was a pretty realistic representation of the future.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Maybe if they used Chinese for anything except US-Censor friendly cursing That indeed would have made it even more realistic but it would have also made for lovely television. Compromises have to be made.
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Jan 5, 2017 00:01
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Bad Moon posted:Ha! Nice try! Yeah, fool me once.
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This is why Firefly would've sucked if they had used Chinese for more than swear words.
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Jan 5, 2017 16:46
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Chill la Chill posted:Miniatures game. Imperial assault got FFG in hot water because they came too close to a board game something or other. Hasbro is the only company allowed to make Star Wars board games. FFG told Hasbro that IA was a miniature skirmish game, and they told GW it was a board game. Neither of them bought their bullshit and Hasbro got a cut of their Star Wars board game sales and the relationship with GW got further soured.
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Jan 7, 2017 17:41
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MikeCrotch posted:Who gave GW money?!?! fess up Guilty. I still like hanging out with you guys though.
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Jan 11, 2017 14:46
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:your punishment is to have less money and more GW products Seems heavy-handed, but I'll accept responsibility for my actions.
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Jan 11, 2017 15:22
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LashLightning posted:I just remembered that Dreadnoughts had a near-dead Marine unturred in them - have enough Primus Marines (or whatever these new dudes are called) died already for them to make new 'noughts or are these regular dead Marines in new 'noughts? The size of the coffin looks the same as a normal dread, so I assume it's existing marines in a new walker.
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May 31, 2017 01:55
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Avenging Dentist posted:I would bet a modest sum of money that those are dreads for bigmarines. Undoubtedly they want the scale to match, but it looks like a normal sarcophagus, which would make sense since a BigMarine isn't going to have a Super Huge Primaris brain requiring a different box.
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May 31, 2017 02:09
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TheChirurgeon posted:Part of that is the insistence on printing bigass hardcover books. I'm hoping they go softcover with releases this edition for that exact reason. Are the codex and rule books also printed in the U.K. like the Black Library stuff? I always assumed that accounted for at least a small part of the GW tax since they're not reaping the sweet send-all-this-poo poo-to-China savings.
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TheChirurgeon posted:I have no idea. Though it's not as though $50-60 is well above market value for full-color hardcover nerdgame rulebooks with 100+ pages. I don't think GW is significantly overcharging for those comparatively, they should just do softcover because it's cheaper and easier to transport No I agree, that's pretty par for course on price for their production quality. I wait for softcover in just about everything to save money and also because hardcovers are a pain in the rear end in every day use anyway.
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