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GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
My hot take, the PNW is better than non-PNW sections of the US because we didn't vote for Trump, thus proving our moral and intellectual superiority for all time fart

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GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
How about in Seattle?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Rules.

I went to the Emergency rally/march, it didn't seem especially well organized, and needed a better megaphone, but was a pretty good showing for how quickly it was put together.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Mr. Lobe posted:

You were at the rally too? I had to man a table but it was interesting how the people started marching without waiting for the organizers to tell them to march or whatever. I admire their initiative and consider it rather poor planning on the part of the organizers to have overloaded the event with too much talking and not enough demonstration.

I was wondering what was going on with that. I stayed to listen to the speakers, and then the small crowd that hadn't left marched down to Pike Place Market, no idea where everyone else went.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
I've donated to the medical fund, but is there anything we can do to get that fucker charged, or suspended or anything?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Is this a serious post?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

coyo7e posted:

hey, if you wanna throw out easily-laughable falsehoods I'll just throw a link to the civil war at you.

Or did you forget how conservatives still make a point to try and blame democrats for slavery whenever they can get away with it? Maybe you're just too precious to realize that parties flip sometimes..? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVS24wqgeEM

Are you... arguing that democrats are going to try to secede from the union because they did back before the parties switched sides? Because that argument makes no sense, and is bad. Which is why I was doubting that was a serious post.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
What is this MRE thing, did I miss a page of this thread or something?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

Gross. There is a pro Trump rally in Oly on the 4th and the MAGAs are planning on 'packing heat' to protect themselves from 'violent liberals' this is how the civil war starts, not trump, not bannon, these idiots in the streets believing fake news and shooting unarmed activists.

Sorry, going to pull a coyo7e and ask for a source on this one, I put up a warning and some idiots I know are losing their minds about the lack of citation and I'd dearly love to shut them up with a link.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Doorknob Slobber posted:




wanted to include these here for other people to see

Thanks for these. They'll probably just shift goalposts but it's useful to have for people who aren't arguing in bad faith either way.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Senor P. posted:

It is basically a non-profit that provides services to the dis-advantaged and also provides a homeless camp, from what I understand.

What happens when more people hear about it, come to Portland, and overwhelm the system?

Senor P. posted:

There is only a couple of immediate solutions to this. One is you start rounding people up. Two you have home owners 'volunteer' to build a small 1 bedroom flat in their back yard.

The first is not morally acceptable. The second people are'nt going to want to have some weirdo wee-a-boo living with them.

gently caress no! If I wanted to live in Oregon or Idaho, I'd move there. Property taxes and utility costs have gone up considerably in the area I live in. Yall can pass a Seattle/Tacoma tax if you want.

Wow I don't think I've ever seen someone establish themselves as a complete shithead so fast before.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Senor P. posted:

Seeing as how I paid approximately 20% of that in federal tax, I don't think it is an issue.

Why should I pay the same tax when I work over time? (Before I moved I was routinely worked 60-70 hours a week for the last 2 years.) Compared to some techie yuppie that works in Seattle?

Why should I pay X% or more in state tax?
-I live on the East side, I deal with my local issues. Seattle can deal with theirs.
-Taxing people more does not seem to have California's problems. How will it solve Washingtons?
-Utilities costs have regularly gone up. Raises have not.

If they want to raise taxes, they can raise the sales tax or raise the gas tax.

You just get worse and worse holy poo poo.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

Error 404 posted:

Put this in the op tia

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
what the gently caress

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

quote:

Strickland decided against allowing a jury to rule on his case after it became clear during jury selection that many potential jurors were critical of guns and people who use them for purposes other than hunting.

lmao

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

George posted:

Murray emailed city employees today that he's not seeking reelection. This just got real interesting.

All aboard the Nikkita Oliver train!

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

Glad to see you agree.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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libertyhangout.org posted:

Thank you for visiting Liberty Hangout, the leading voice for peace, prosperity, and property rights.

Featuring such highlights as a banner selling Communism Isn't Cool and Stalin killed 4x more than Hitler T-Shirts and Taxation is Theft Baseball Caps.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

That Cooperpoint Journal article posted:

Douvia, despite recent controversy, attended this gathering, attempting to make a statement about individualism before being asked to leave.

lmao

this person (who also posted the libertyhangout.org garbage) definitely seems like the one to trust here

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

Senor P. posted:

Never is good. A civil war would economically cripple the United States plus there are things like how the hell all of our bombed out poo poo isgoing to get re-built. If you want to make a difference, get into politics.

Pretty much all countries I can remember that have had recent civil wars have wound up being hosed. (South Sudan, Angola, Congo, Thailand, China, etc). South Korea and Vietnam might be an exception due to how much money was injected into their economies but it still took.... 30-40 years to recover.

You want to go sacrifice what others are already putting down just to eek out a living for the next generation? Their own kids?

If you truly think civil war is the answer, I don't know what else to say.

Yeah we should let police and nazis terrorize and kill people who disagree with them politically because heaven forbid we economically cripple the united states! Forget about all the people living in poverty while working multiple full time jobs, we can't risk the poor middle class homeowners prosperity!

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
Yelling at idiots in these the something awful forums might not be advancing the revolution but it is a good way to relieve some stress which is vital for a good revolutionary. You need not spend every moment on overthrowing the capitalist pigs.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

ElCondemn posted:

So what we can learn from this? If you're white and want to be violent you can do so and win, but if you're brown and you're non-violent you lose. Which I guess is being reflected in this thread, trying to justify our current way of life as if it can't be changed without the death of countless people or the rise of an even worse regime.

I just don't understand why we can't have a functioning society, did other socialist democracies have to have a violent revolution to get where they're at? What's the history in places like Sweden and Norway? I'm sure they weren't always like that, why can't we move in that direction? Why are some of you so adamant about preserving the status quo? I guess life is probably pretty good for you, so much that you're willing to just accept that hundreds of people are being killed by police each year and that families are going hungry and into debt because they can't afford access to healthcare and other basic services.

Letter from Birmingham Jail By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Peachfart posted:

Oregon drools, Washington rules.
Also every assumption in your post is wrong, which is impressive.

A peacefart post I... agree with????

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Teabag Dome Scandal posted:

yo it's hella rude when I have to stop at a roundabout because those dicks already in the circle aren't yielding to me the person that is actually supposed to be yielding

actually they're called Traffic Circles here

e: (poo poo was that this thread or the Seattle thread that had a long argument about that?)

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Reene posted:

real glad I don't drive rn

I just have to deal with heat stroke in the summer and hypothermia in the winter as I play the "will the bus arrive?" game

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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ElCondemn posted:

Better than playing the 300/mo just to park game, really doesn't seem reasonable to drive to me.

and the drivers insurance poo poo, ya

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.
gently caress the police, hth

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

ElCondemn posted:

Because they are cops and their reaction and training is to kill when they feel afraid.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.
you know there are tasers that you can use from a distance, like a gun, that does not kill them, and you don't have to worry about being cut by the person because they are at a distance, as if you had used a gun, but used a taser, which didn't kill them.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

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Peachfart posted:

I personally don't care if the rich rear end in a top hat loving me is from the USA or not. I'm still getting hosed.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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Mr. Lobe posted:

Why not both!

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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wouldn't a non-citizen tax hit illegal immigrants pretty hard?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
yeah maybe people who can afford to spend 5-10k a year on home improvement aren't the only kind of person you bougie dumbass

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.
I don't know if this is a well known Portland place but thought it might interest the oregoons

https://twitter.com/maylor_torris/status/884845108398391296

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

My favorite thing about this is the final two bits of this version. It's so good.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.

uber for cops, what the gently caress is this evil bullshit

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
We can secede when the US splits apart into 20 different countries

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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therobit posted:

Yes I guess the real problem is allowing private property and contracts. The state should own everything and determine where you live and work.

This but unironically

Cactrot posted:

Man, you mean investment has unforseen risks? Dang, sorry for your lots.

:golfclap:

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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And we dress in black.

man you'd be coming off a lot better if you didn't keep saying poo poo like

FantasticExtrusion posted:

It's hypocritical to welcome everyone, even homeless heroin addicts, but to say to someone who picked themselves up and pays the rent: "you're garbage."

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GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

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