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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Schadenboner posted:

Halfling Hot-Pot rides again, motherfuckers!



It's ok. But so many of the new models lack the charm of the old hand sculpted minis.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Schadenboner posted:

I'm just a sucker for abhumans and the absurdity of Ratties always especially tickled me.

:shrug:

I'm not disagreeing. But I have big love for the 80-90s abhumans. The new ones are cool, but not as charming.



Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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ineptmule posted:

Sorry but the old Halfling hot pot and chef minis are terrible

:wrong:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Solemn Sloth posted:

All Arbites Are Cool Looking Bastards

ftfy

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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If I am looking at buying Blackstone Fortress without the miniatures on ebay and the listing says: "All accessories of the games included except miniatures, explorers cards stats and mallex card stats."

Is the game still playable? Don't you need the explorers cards stats and mallex card stats?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Does anyone have Blackstone Fortress? If so may I ask a favour?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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moths posted:

I do, but I've not yet gotten to play. How can I help?

I was looking for pictures of the explorer cards so I could make my own using a template I found on Yak Tribe. I bought a copy of Blackstone Fortress on eBay but it lacked the miniatures the seller kept the explorer cards as well.

Luckily a friend of mine pointed out that any of the assets on a Tabletop Simulator game are available to be accessed on your computer. So I actually have top-quality images of those cards and have since printed out my own. Thank you for offering to help.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Has anyone tried playing Necromunda using Grimdark Future: Firefight?

I'm interested in playing retro-munda as the ever growing list of books and models for the current Necromunda is a real turn off. I want a game I can play, not a meta to chase.

I know that Yaktribe has a community book, but I love One Page Rules boiled down rules. Just curious how OPR works with Necromunda campaign rules. Or what other Goons have tried.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lord_Hambrose posted:

This is exactly why it is the ultimate game.

One thing is don't get intimidated by the number of books. They definitely don't expect you to use every rule all the time in every campaign. Just start with basic Gangs with none of the allies stuff or crazy gear from the later books and just build up as you go along.

Or use the Necromunda Community Edition Rulebook and Outlanders Community Edition for free on Yaktribe and skip the eternal purchasing of new books from GW.

The Necromunda Rulebook
Necromunda: The Book of Ruin
Necromunda Gangs of The Underhive
Necromunda: The Book of Peril
Necromunda: The Book of Judgement
Necromunda: House of Blades
Necromunda: House of Chains

and on and on it goes...

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lord_Hambrose posted:

Please don't steal as your first impulse.

The intention was to avoid the new books.

I dislike the habit of GW selling you a game and then bleeding you with loads of additional books.

Do you HAVE to buy them? No.

Are we gaming nerd completionists? Yes. 😕

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 26, 2020

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Took a look at the new Necromunda rules. 20+ gangs? Secret objective cards? 600+ pages of rules?

Retromunda here I come. 160 pages across two books.

I'm glad people like the 2017 edition, but it looks like peak GW. So many things to keep on top of. Yikes.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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ineptmule posted:

For me it’s not really a balance issue as most gangs can assemble a ridiculous killer combo or two. Campaigns end up imbalanced more as a result of ridiculous amounts of money coming in and buying outrageous poo poo from the much more predictable rare trade system.

I dislike how the gangs start out being as good as mid-late tier Old Munda gangs. It fundamentally alters the theme of the game for me.

My group has created a hybrid of the two systems that we are very happy with. Needs some tweaking but it’s a lot of fun.

Care to share with the class?

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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I went to the OP to look for the discord info and didn't find anything. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

(Also, all the images are broken)

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lumbermouth posted:

Goddammit I just want an easy way to get into Necromunda without having to buy like 6 things.

https://onepagerules.com/portfolio/grimdark-future-firefight/

Grimdark Future: Firefight is a single-page skirmish game set in a war-torn sci-fi future, designed to be easy to learn but hard to master. The game is played with 5-10 models per warband, giving you small battles that can be played in 30-45 minutes.

Players put together a warband and fight over objective points to control the battlefield, using skirmish tactics to win. The game features alternating activations and brutally quick combat, keeping both players engaged at all times.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lumbermouth posted:

Does it have a campaign system as involved as Necromunda's? That's the main reason I want to play it.

Yes.

THE BASICS (FREE)

Core Rules – all the rules you need to play the game on a single page
Army Books – army books for all of the factions available in the game
Basic Rulebook – beginner’s guide that explains the rules more thoroughly
Solo Rules – Campaign Rules – Competitive Rules – Mission Cards – Play Tokens
Official FAQ – Battlescribe Files – Community Translations – Community Wiki

PATREON CONTENT

Full Rulebook – expanded rulebook with tons of additional content
Point Calculator – create custom units and armies to play with any miniatures
Narrative Campaigns – Paper Terrain – Official Miniatures

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Rumors are saying this is another limited run box. Dear god GW, just make enough to go around.

Are their any good leads on the cost of the box? I'm actually tempted to pick it up and sell of the guardsmen and game components, only keeping the orky stuff.

I guess we will see. :hmmorks:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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I just want the Ork Kommandos, but I'm not paying $285 retail or $240 :canada: "bargain prices" for that box for a game I'd need to flip.

Maybe eBay will pan out, or the Kommandos box won't be mega bucks in 6 months :sigh:

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Oct 26, 2007

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goodness posted:

Ogre Kingdoms for Warmaster to add to that list posted of other stores

https://teremkistudio.gumroad.com/

If that list isn't on the OP of this thread it really should be

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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moths posted:

Holy poo poo 3D printing makes Specialist Games viable in a big way.

In just this month I found another semi-local Warmaster player, printed an army, and three other friends are printing armies.

I'm never looking back to the bad old days of sourcing 10mm figures from Europe, getting hosed on Ebay, or finding that new purchases are +/- 2mm out-of-scale.

And A.Titanicus is infinitely more viable when you remove Forgeworld's flaky stock levels and surprise discontinuing of pieces.

I had always assumed it was really about the money from the "printer go brrr" memes, but so much more it's the accessibility.

It's the closest thing to going back to 2003 for cheap BGF ships and Epic figures. Like, I'll take the hassle of supports and plate tetris over obtaining physical figures any day.

One trick that I have found very useful for keeping all of your printed minis in scale is to have a single figure that you drop onto any build plate as a comparison. A friend of mine bought a model from hero forge and I use him as my scale figure to figure out if the models I'm printing need to be scaled up or down.

Once you have an army that you have printed and you are happy with pick one figure or row of figures from that army and compare all other models that you purchase to print against them. It's a great trick. 😉

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Count Thrashula posted:

Holy hell this Octarius box is heavy.

I also picked up some Death Guard marines to make a kill team out of. Super stoked to get to painting all this.

I recommend that you start with DG, then Orks, then IG. Messiest to most precise painting. It's a nice way to ease into it.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Spanish Manlove posted:

If I would like to start playing necromunda, what rulebooks do I need?

Like ok I bet there's a Rulebook, but is there a ton of supplements and specific books for each gang like kill team?

Get the community rules from Yaktribe.

I am a fan of closed rule systems. No meta to chase, no additional books, no rules tucked into White Dwarf.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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moths posted:

Didn't the yaktribe compilation start including homebrew?

I dunno. They were pretty good about flagging where bits and parts came from when they assembled their community books. So if there is homebrew it should be tagged in a different color, or in a text box.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Guildencrantz posted:

Guess I'm in a small minority of Necromunda fans in being... not really hyped for Ash Wastes. Though this may be because the underhive vibe was one of the major things that originally drew me in and terrain building is now my favorite hobby thing, so "vehicles and emptier tables" puts me off.

I'm not a fan of size creep either. Vehicles in a skirmish game isn't my vibe. I can see the appeal, but I want my small games to be small.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Floppychop posted:

I just think vehicle based games need to be on a smaller scale.

Ork/necromunda mad max style vehicle combat at 8mm scale would be amazing.

Try Gaslands. It uses Hot wheels. Cheap and small!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Floppychop posted:

I have the first edition rulebook and have converted some cars up, but I'm struggling to find anyone in my area that's willing to try a non-GW game.

Set up a game in your flgs and start "practicing" in a solo game. I have yet to play a game of Gaslands that didn't draw attention simply because I'm using converted Hot wheels.

Or find people that play(ed) X-wing, they will get the game in no time.

E: To keep another game out of this thread here is the Gaslands thread.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3873025&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Same

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lumbermouth posted:

Jesus, Ash Wastes is going to be 300 loving dollars. Given that I'm waiting/trying to get my friends into Necromunda as a cheaper alternative to regular wargaming, I might just wait and see if the rulebook is fully errataed and pick it up from eBay piecemealers.

You may want to look at alternative games that you can just slap a coat of Necromunda over to make it work.

Horizon Wars Zero Dark
Space Weirdos
Planet 28
The One Page rule set which has a Necromunda clone.

Most can be bought for cheap and maybe you can get your game and not need a $300 box set, errata, White Dwarf lists etc.

Just a thought.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Crackbone posted:

Am I wrong in thinking Ash Wastes price is consistent with other stuff vs. other GW box sets? Looks like it’s got overall more than the Kill Team box in it.

Not commenting on perceived value of plastic toys, just that it seems in line with their big box stuff + inflation.

You are completely correct, but the issue is their luxury pricing has finally pushed me out. The last thing I bought after a decade of not buying GW was the Octarus box. I got it at 20% off and sold the Krieg for a good price and still feel like the orks and terrain were fairly pricey. I will be shocked if another kit or box tempts me based on current prices.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Crackbone posted:

Totally understandable, and I wasn’t trying to fault anybody for thinking it’s just too drat much.

I know my dude, we are all just chatting. 🙂

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Lumbermouth posted:

Do they have the detailed campaign rules that Necromunda has? If Stargrave has something similar where you're tracking specific dudes and narrative progress, I'm in.

I'm trying to bolt the campaign rules on to Space Weirdos personally.

I like the dice system SW uses but it is a very light game that lacks much beyond pick up play. So I'm taking the necromunda campaign and just tagging it on as the after action part of a game.

We will see how it goes.

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Oct 26, 2007

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Beffer posted:

Adding goon-made 5 Parsecs From Home into the mix. It has strong RPG / development focus with skirmish rules, and is setting agnostic so you can paste Necro in if you prefer. The big difference is it is coop/solo focussed.

I keep forgetting to pick that up. Thanks for the reminder.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Charles Get-Out posted:

I say this with a heavy heart as someone who violently loves dorfs:

I'm not feelin the new squats at all. Maybe it's the paint job or something.

No, it's the models. They aren't very good.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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I look forward to the addition of jets, tanks and artillery guns to really add to the gang war in the underhive vibe. 🙄

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Genghis Cohen posted:

Oh, unique gang vehicles (or possibly mounted fighters instead in some cases) will definitely be coming along. I'd stake my life on it.

I know what people mean when they say necromunda is too heavily armed these days. but the counterpoint is that it's much easier to have all the tools, and restrict them for a low-power campaign, than it is to make up newer bigger cooler stuff from scratch. So I'm OK with the direction.

House Orlock stompas, Escher Knights, it just works.

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Genghis Cohen posted:

You joke, but I am 100% sketching up plans for a vehicle big enough to form a centrepiece of moving terrain. The bane blade track system isn't really big enough for what I'm envisioning. I want a proper 12"x24" footprint and at least one storey of sector mechanicus high (5"). Trying to figure out how I could mount a tectonic drill and/or a crane onto it.

It sounds awesome. I'm glad folks are loving the current direction of Newcromunda.

I have officially hit the phase of my gaming life where skirmish is it. Large scale war games take way too long to play and I can't be arsed painting dozens and dozens models for a game, especially vehicles.

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Oct 26, 2007

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Chill la Chill posted:

Friends and I are planning on splitting a box of Necromunda. We wanted the ash waste box, which has terrain, 2 armies, and rules/etc. I’m a bit confused on what is included with the rules and terrain and therefore how to price it, but what would be a fair breakdown of the $300* box if you were to split it into terrain, army+cards, army+cards, rules/templates dice?

*it’s available for $250 at certain online retailers but wanted the $300 breakdown for simplicity’s sake

Split the cost 50/50 you each get one faction and co-own the remainder.

If one of you gives up on the game the other buys the co-owned components for 25% of the original purchase price of the box.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Moola posted:

*me pulling out my extremely tiny tape measure to check your epic bases sizes*

I'm sorry sir these bases are 2mm too big and as such this game is ILLEGAL. I will be calling the tabletop police immediately

Effin' narc.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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nostrata posted:

I think the 4 extra bodies is the more competitive choice.

Like many skirmish games, more bodies equals more ability to get VP. Tank characters and cool weapons are neat, but three or four big guys can't cover the ground 8+ standard troops can.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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I for one look forward to the inevitable Necromunda Titan model. 🤦

Necromunda a grim dark "skirmish" game.

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Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

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Hihohe posted:

I really dont get this

Well how else are you supposed to make a skirmish game going really fast down the highway?

Its the same amount of models just on jet bikes and rad mad max poo poo. Its not like they released a squad of bikes that all move and fire as one.

You aren't supposed to make your skirmish game go really fast down the highway. That's a different game.

The models are amazing. The issue I take is the inevitable upscaling of everything. How am I supposed to play a game on multi-tiered terrain with four levels when some joker shows up on a dune buggy?

Everyone is free to play whatever games they want to play I just get exhausted at the meta of continued upsizing.

It's like looking at earlier editions of 40K. The number of models needed to field an army is laughable compared to what is now expected nowadays.

It's okay, it's just a side effect of getting old. You want your model smaller and your games smaller. It's a fact.

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