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Y'know, one thing that really surprised me about this episode was the density of plot. Like, that's just not very common in modern writing. Year, source material, etc., etc. But I can't think of very many series that give this much dialogue over to questions of "how will this affect the world around us." I'm not really going to offer a qualitative opinion of that, but the self-hating lit-fic educated genre-writer side of me is watching this thinking "No, no, how does this develop the character! No one cares about the plot!"
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 22:42 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:20 |
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We're never getting away from this argument are we... Aside, is Bobby a genocidal wacko, is that common among Martians, or was her "Who's going to stomp their mountains into dust" just a psych-up speech? I get and appreciate that the inanity of war between Earth and Mars is the point, but the "Kill all Earthicans" poo poo makes a certain impression of Martians other than the Roci's pilot.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 15:51 |
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Have you ever met a marine in real life? Seems pretty accurate to me. I found it scarily accurate to my personal experience, but I didn't want to antagonize anyone with those anecdotes. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Her captain was pretty against the whole war thing and got disgusted by her thirst for genocide. Seems like they're showing she has issues. Which has been one of the high points of this show. It's questionably "competency porn" for the number of voices of reason. Who are being constantly overpowered by short-sighted... nevermind. Made myself sad again.
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 16:48 |
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Fister Roboto posted:I hope the agua kid keeps magically avoiding death. Seriously, how lucky would he have had to be to get rescued from being spaced before dying of thirst or asphyxiation? I assume his suit had an emergency transponder, but it would probably be on the scale of days or even weeks before anyone could swing by and pick him up. I guess the Martians his uncle suicided at picked him up and just let him go at the next place they passed?
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2017 19:12 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I saw that lasagna pan on Shark Tank. Immersion ruined. I used to work at Bed Bath & Beyond. We sold something very similar, but billed for brownies. The idea was to make more crusty edges, but the effect was oveclooked AND unevenly cooked brownies. But, it would save power since it heats up more quickly because the heating surface has way more surface area, which I figured was the reason for it. At least, I told myself that rather than the prop room's real reason: "It looks space-y."
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2017 19:27 |
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I can't imagine that an anime was the origin of it, but I remember hearing some commentary from one of the creators of the Gundam franchise about writing anti-war war stories. Basically boiled down to this weird paradox that war makes for very exciting dramatic stories and, when you make a cool war show, you're constantly running the risk of the audience not getting it. Because we will never be lacking for hawkish lunatics that want to kill to validate themselves. So I really enjoy how much effort has been put into The Expanse's brinksmanship being semi-rational to the people in the universe, but utterly pointless to the audience. On the topic of 9/11 analogies. I was in 8th grade at the time. I remember this kid from my class running through the halls shouting "We's going to war!" He was so loving excited. I wasn't scared at the time, just sort of numb, I remember watching Cartoon Network with my Dad that night because it was the only channel that wasn't running news and we didn't want to drown in it. A couple days later, it hit me that kid wouldn't possibly be going to that war. It was 2001, American wars lasted a year and a half, tops. Ha.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2017 18:29 |
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Some of my best RPG sessions have come from the players killing plot NPCs. Had a Dark Heresy game where the players had to put down a worker's union while their city was being invaded by orks. So the assassin kills the head of the union. Which sets off a riot. The table had a blast with that. Of course, just a week ago, my party decided, when offered the chance to just leave the plot behind and let half the party survive, that they didn't really have anything invested in the plot. So they did. And ended a year and a half campaign in one minute. On topic though, if anything, I think Miller is a DMPC. His plot is disconnected for most of season 1, he can serve whatever role needs filling, and does stuff around, but not part of the Roci crew. They're an RPG; Miller is one of Corey's half-done novels.
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 20:14 |
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Yo momma bones so brittle me crush her rear end to dust!
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2017 22:57 |
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We also don't have any characters from there. There are probably lots of cool places and stories we're not following. And about 39 billion terribly uninteresting ones too. It's just a function of what the auteur wants to portray. We don't, for example, following the harrowing stories of any Martian HR Managers. I'm not saying those aren't valuable stories. Lots and lots of stories have the problem of creating a world view where only the most powerful people are responsible for directing the events. But the Roci's crew, and frankly, Diogo do a good job of illustrating the "regular schmo" angle.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 16:11 |
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Combat Pretzel posted:Syfy is cable? And the show airs at 10pm? Why exactly are the swears censored? Ads still don't want to run on a station with bad words. The US hasn't had a real watershed for decades. It's barely censored, ProtoJulie and The White Lady on last week's Magicians both had Sailor Moon boobies (no nipples). Just one of those weird quirks of making all your tv in the present and having to broadcast it for audiences in Pleasantville too.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2017 17:49 |
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Platystemon posted:
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2017 03:30 |
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Phi230 posted:Anybody know what rpg they actually played I heard it was a forum based game, so it may well not have had a system at all. I'm also going to suspect that it's a lot more "loosely" based on an RPG that we'd like to suspect. Not that it wouldn't be cool to see the rpg notes just the same.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 21:22 |
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counterfeitsaint posted:Diogo at Ceres, when the rear end was smashed to dust. Between this and the belter yo momma jokes, this is the best thread.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2017 07:52 |
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Dawes was the OPA Mob Boss from Ceres. He and Miller had a back-and-forth kind of thing. Hence why he tells Holden he's just missing the hat.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 17:06 |
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I'm scared that Amos is gonna get his brain microwaved, and pretty sure he's off wherever Cortazar is. That's the opposite of what you want, buddy!
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 20:24 |
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I can't imagine anyone gives serious consideration to "Every OPA faction gets a city killer." That's like, the worst possible plan. It justifies just about anything the Inners wants to do to the belt. Certainly Dawes wants to be rid of them to be rid of Fred Johnson, but Johnson's not wrong in wanting to be rid of them too -- he just wants to extract value from them first. I suppose Dawes does too, but he wants his own value extracted first. I think he's sincere about putting most of his questionably-acquired-wealth back into Ceres and the belt. That's how the more organized crime stays in power.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 08:02 |
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Question about timekeeping off-world, since Dawes had a line to the effect of "even our time comes from the inners." Is it established what kind of time folks use? Like, I imagine that Mars keeps its own time, since it has a day/night cycle that's not incompatible with human life. And that official things probably still keep Earth GMT or some equivalent for scheduling purposes. But is there a day/night cycle on Ceres or Tycho, even an artificial one?
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 17:03 |
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I'm not nearly good enough to do it, but it would be rad to do some stereotypical streamer poo poo in belter creole. "Okay, dis skip frame perfect for inyalowdas"
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2017 20:01 |
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My roommate tore into belter creole last night. Initially I was defensive, because nerd social fallacies, but I'm pretty sure he's not wrong. He felt like the show was doing a disservice by having it, that the characters sound stupid -- both that the speech sounds asinine and that it makes the characters seem unintelligent. That belter-speak is questionably racially charged, relying on some of the queues of stereotypical African American Vernacular English. And that the series would be more seriously considered if it didn't have to have it's own con-lang, a decidedly pulp-fiction inclusion for annoying con-going fans.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 14:46 |
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emanresu tnuocca posted:It's literally called Belter Creole because it's a form of Creole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language I may be reading more social critique into what I remember of our conversation about it. I think his biggest concern was that the inclusion of belter creole was nerd-bait, junkfood worldbuilding, and that having characters speak in a made up language that is (deliberately or not) "silly" sounding (again, it literally sounds like silly words and baby talk) made the show harder to approach. I've got a background in English and little language studies so conversations like this are easy bait for me. He's a PHD-Candidate Chemist, so we don't always see eye-to-eye when it comes to artistic direction. But I'm also trying not to defend the show, even though I like it. Though I suppose it's fair that it's equally fallacious to think "Someone criticized a thing I like, they must be right about it and I'm being a neckbeard to say otherwise."
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 18:39 |
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Solkanar512 posted:Did I misinterpret it, or was it implied that Amos had that brain magnetization thing done to him? I didn't see anyone mention it but I figured folks would. My read of that scene was "Oh, that really sounds like what I got." Not that he specifically got microwaved, just that he was microwaved from the start or from other trauma. But I could be wrong.
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# ¿ Mar 20, 2017 21:11 |
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I know this is pedantic, but isn't "We fired on the Earthers before they fired on us," a true statement she could make that would gel with what she's saying happened and the line Mars wants to sell? And, if pushed, "We believed we saw them firing on us." This is one point where I'm not totally understanding the sticking point of the drama.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 20:42 |
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I can tell believe how badly they messed up the physics on Earth in this episode. I ran the numbers and the MCRN landing... thing was accelerating at an even 10 m/s2 towards it's terminal velocity (don't even get me started on how they just IGNORED wind resistence) until it fired its thrusters. Show physics, gah!
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2017 04:35 |
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What happened with that incinerator scene? Is that relevant to anything, or was the cgi just REALLY bad?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2017 21:29 |
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Specifically that the whole pod just sorta popped out of existence. Just thought it looked really goofy.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2017 21:34 |
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Galactica ends when New Caprica gets occupied. Everything that happens after that is the President hallucinating while dying form cancer. And while we're on head-canon; Terminator, Terminator 2, the Animatrix, and The Matrix form a single discrete continuity. The time travel in the first two is just a cover.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2017 15:06 |
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Had a discussion with a friend last night and wanted to raise the question here. Best bad space cop: Odo vs Girabaldi vs Miller. If I had an arbitrary amount of money, I would like to hire them to sit around a table in costume and just trade meaningful glances.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 15:57 |
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I don't know their names but the worst space cops are the ones who allowed Black Market to happen Yeah, but the Black Market music track was rad.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2018 20:29 |
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Proteus Jones posted:In the US: That day wait for The Magicians is killing me, but I'll be getting Expanse s3 through Google this year as well.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2018 19:44 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 07:20 |
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I've got a Chromecast hooked up to my tv, so I use Google since it streams HD to it essentially without set up. If another service has a higher quality, I can live with that.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2018 22:12 |