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Asimo posted:Liberals are pathetic fragile snowflakes! Also they don't want to be around me or listen to me and that isn't faaaaaair! Decades of defending Israeli apartheid is good for polite society, but supporting Trump is too far.
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Uncle Wemus posted:I thought Alan was an influential Democrat who botched about Keith ellison why is he a trump guy Because Trump is the best thing to happen to Israeli apartheid since the 6 day war.
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Jul 3, 2018 16:25
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Shear Modulus posted:well many of the middle eastern countries that regressed from functioning civil societies into right-wing autocracies over that time period like iran and egypt and israel were helped down that road by america Calling them "functioning civil societies" is a huge loving stretch. Secular modernist, maybe. Truga posted:on the left there's no such counterweight, because fash don't seem scary on a personal level unless you're one of the minorities they're currently targeting There's no counterweight on "the left" because of an entire lifetime of establishment propaganda that validated conservatism as a respectable opposition that's worth compromising with - and libs are still chasing after the reasonable conservative moderates thinking it's going to make them a permanent majority party. Fear isn't a motivating factor for people that don't vote because in the grand scheme of national politics, whichever party is in power makes no difference to their day to day lives. And the changes that do come are unnecessarily burdensome because they're neutered out the gate to appease an opposition that is completely against positive rights under any circumstance.
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Jul 16, 2018 09:20
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Truga posted:if fear is no factor, then why are the righties constantly voting for people with isolationist/racist/straight agenda? Pener Kropoopkin posted:Fear isn't a motivating factor for people that don't vote
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Jul 16, 2018 10:59
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The rallying cry for the left should be "Yes we will." Yes we will have universal healthcare. Yes we will close Guantanamo. Yes we will abolish ICE. Yes we will raise the minimum wage. Yes we will end the War on Terror. No compromise, and no negotiation. This will come to pass when the radical left is in power, because reactionary politics will be destroyed. Not in a yaas queen epic clapback tweet destroyed, but in a constitutionally-revisionist state legislative supermajority destroyed.
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Jul 16, 2018 15:08
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ikanreed posted:I mean that sounds nice, but "independent voter" "small business owners" need to have guillotines built and ready to go in their town to remind them of the alternative What's the point of building them if you're not going to use them? If people are erecting guillotines then there's no point stopping at the constitution.
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Jul 16, 2018 15:17
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Burt Sexual posted:So farm income is down 50% in the last 5 years, BEFORE the big tarrifs even are in place. lol looking forward to the "Tractor parade in DC" that they promise. When it does happen it'll be a tractor parade of Monsanto serfs, followed up by the Tyson's chicken peons.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:00
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Agriculture is just completely unworkable as a for-profit industry, and should be the first thing socialized before healthcare. The only alternative is that there's going to be enough land consolidation to establish real agricultural monopolies, and they will return profitability by god.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:03
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Squalid posted:Yeah guys like Nasser always self identified as nationalists and socialists, and often sounded a lot like fascists. They were never really secular though in the way the US is, in that they always sought to explicitly enmesh Islam and the state. Nasser was explicitly secularist. So were the Ba'ath parties and Kemalists. The point about them not being functional civil socieities, is that civil rights were practically non-existent. Nasser murdered the communists, the Tudeh tortured and murdered Iranians, and Kemalists repressed Islamism in Turkey by regularly torturing and murdering anybody who dissented under their military coups.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:14
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Epic High Five posted:I'm 90% convinced that most of the MAGA chuds will vote just as enthusiastically for the destruction of the indolent billionaire class and seizing of their fortunes for the public good, the movement just needs a firebrand beligerrent jackass to lead it who isn't the sort of bloodless technocrat that the Dem party has been cultivating for decades. These same chuds hand waving toddler concentration camps were not too long ago dragging mine bosses out of their mansions and tarring and feathering them MAGA chuds are too narratively brain poisoned to turn against their god king. It's the people who don't vote that actually matter, because they're half of all registered voters.
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Jul 16, 2018 16:24
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Grondoth posted:The gently caress did they think, he was just going to put tariffs on one product? the washing machine and steel tariffs aren’t really related at all. the tariffs on inputs were going to happen anyway, because of the lobbying from other industries. the bourgeois don’t really have class consciousness, because they constantly gently caress each other over pursuing their own narrow self-interest.
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Jul 17, 2018 14:45
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Shaffness posted:He just leaned socialist/commie instead of fascist/Nazi. Yeah, that's why he was good.
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Jul 17, 2018 16:31
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Shaffness posted:I'm not saying his heart wasn't in the right place in that one instance. It's just that everything else about him was bad and corrupt and crazy. He was definitely on the express lane to autocracy and dictatorship before he wound up dead. Presidential Dictator Huey Long would be unironically good.
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Jul 18, 2018 02:09
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:I had to read it 15 times and it’s really obtuse but I think you have to circle the 1. do bullet points count as part of a sentence?
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Jul 18, 2018 18:37
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My neighbor is petty boug too, but he's doing alright since he mostly services rich guys that work for Tyson's or Wal-Mart. They're doing just fine.
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Jul 20, 2018 12:54
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etalian posted:If they voted for their interests instead of ideology you wouldn't have red state governments like the dumb one on Kansas. Personal interests are too subjective to assume that people value their material conditions over ideology. And besides, if we all voted in our material interests then the communist party would rule all 50 states.
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Jul 20, 2018 14:42
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I guess Roseanne is still funny.
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Jul 20, 2018 18:00
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1redflag posted:But not, like, funny haha, more like "does this taste funny to you?" funny It's funny like when some drunk rear end in a top hat takes a swing in the bar bathroom, loses balance, and falls into the communal trough urinal.
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Jul 20, 2018 21:50
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We had to burn the children to save the children.
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Jul 20, 2018 23:43
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Best Friends posted:I read a couple accounts from surviving branch davidians and the most amazing thing about it is even the total true believers didn't find koresh remotely likable. that's not usually how cults go. Bhaghwan Shree Rajneesh blew his cult's own money buying an entire fleet of Rolls Royces, and drove a different one every day. They were all kept on the Rajneeshpuram compound too, and all the college educated people who joined the cult didn't feel like it was a scam.
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Jul 21, 2018 20:20
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now would be the time lol
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Jul 22, 2018 12:17
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zegermans posted:they were murdered before the fire though They were killed so they wouldn't die burning, yes. I know people are pissed off about the Malheur occupiers getting let off by a jury of their peers, but that doesn't mean we have to do Waco siege revisionism. e: lmao just realized I'm talking to zegermans
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Jul 25, 2018 17:16
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Eat This Glob posted:ty for the kind words guys. i hope to escape with my life, but probably not my dignity. that died from having lived in steve king's congressional district for the last 6 years Listen. Trade wars are good and easy to win.
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Jul 25, 2018 21:25
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old beast lunatic posted:What is the big mistake you retard? Letting speculators run the market. You know - like how capitalism works.
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Jul 25, 2018 21:28
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:See, if we make them legal, they'll turn into lazy sacks of poo poo just like us! This was pretty much the Bush administration's immigration policy. Deny them formal rights, but keep the pressure off so they're willing to be exploited.
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Jul 26, 2018 00:28
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Mr Hootington posted:The deciding no vote was cast by the Libertarian council member who burst into tears after voting no. The reason given: His daughter wanted him to vote no because it would hurt the local environment. owned
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Jul 26, 2018 13:27
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Epic High Five posted:ahhhh, privately run market driven solutions, surely this will end well it’s the same thing as what the British did to relieve the Bengali famine during WW2. they gave all the food to the vendors expecting them to lower the prices but instead they hoarded the grains and the prices stayed high.
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Jul 26, 2018 16:42
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literally too committed to capitalism to just give people food
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Jul 26, 2018 16:43
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Jose posted:on the one hand it'll usher in a corbyn supermajority on the other everything will be so hosed he's kind of stuck in what he can do capitalist crisis is the perfect revolutionary moment
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Jul 26, 2018 16:55
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Jose is banking on Brexit going down a couple categories
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Jul 26, 2018 21:52
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Jose posted:i'm just blindly treating it like everyone will come to their senses and it won't be that bad That just means you'll make your own gravy.
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Jul 26, 2018 22:34
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VitalSigns posted:Everything about it is mind-bogglingly stupid from start to finish. The next general election isn't until 2022 too, so they can't just run down the clock and let Labour own it without collapsing their own government and triggering yet another election.
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Jul 26, 2018 22:39
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India and Ireland get the first asset draft picks.
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Jul 26, 2018 23:36
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Shear Modulus posted:at another level they are also incapable of recognizing they have actually lost control of the process. this is also true of american neolibs in the age of TRUMP I think the understated thing about Trump's farm hand out is that it demonstrates he's willing to bail out any industry and not just finance. So when libs complain about it being a "soviet farm bill" they don't even realize how much ground they're ceding in terms of policy.
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Jul 27, 2018 02:16
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It's been a while since I've done the math but his kids are like 1/10th native or some other ridiculous "non-white" proportion.
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Jul 27, 2018 22:59
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Epic High Five posted:i love how dedicated this guy is to the belief that millennials are pampered from a lack of wars and easy circumstances despite having was less wealth than they did at our age and the fact that we're involved in at least 2 major conflicts and 150 more small-medium ones, all of which is being put on the national credit card that we will have to pay and not him All the guys who say this poo poo came of age after 1972, meaning the greatest conflict of their generation was invading Grenada.
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Jul 27, 2018 23:02
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Epic High Five posted:I think it has more to do with the fact that their generation did nothing but lose wars, like Korea and Vietnam, so they're especially sensitive about chest pounding when it comes to bombing poor people Korean and Vietnam vets are all way past retirement age. Any one of them managing a Louisiana boat company would have quit already.
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Jul 28, 2018 00:33
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I ride bikes all day posted:Counterpoint: This racist asshat will have a very hard time bankrupting us worse than Brownback already did. He loves a good challenge.
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Aug 2, 2018 00:34
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Imagine going all that time thinking your fiance had a cool locket, and then on your wedding day the father in law hands you that little rear end key and gives you a wink.
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PostNouveau posted:If the UK government collapses without a Brexit deal, the next PM just needs to go "hey, I'm actually going to be a leader here and put a stop to this nonsense, gently caress the referendum." You can't just reneg once Brexit has already happened, and it's not certain that the EU would let them reneg even if they did it today.
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