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Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

vulturesrow posted:

Today was my last day of doing Navy stuff. Terminal leave starts Monday...feels weird man.

Congrats man. I got out almost a year ago (went on terminal in May). Currently in school, starting my job as an engineer in June working on DOD/Navy stuff but it will be R&D focused.

It takes some getting used to. Since all of my friends are still in sometimes it's hard to detach yourself from the service. Whenever I talk to my friends it's nothing but SWO talk. And they're reaching a point where they are fully drinking the kool aide (the 5+ YCS mark) Not gonna lie, on some days I was regretting getting out but overall I'm happy with my decision. It's good that you have a job lined up right away, because that's gonna give you a purpose. Being in school has been challenging since it's been hard for me to take it seriously and the other students are hard to relate to.

Howard Phillips fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Apr 15, 2018

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Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

Well this isnt looking good. My new reserve unit pushed my my AT orders and I got San Diego for two weeks with base housing, galley available also no car rental.

gently caress.

Meh did 2 years there without a car. On the weekends take trolley into town and uber back. Ez day. During the week hound the hotties at the chow hall.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Just started the process to go into the Reserves as a SWO. I've been a civilian for over 2 years now.

Yeah I'm stupid.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

:hug:

One of (noble)us! One of (noble)us!

Prior edawg. But yeah.

Also can't wait to mob to Djibouti or GTMO. Two areas the active duty is too smart to get involved in.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

Seriously yo. Like fully 75% of my community ends up in Djibouti. gently caress that if I got an option.

What is the mission there? I heard you live in a conex box.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Stultus Maximus posted:

It could be worse.


Currently living in a conex box, yeah. Although supposedly by this time next year most of the Navy IA billets at HOA will be replaced by active duty Army.

Let's hope so.

Honestly I would love to mob to C5F as a surface planner. In my current career as a DC pol-mil guy that would dovetail well and be a nice break from flying a desk.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Jimmy4400nav posted:

If this doesn't have a two-hour love gay triangle plotline is it even a worthy navy movie?!?

Fixed that for you.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Ron Jeremy posted:

There should be a German word for this. I felt this, particularly after being released into society and noticing how fat everyone was. Took a week to recover my senses.

In time you will become fat. So it's all good.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Elendil004 posted:

I don't suppose anyone would know where to find detailed deck plans/plates/schematics for a John C. Butler class Destroyer Escort kicking around for a research project.

"research project"

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

SquirrelyPSU posted:

It's the sequel to Down Periscope. It revolves around a disgraced SWO and a bunch of rag-tag sailors taking a defunct member of the Tin-Can Navy and pitting the plucky upstart against today's Nuclear and AEGIS fleet for a shot at his own command.

The excercise is cancelled after the ship's fourth ARI and a fraternization "situation".

I've been looking at lat transferring to Reserve EDO when I get back in the Reserves. One of the mobs that REDO's do is called SURGEMAIN, basically augment a shipyard or an IMA. The OICs are reserve officers that are in charge of a rag tag group of reservists who may or may not know anything about waterfront maintenance. Can't wait.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

Surgemain has the best ATs. Hawaii or Japan? Yes please. I knew the AT was gonna be chill when the Master chiefs got dropped off at the hotel with their golf clubs and wives.

They usually send us to a quick class on whatever maintenance item we’d be working on so you are at least as useful as a smart boot.

That's awesome. Yeah I would love to go to SRF-Yoko for AT. Didn't know that SURGEMAIN was a good deal. What kind of support work did you guys do? Were you assigned work on your own or merged with uniformed or civilian maintenance people?

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

KetTarma posted:

I once got sent to NNSY shipyard for SURGEMAIN AT. They didn't have any work for me to do as an EMN1 because no one was expecting me. I got sent to the firewatch group. The firewatch group didn't have a lot going on so I sat at a picnic table for a few hours a day to see if anyone wanted anything then left.

In the grand scheme of things, it was a pretty decent deal albeit extremely boring.

Well I will be an officer again when I re-affiliate. So hopefully that means I will be standing at a desk with a computer instead of a picnic table.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

I'm in SurgeMain, and it's really gotten big recently. I can hook you up with some reserve officers if you'd like first-hand accounts of what their ATs look like. I know from the enlisted side it's currently the best deal in the reserves: you get to pick your when/where for AT, flex drilling is recommended, and training is straightforward and relaxed.

Appreciate it. I will definitely hit you up when it comes time to pick a unit. Could be a few months before the paperwork reaches the cheese at the end of the Navy's bureaucratic rat maze.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
As soon as you have separation orders you can start initiating everything pretty much on your own. Whatever command policies they are trying to impose on you can be ignored, waived, or discussed so that you're not getting hosed over.

When I got out from sea duty I got hosed hard on many levels despite my best efforts and I was an officer that was well liked by the CO and the ship. FTN.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
The biggest reason why the FTZ and JSM CO's kept getting hounded was to deflect blame away from the Admirals. Many in DC, such as Admirals Richardson, Davidson, Swift, and others, felt like they were being unfairly badgered by Congress through the oversight process. So they grit their teeth and vowed to "fix the problem" and to prove their mettle they went full ham on the CO's. Aucoin got retired too. Keep in mind this is all happening while the never ending Fat Leonard fiasco was still continuing. The Navy hasn't faced this much sucky scrutiny since Tailhook.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
Eddie Gallagher on TV this morning saying how the majority of the SEAL community is supportive of this decision and how RADM Green is insubordinate. He is blatantly lying because most of the SEAL officers and specops community people I know are against Gallagher and think he has dishonored the community.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

vulturesrow posted:

My understanding is that he was not trying to toady up to Trump. Rather he was trying to make a desk that would keep Trump front interfering further in the process. And he threw a shades of Mattis zinger at Trump in his resignation letter.

This is my read as well. Spencer was bucking Trump passively during his entire tenure and this Gallagher business was just the straw that broke the camel's back. When RADM Montgomery was nominated to be USAID Director by Trump, Spencer stopped that with a public censure of the Admiral. Later, Spencer also said he would resign if the engineering problems on the USS Gerald R. Ford were not fixed by delivery because Trump kept using it as a prop to poo poo on the Navy.

Retired Reserve Admiral, USNA grad, former P3 pilot, healthcare lobbyist, and current ambassador to Norway Kenneth Braithwaite has been nominated to be SECNAV. Just like Sondland, he is a Trump donor but seems more qualified than most others.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Stultus Maximus posted:

Was he actually a P3 pilot? All I know is

Sounds like flight attrite lat transfer to PAO.

He was a qualified pilot and I believe he conducted deployments in Europe against the Soviets. His timeline makes sense. 1984 grad. Two years of flight training and winging in 1986. Either finish his initial JO sea tour and lat transfer to PAO. Just because he was selected for PAO doesn't mean he left the squadron right away. Usually redesignation admin boards happen on a routine basis and then members go to their new community tours at the end of their normal PRD.

Bottom line, his service was legit. He is very savvy and had a successful Reserve career. In some ways making reserve admiral is just as hard, if not harder for different reasons, than making active duty admiral.

Howard Phillips fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 27, 2019

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

drat that Twitter story makes me think twice if I did the right thing submitting my package to affiliate in the Reserves. But then again it seems like the reason why her stuff got all messed up was because she has a medical condition and is also a disabled veteran. She sits on Veteran's Affairs committee as a staffer so has extra power in publicly speaking out like this.

Also if she's not cleared for OCONUS mobilization, how is she able to get AT in Estonia?

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

30 days til I report to Norfolk for my mob.

Djibouti or Guantanamo Bay?

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Elendil004 posted:

Sailor at Pearl just shot up a drydock, 2 dead, shooter dead it looks like (not sure if that counts as one of the two).

Thank god it didn't turn into a similar cluster like the naval yard shooting.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/12/05/multiple-gunshot-victims-reported-active-shooter-situation-pearl-harbor-naval-shipyard/

Edit, looks like the shooter was from the crew of the USS Columbia.

Crazy. Any details on whether he was using gov issue weapon or his own?

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
AP, CNN, and FOX now reporting that the shooter was a Saudi aviation student.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
I'm about to email the reserve recruiter and tell him "No thanks." I'm happy with my active service and DD214. Don't want to open another can of worms by joining the reserves.

I asked myself "What do you want?" in the long run with the Reserves and I couldn't come up with a good answer. To me Reservists exist to be mobilized for stop gap/unwanted billets. I don't want to do a mob just for the sake of doing one.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Nick Soapdish posted:

For someone who has active duty experience the reasons to affiliate are really only cheap insurance or you like your rate/designator or sense of shared misery.


Recruiter rogered out to my withdrawal. As a prior e to SWO Navy veteran, I don't have one more deployment in me. My love for the service is what got me interesting in joining the reserves after being out two and a half years, but I realized that it was more nostalgia than a real desire to serve. I don't want to commit to it half rear end just for a check in the box. Also my political and historical perspective on use of military force and national security has changed significantly since getting out. Finally, the healthcare benefits are moot because I'm starting a government job soon. If you're a reservist govvie, you are not eligible for reserve tricare.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

TidePods4Lunch posted:

https://www.facebook.com/hiilaniwai.aiu/videos/1314582175388215/?d=n

Pretty jaw dropping video of the support/respect paid by NAS Pensacola and the surrounding bases yesterday.

Powerful tribute. All three victims were so young, full of life, and a desire to serve. :911:

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

McNally posted:

Nice try, ISIS.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Laranzu posted:

Launchers look like Sea Sparrow or Rolling airframe missile. Wikipedia entry claims it only has Sea Sparrow. Who knows.

I like their motto "We aim for higher things"

That's not a launcher on top of the bridge. Looks like an optical sighting system for the forward gun with FLIR. Two rectangular things on each are heatsinks because FLIR systems generate a lot of heat when in operation.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Lou Takki posted:

Way too small for sea sparrow, that's a anti missile/anti drone thingy.

Could be a low power laser dazzler smaller drones. Higher power laser systems require much bigger assembly etc...

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

vulturesrow posted:

I sat a couple and was in charge of one. The one I was in charge of led to my XO calling me from deployment and berating me. I then found out from one of my buddies that was on detachment that he was telling the members of the wardroom out there that the outcome of that ADSEP board was "borderline insubordination." Then in the next fitrep cycle I was ranked behind a dude that was only in the command for four months. The only reason I didn't report that fucker to the IG was because his wife was battling a serious illness and as much of a dick as he was I didn't have it in me to add that complication to his life.

It was not a fleet squadron, it was my OP-T DH tour. And he was a P-3 guy, go figure.

Welp, thanks for listening to my TED Talk.

No gently caress that. His personal life has nothing to do with professional standards, especially if he is in a leadership position.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
In 2016 one of my guys popped on a drug test and was up for ADSEP board. He was a good sailor with a known alcohol problem. The drug he got busted was used for severe alcoholism hangover treatment and illegal without prescription. I felt for him and went on a campaign to try and keep him. I literally spent 2 or 3 hours a day building support for his case. Calling his JAG and talking to everyone who knows or wants to know about him. Come his separation board I was a character witness and brought a whole bunch of other witnesses to boost my case. At the board they asked me whether he would be a liberty risk for the strike group while on deployment overseas. I said no.

Few weeks later we find out that the board retained him. Honestly I'd never felt so proud to do something for my sailor. I felt hope for the system and the Navy's ways.

Two weeks before deployment I get a call from my chief saying that the same sailor got a DUI. Captain wanted him off the ship ASAP.

I asked him why did he do it? He said "I don't know." No remorse, no emotion. Maybe he was in the pits of something dark that I couldn't fathom, but he had let all of us down so much. End rant.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

1337_ScriptKiddie posted:

So on my conversion options for reserves this month one of my options is AG. Seems kind of tempting. Small community, good chances for making chief, and it's not an engineering rate. Anyone have any experience with AG's or Reserve AG's?

Yeah you're not gonna do poo poo. What's your actual rate? Good thing about AG is that they are under the Information Dominance community umbrella, so you get a TS/SCI. Which can be useful for civilian career options.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

LingcodKilla posted:

This all checks out, I’ve been assigned to two units primarily comprised of them and they don’t do much. If I was to do it all over again I’d probably go for IS especially if I was active.

I do love talking about current events with the officers though. They seem much more dedicated to world events than your average person.

Cuz officers are nobles and poo poo...

Afloat and staff/HQ IS's are two different beasts. If you take orders to a ship as an IS1 or ISC, then you are literally the Intel Officer to the Captain. The IS's I've seen on DDG's and CG's were stressed out like crazy because they didn't realize the Captain and OPS relied on them so much. Also they have to deal with every OPS/Intel brief, every training exercise, and CIC scenarios. Better build them recce guides and print fifty billion copies.

IS's serving on CSG staff or in CVIC on a carrier a bit more relaxed. Kind of a head in the sand. In general Navy intel is poo poo because they don't understand operations. At the operational and tactical level of war, operations drive intelligence. Things change at the theater and COCOM level where the intel cycle is different and feeds into policy and strategy. /rant

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

maffew buildings posted:

Hi guys, I start terminal in three weeks, and my command admin LPO is stating they won't have a DD 214 for me because I didn't turn in my separation package 90 days prior to start of terminal (he says I was told this but that seems like the kind of info I would retain), and that Millington wouldn't have time to generate everything and MNCC will not have my DD 214 and separation orders ready. I read the BUPERSINST on DD 214s and it says that I'm due one of those at the start of terminal in very specific and direct language. Help me understand how I'm misreading the instruction and commands are allowed to disregard BUPERSINST as they see fit because they feel like it in admin, correct?

Are you on a ship? I recommend telling your COC that you want to speak to the XO about this. Drag your DIVO and go talk to the DH and the XO. Make them get their panties in a bunch and support you. We do so much disservice to our sailors with poor admin. Don't expect those fuckers in admin to help you. Be polite with them but tell them that you want to speak to the XO.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

maffew buildings posted:

I am not on a ship, in a Seabee Battalion. My immediate COC is copied in on the email that I sent citing the BUPERSINST to the entire admin department, I'm on leave and don't get back until next Monday so that doesn't help, though. Haven't seen any response or gotten any calls today about it. Will make a bigger issue when I'm back if we don't get any movement. Talking to the XO is a good idea, and I"m getting out, so why would I need to drag my chain in to this when I have his email?

Honestly my main concern is them loving up so hard I don't get it by my EAOS, or is this pretty much something that is unheard of? I think this poo poo is IG worthy either way because a lot of guys have been hosed over on it recently.

You should push to get it by EAOS or when you go on terminal but there are cases where it's not ready and you have go pick it up after you have left the Navy. Happened to my best friend who got out at the same time as me. I was able to pickup my DD214 at my final appointment with PSD one day before going on terminal leave but he had to come pick it up two months later. System is wack.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Nick Soapdish posted:

I know this doesn't help but reservists have been getting gently caress hard by the PSD consolidation / cost savings. I got lucky that I went through demob right before things changed with PSD Norfolk but it's a "flag-level issue" that pay and DD 214s are delayed. Who cares about actually helping Sailors

https://twitter.com/AN_Goldstein/status/1201493010925735937?s=20

She raised a bit of a poo poo storm over the poor bureaucracy and mismanagement of the Reserves. I see similar tweets all the time, and from fairly well known and influential people in the Reserves. Former USNA professors, congressional staff members, or SES gov people, and even they get hosed.

Part of the reason why I pulled my Reserve application. My mentor and former CO told me not to do the Reserves when I was getting out because he thinks "it's just enough to suck up a lot of time without ever being important enough to scratch that itch. Just stay active duty if you want to play Navy."

I wanted to go back in because I saw all the ADSW opportunities in the DC area and got jealous of the people doing them. Six month gigs at OSD, special project roles to COCOMs etc... but in the end it will never be the same if I stayed in as a SWO. YMMV.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Gray Matter posted:

Idk man, I'm not denying that TRS is great insurance, but I'm graduating after spring semester and planning to dip out the reserves just as soon as I can get on a decent employer health plan. Will it be more expensive? Most likely. Will it be worth it to no longer have to sacrifice my free time to deal with the headache of the reserves? Absolutely.

FTN

If you are single and young (under 40), then Tricare is not that much better than most high deductible plans with HSA. Also, lots of employers straight up pay for all your healthcare for singles. Since leaving the Navy I've worked at a non profit and a defense contractor. Former paid like 80% of the premium in addition to putting into $600 into an HSA on my behalf and latter paid for the monthly premiums 100%. Now about to start a government job. Government employees who are in the reserves/guard cannot use Tricare by law. Part of the reason, but not the main one, why I decided not to go in the reserves. Good thing is that government health care is decent.

Just remember why Tricare is a decent deal, it's there to keep you deployment/mob ready. If you have a family, then Tricare could be convincing but you get it at the sacrifice of being away from them and eventually mobbing.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/BDHerzinger/status/1208255619851046916?s=19

Thanks The Navy Reservist for these great tips. I hope you let the NOSCs know how to do their jobs when Sailors follow this process and still don't get paid. Took me 4 months and escalating to apparently someone in Norfolk who is now over all of respay or something to get paid for my E-AT this summer

Step 7: Become the command CPPA.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

FrozenVent posted:

Last shipping company I worked for, the CEO showed up this video and told us to prepare for this to happen ANY DAY NOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALwx5VP8kWA

Seems like a Star Trek type of fantasy. Marine engineering and navigation will always be a human endeavor. Sure, some things will get automated but at the end of the day nothing can replace human beings being there to make decisions.

Semi attractive blondes in high heels making maintenance decisions without walking spaces and inspecting poo poo, yeah right.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

shovelbum posted:

Slow speed two strokes are so much more fuel efficient than any alternative that they more than offset the cost of maintenance anyway, and once you have the engine room guys on board you don't need to do any high reliability engineering of auxiliaries you can just slap stuff together and the engineers will fix it

Preach.

I have an undergrad in EE and a master's in Computer Engineering. Have worked as a senior systems engineer in the defense industry in my post Navy life and a certified geek who loves to mess around with computers and tech in general but even then I don't believe in technology improving the fundamental needs of human life. Improved means to unimproved needs. Warfighting, on land, sea, air, or space, is inherently about decision making and using violence to further political goals. Yes, engineering (running propulsion and electrical distribution) is about technology. Yes, there are ways to automate things and improve certain processes but at the end of the day machines and computers break. Human beings must be there to see to them.

Simplicity and high quality parts that increase reliability are what we need to aim for. Simpler systems last longer and are easier to maintain.

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Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

maffew buildings posted:

Last day of formation, terminal starts Monday. I wish I had been a part of something in our Navy that mattered and had a mission

Almost there. You did your part.

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