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Epic High Five posted:They got what they wanted most of all, and forced on the rest of the country what a majority of them didn't want Steve Jobs was scum, and we laughed at him because he was ludicrously wealthy and had every opportunity in the world to know better. Wishing that people would die because they were too ignorant to understand political consequences is a counterproductive spite. I have nothing but contempt for these morons but I still want them to have healthcare and not to die in painful misery. Their reactions make it pretty clear that they didn't get what they want. I could've been all in on the hate train based on those tweets alone, till you had to remind everyone what a weird creep you are.
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Jan 28, 2017 23:51
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Epic High Five posted:Hey I voted for them to get healthcare and spend hours every day volunteering for people who will give them healthcare. I'm not the one who decided they don't want healthcare, they are. Maybe they'll come around but right now they're too busy calling me a godless liberal Soros shill who hates America This is an idiotic reaction to a phenomenon of mass ignorance. You should be reaching out to these people and trying to educate them as a basis for forming a real mass politics. They obviously didn't decide they don't want healthcare, or else they wouldn't express the fear that they're gonna lose it. They thought Trump was going to replace the ACA with a better healthcare system, which is what he actually said. They didn't think he'd try to wipe it all out in one fell swoop without an alternative plan. That makes them idiotic rubes, not maliciously self-destructive psychopaths. This has always been a country of rubes and con men, and you can't blame people for their gross ignorance when the system is built up to keep them that way. All you're doing here is demonstrating why people can still have so much contempt for Liberals, even in spite of Trump voters. You're no less petty or spiteful, and your politics are garbage.
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Jan 29, 2017 00:05
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Epic High Five posted:Being petty and spiteful and having garbage politics is a detriment to political power all of a sudden? People don't like liberals because they AREN'T those things, and thus it has been decades since they controlling any narrative Republicans may be petty and spiteful, but their politics aren't garbage. Because they won, and they won bigly.
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Jan 29, 2017 00:13
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Knight posted:To be honest, "Wow, Trump really betrayed the American people by repealing the ACA without a replacement" feels like saying "Oh my, I had no idea that huffing paint kills brain cells," but after reading that AMA about someone's WWII Axis grandpa and similar stories, this is the most likely narrative they're going to accept. Americans are a grossly ignorant people with enough functional knowledge to participate in a modern society but not enough to understand any of it. You bring up World War 2 and I'm seriously trying to remember what they taught us about it if at all in secondary education. I don't think my history classes ever even got to the 20th Century.
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Jan 29, 2017 00:59
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with the subject matter of this thread or its premise.
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Jan 29, 2017 09:30
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ketchup vs catsup posted:General question for you: ignorance is not a defense against breaking the law. Why should ignorance be a defense against the consequences of votes made in ignorance? And these people not only hurt themselves but all of us. Nobody is being absolved of responsibility or anything. It just looks dumb when you don't understand the people you're mocking, by claiming they had intentions they clearly don't. This happened because the Democrats were outmessaged on economic issues, and Trump convinced people that they were buying into a basket of goods he never had any intention of delivering. They're still trying to claim people won't lose their coverage when ACA is repealed, because they're working a con.
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Jan 29, 2017 10:12
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Crocoswine posted:gently caress 'em The "middle class" is the worst class.
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Jan 29, 2017 10:54
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Scent of Worf posted:You're absolutely right there are a lot of trump voters who voted for him because they simply wanted positive and fast change and not more worthless centrist incrementalism. emoji posted:You're a retard.  http://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/1/18/14300952/donald-trump-vote-regret Sherri Underwoood posted:But sitting on my couch, sipping coffee as I watched the interview, I saw with my own eyes who Trump really was as a person. He backtracked on one of his signature campaign promises: pursuing an investigation into the Clinton email scandal.
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Jan 29, 2017 11:54
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Caitlyn Jenner has been weirdly silent lately. Definitely one to watch out for.
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Jan 29, 2017 13:15
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Squizzle posted:stupid l i b e r a l s believin in magical political forces to do anything, dont you know you need to form a unified class front by educating people who believe that Black people are gorillas who steal medicare Thinking you could win with Clinton was magical, yeah. Constantly making appeals to the Middle Class even though they voted for Trump was magical. Reaching out to moderate Republicans was magical. Believing in demographics as destiny was magical.
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Jan 29, 2017 21:40
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Democrats govern by making Republican policies permanent.
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May 1, 2017 00:23
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Wanting everyone to have the same healthcare plan is socialism.
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May 4, 2017 22:51
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Republicans who make more than $50,000/year don't care about social welfare programs, and they tend to vote more often than poor people of any ideology. I think the left hasn't figured out that there are simply many more middle-class conservatives who just don't wanna pay taxes for a more robust social welfare system than they think there are. Why should they? They have insurance with their job already. The Left has, libs haven't. It's infuriating that every piece of data showing that Trump's real support base was in the middle classes still hasn't sunk in to the Democratic mindset. They'd still rather chase suburban Republican moms than court the poor.
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May 26, 2017 18:21
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Liberals taste the best. Grass-fed meat.
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May 26, 2017 19:09
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:off topic, but it's fascinating to me that (in US politics) "liberal" has gone from mostly used by conservatives to mean too far left, to a perjorative used on the left to mean (near as I can tell) what used to be called neoliberal or limousine liberal? what's the current political hierarchy for these terms: American political discourse is so jumbled and toxic, you pretty much just have to hope that people know what you mean in context.
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May 26, 2017 21:41
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Let's talk about the title of this thread then. Is it even relevant? I feel like the news likes to tout these one-off stories centered on poor Trump voters, but there are millions of conservatives out there who are far and away not in the same economic state of existence. And they seem almost divinely immune to Overton windows and "pendulums". Even pro-life Democrats like Heath Mello can't martial their votes. Well why would they? Republicans always offer them a better deal in terms of their race and class interests. One of the consequences of having a liberal constitution like the United States does, is that it creates rigid barriers between personal, political, and business lives. It wouldn't matter how reactionary the Republican party becomes if you're rich enough, because all that money will insulate you from right wing dictates in your personal life. What does it matter if abortion access is heavily restricted in your state? You could buy your daughter, wife, or mistress a plane ticket to Canada or Europe and have it done there.
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May 27, 2017 00:11
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HorseRenoir posted:suburban Rs for centrists, rural Rs for the left Right now in the UK election the overwhelming support for the Tories is dissolving in part because Labour & Conservatives released their manifestos, and the Tory platform is trash while Labour is offering what people actually want. You don't have to transform rural voters into socialists, just give a reason for the people who would actually find a socialist platform appealing a reason to turn out and vote.
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May 27, 2017 06:49
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Batshit insanity is the sole mobilizing force available to them at this point. They've spent a couple decades whipping their base into a state of prodromal schizophrenia until they've started seeing illegals and terrorists in every shadow. It is toxic as all Hell, but the belief that a vote for a Republican could be the difference between being great again or civilizational doom is a powerful incentive to turn out.
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May 27, 2017 09:24
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I MAY NOT BE - Nancy Sinatra But THESE BOOTS were made for WALKING ON YOUR BALLS
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May 30, 2017 20:59
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Just like universal healthcare, letting you cum is NEVER EVER gonna happen!
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May 30, 2017 23:45
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The acidity of the oceans will be problematic for his immortal seasteaded cyberbrain.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:16
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VitalSigns posted:"The king says if I pimp my kid's death at his fundraisers and I'll get a cut of the money" This is what kept the Tsars and Chinese emperors in power for of generations.
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Jun 2, 2017 06:04
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This checks out as technically true.
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Jun 5, 2017 23:37
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Badger of Basra posted:it's just payback for the cia selling crack in cities the cia didn't sell crack in our cities  they just smuggled it in on government planes is all
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Jun 7, 2017 03:56
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When I read that fentanyl is 50 times stronger than heroin my eyeballs almost popped out my head and rolled out the door.
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Jun 7, 2017 04:32
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Carfentanil was developed as an elephant tranquilizer, and it's so toxic that people are afraid it could be used as a chemical weapon. Yet it's still Schedule II and marijuana is Schedule I lmao
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Jun 7, 2017 09:14
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Relin posted:Some progressive lawmakers have other ideas about how to address the harm caused by automation. For example, San Francisco County Supervisor Jane Kim has explored the idea of implementing a ”robot tax” on companies for every robot they employ to perform a job previously done by humans. The revenue raised by the tax would fund the retraining of displaced workers. Thank you, Robot Tax, for retraining me from quality inspection at the Kit Kat factory to become a grill cook for five years before that's fully automated too.
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Dec 4, 2017 10:20
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Thanks to the Democrats I was able to be retrained to become a living target practice dummy at the paintball range for billionaire childrens' summer camp.
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Dec 4, 2017 10:22
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I get a .50 cent bonus every time a paintball hits my nipple, but only if I say thank you to the young sirs.
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Dec 4, 2017 10:23
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Magres posted:i mean even whether you think retraining is actually a solution or not we all know they will never ever swallow their pride enough to take advantage of a government program they realize is a government program We all know there's not gonna be a Robot Tax.
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Dec 4, 2017 10:54
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Epic High Five posted:Capitalism is so great that it's turned the prospect of a society where nobody has to work and robots to everything for everybody into a dystopian nightmare People are gonna be talking about Elysium 8 years from now the same way we talk about Starship Troopers today.
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The only real solution is to grow the public sector and deliver government services that people actually want, because it's impossible to compel capitalists to act in the public interest even if you give them free money to do it.
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Government retraining programs are essentially a subsidy to the private sector anyway that maintains an exploitable reserve pool of labor. Because without taking on the costs of retraining themselves private companies aren't compelled to hire anybody on, and having all those people remaining job seekers also suppresses labor costs.
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Dec 7, 2017 05:45
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Doctor Spaceman posted:To an extent. Roughly half of our production is coking coal which people still want since there is no obvious replacement (unlike thermal coal). I'm guessing Australia exports a lot of coal to China?
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Dec 7, 2017 07:07
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those aren't real human names
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Dec 17, 2017 04:28
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Epic High Five posted:dissolve the Senate and expand the House to 1 rep per 100k citizens and also install a boxing ring We should have at least as many representatives as the National People's Congress.
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Jun 27, 2018 20:12
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Jun 28, 2018 02:16
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:'Even the cops don’t like us anymore': Under Trump, ICE is despised and divided let_them_fight.gif
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:its cute how they think they're exerting pressure on trump/ryan/mcconnell by making their voters suffer The point isn't to make the voters suffer, it's to piss off all the Republican Job Creators who are watching their profit margins take a nosedive.
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