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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Was it Grindhouse/Death Proof when most people sorta sussed this out? Because I find that's when he REALLY calls attention to it, which in turn is kind of a self indictment since the film is partly about a man imposing his desires on women.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
In some ways the 1999 Mummy gave Universal the wrong idea. In that instance the filmmakers were able to draw on the parallels to Indiana Jones and the like to make a big dumb action adventure blockbuster thing, and they had a great cast and the right attitude and it worked. I think because of that Universal thought "Well, okay, we can get big tentpole movies out of ALL the classic monsters!", hence various attempts at turning Frankenstein and Dracula into action movies.

And there's something weird about the aesthetic of the recent attempts too- they all look cheaper than they probably were, because they're not quite gothic and not quite flashy action, so they just look muddy.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
I think the little kid movies in the early-mid 90s were a demographic thing. Just before that there were a bunch of films about people having babies (including, oddly enough, Ghostbusters II), so I think they were targeting an actual baby boom.

And of course Home Alone was a surprise hit that became one of the biggest movies of all time so that was part of it.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Yeah Casino Royale is not subtle about Bond being a blunt object MI6 throws at its problems. One of the first action sequences has him running through a wall.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

NikkolasKing posted:

Why would you prefer the movie Sphere? Sphere is easily the best brook Crichton ever wrote (of the ones I've read, which is most of them) and while that might not mean much to some people, I'll take Crichton's best book over a utterly terrible movie.

The whole premise and environment for the novel is great and utilized better than in the movie, IMO. I loved all the technical detail about underwater habitats and the kind of amazing technology we had even back then.

Also Crichton's books just seem to actually have more action and tension in them than the movie adaptations for whatever reason. (why they cut the T-Rex chasing Grant and kids on the raft is beyond me)

Presumably money and time.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
My local Drafthouse isn't even showing the drat thing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

The whirlwind of outrage around RP1 is becoming almost as funny as RP1 itself.

I swear you're all gonna burn yourselves out before the movie's even released.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Valerian's plot makes perfect sense. The romance is a bit shoehorned in but the story is just fine.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
The talent was never the problem, it was that they built the show around breakout recurring characters like "the Asian woman" and "a little boy."

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Godzilla Raids Again came out about 5 months after the original. Son of Kong was also a rush job.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

got any sevens posted:

Also they'll settle to keep that poo poo secret, they always do

Looks like they already tried that informally (cutting Stallone a check for 2.5 million) and he's like "Nah."

Maybe they'll find the right price, but for the moment I'm interested in where this goes.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
I think it's just that poorly done digital has a specific look, which is different to what, say, crudely shot moves in 16mm used to look like. Unfortunately while bad film photography can sometimes still be interesting (the blotchiness sometimes creates interesting effects), bad video just looks really chintzy and sterile. With few exceptions I find bad movies shot on film more watchable than their video equivalents.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
And I'm not even talking about effects. I'm talking the photography. The default for bad video cinematography tends to be overlit, sterile, sometimes with a thin haze of "we pressed a button in Magic Bullet to make it kinda greenish". The worst film cinematography can also be pretty hideous (Frankenstein Island may be the worst photographed movie of all time), but I think by default it would be more contrasty and the colors more saturated.

Of course not helping has been the emergence of the post-Troma "we know this is lovely and we're not gonna try to make it less lovely and that's funny, right?" aesthetic for the cheapest of bad horror flicks.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Honestly what they should do is have a screening of It where the audience is all clowns, except for one person.

For that one person it will be the ultimate experience in terror.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
My understanding was that some stars didn't so much "write" themselves as bring on writers to tailor scripts to them. The more important they are to a production the more power they have to say "I think my character would actually say this". They don't rewrite everything from the top down.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Lord of the Flies was in part an attack on the idea that children were inherently innocent and pure and good and it was only the evil of the world that corrupted them.

You can argue for it being a bad novel but saying it has no significance whatsoever is absurd.

But honestly if they want to make a movie about how cruel girls can be just adapt Cat's Eye instead.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Wait, what? A horror director seems like a really odd choice for a giant robot war movie, I would have guessed they'd be trying to court Blomkamp or del Toro or Nolan.

The way Hollywood works now is if you make a hit low budget genre movie you get placed in charge of a giant franchise blockbuster whether you're ready to do so or not.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
There is some interest in Salander being not just the typical mystery novel savant who doesn't fit in but actually being legit hosed up and a victim of abuse and actually going into some detail on that apart from it just being color.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Detective No. 27 posted:

Nothing will convince me this isn't a comedy movie.

The snowmen have frowny faces

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Inescapable Duck posted:

That's more or less how they do most good voice acting, I think.

Archer has all the cast recording separately, they just have really good sound editing.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
The one problem with The Stars My Destination is it's too late for Harvey Keitel to play the lead.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Apparently it was also something of a dick-waving contest between WB and I guess Paramount. Paramount won because of Cavill's contract status.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I can't believe his name is actually loving Steppenwolf, I thought that was just RLM making a dumb joke.

Jack Kirby came up with some very funky names for the baddies in New Gods. You've got Darkseid, DeSaad, Granny Goodness, the Deep Six, the Female Furies, it's nuts.

I mean they could have chosen Kalibak but he's really tied to Orion's story, and without that connection he's basically just a big hulking monster guy. Steppenwolf makes sense as sort of a scout or forerunner (the name is basically German for "coyote"), but yeah, even when he appeared in comics there was already the band of the same name and the Steppenwolf theater and so on.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
I really would love to see a New Gods standalone movie but man it'd be hard to pull off. You'd have to have Baz Luhrmann directing it or something.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
I think it's as simple as Orient Express and Nile being the most well known of the Poirot mysteries.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Vegetable posted:

Who does Disney need to buy for them to release the original version of A New Hope? Because as I recall, one reason why we haven’t seen it is because its rights are owned by three separate studios or something.

There have been several releases of all the SW films since the Disney buyout, I really doubt there isn't already a working agreement between Fox and Disney.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

Sir Kodiak posted:

PG-13 was introduced in 1984. The original trilogy was modified as late as 2011 and remained PG. Doesn't seem like this is a concern.

I have heard rumors that the main reason Han shooting first was changed in 1997 was because the MPAA were looking at giving the film a PG-13. There is of course no confirmation of this whatsoever so it may be total bullshit, but in theory that could be one thing Fox and Disney would have to consider.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

They're probably referring to Lucas' weird idea that "balance" of the Force was no Dark side at all. While in TLJ Rey is taught about how it comes from a mix of life and death, creation and destruction.

Which tracks well with the philosophies Lucas was working with, where death and destruction are parts of the cycle. It's trying to defy that cycle that gets you all Dark Side.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Okay have you seen a film called Battlefield Earth

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
Wrinkle in Time's trailer was okay. Is there bad buzz on it?

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer
I wonder if the Alpha cinematic universe also contains the movie Alpha Dog.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

FreudianSlippers posted:

Christmas and horror go way back. Christmas Carol is basically a horror story.

"Most Wonderful Time of the Year" has a lyric about telling spooky ghost stories.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


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Grimey Drawer

joylessdivision posted:

1. How did that show last for as long as it did?
2. How has no one rebooted that stupid show yet?

The death of "family" television is I think related to networks and advertisers deciding that "the demo" is really all that matters, instead of total ratings. That whole genre of adventure for all ages has really gone out of fashion- pretty much everything on prime time is targeted at adults.

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