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WeAreTheRomans posted:Yes, forename and surname. It's secular and non-discriminatory and applies to cultures where the names are reversed from ours. Not sure why this is hard But fore means "in the front of"?
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Transmetropolitan posted:A bit offtopic: I gotta say that I love the current contrast between UKMT and The Trump Government™ discussion here in D&D. Are there enough old labour people to export some socialist resolve across the Atlantic? things must be bad over there if you're applauding the thread whose catchphrase is "hope is a lie" for its socialist resolve.
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ronya posted:for the curious, a few minutes with chris hanretty's estimates: Man, if Swansea West only voted 42% Leave then Swansea East must have voted pretty heavily to leave since Swansea was leave overall 
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ronya posted:hanretty's estimate for Swansea East is 62.1% The university and its students would be in Swansea West so that might partly explain it, we've always been staunchly Labour but they almost elected a Liberal Democrat in 2010. They also have the more affluent parts of the city but also Townhill which isn't as affluent. I'm surprised that he only estimates Gower to have gone 50% for leave because they've got a lot of old retired people and elected a loving Tory. jBrereton posted:The Lib Dems aren't a one policy party either. Brexit is very important to them but then so is stuff like PR or surveillance. The SNP and Plaid Cymru have other policies too, but are still considered single issue parties. Much like Tim has turned the Lib Dems into a single issue remain party.
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learnincurve posted:Sheffield Hallam is the middle classes and students. Middle classes are swinging towards the Tories, and the students feel he ignored them in the coalition and let the housing situation get worse while gadding about with Cameron - Sheffield in general has problems with the council starting a big renovation project and making many promises and then running out of money part way though. It may be a case of him wanting to retire to spend more time with his family before he loses them a relatively safe seat or he may hang on and try to beat the tories, but last election he only really scraped though so good luck with that Nick. He held it by 3000 votes from Labour with the Tories nowhere. Why would it be the Tories taking the seat from him this time round?
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Feb 2, 2017 15:12
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Wheat Loaf posted:Last election, Labour bussed in a bunch of activists to try and get rid of him who could have potentially saved Ed Balls's seat. Getting rid of  is definitely a more noble endeavour than saving Balls.
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Sion posted:Some bastard has dug up the Blue Peter Time Capsule that was buried under the In a competition, viewers had been asked to submit ideas for items they would like put inside. The winning entries included roller blade wheels, an asthma inhaler, Tellytubby dolls, a France 1998 World Cup football, a picture of a dove to symbolise peace in Northern Ireland and a Roald Dahl book. Ominous.
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Feb 2, 2017 16:22
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Feb 3, 2017 05:03
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Wheat Loaf posted:My dear old gran voted to Leave because, (and this is what she told me) "I haven't trusted the Germans since 1939." I wish more old people had this mentality tbh
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Serotonin posted:I wonder what happened to noted UKMT leftist and all round good egg The Saurus? Did he really only get a 6 hour probation for that? Pissflaps posted:He's quite something. He might have one of the strangest life stories of anyone I've ever come across. A very odd chap.
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TheHoodedClaw posted:It's a Mail on Sunday story. Different editor (who by all accounts loathes Paul Dacre), but a shared online platform. The Mail on Sunday will try to contradict Dacre as much as possible while remaining a fascist shitrag. They were pro-remain for example.
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I'm disappointed about Trump being banned from Parliament. At least before we had the possibility of him losing his cool as Skinner yelled something at him
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kustomkarkommando posted:Good to see that in the three hour debate on amendments concerning the devolved regions there was enough time to hear from one welsh mp, one northern Irish mp and one and a bit Scottish MPs. John Redwood's speech was the most loving aggravating.  "Why won't anyone think of England? People who seriously complain about England not getting it's own devolved powers are as loving oblivious as the morons who ask why there isn't a white history month.
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jBrereton posted:Newcastle, because York has to put up with their pisshead shiny suited day drinkers any time the races are on which frankly is burdensome enough. You've given me nasty flashbacks to when I used to live on Micklegate. Race day was a loving nightmare.
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Pissflaps posted:I went to the national railway museum recently - that's in York. York is one of the places outside London that is allowed to have nice things. For full disclosure, in Swansea we have the National Waterfront Museum, a mummy in the Museum of Swansea, and an indoor jungle.
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Having lived in Taiwan, massive high rises are actually cool and good and give you affordable housing in convenient central locations.
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Wikipedia has banned the use of the Daily Mail as a reliable source lmao
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Feb 9, 2017 01:40
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Paracaidas posted:He could lay down the whip and let members vote however they'd like. It would lose the benefit(?) of a unified Labour front, but would allow Remain a few figurehead to rally behind as everything goes to poo poo. The cynic in me says he avoided it because a coup might actually work if a Remain Figurehead in his shadow cabinet gave it a shot after a year or so. Don't you think Clive Lewis's decision to resign might allow him to cast himself in this role anyway? Speaking of which, I wonder which direction this thread's posters would swing in a Lewis/Corbyn leadership election. I'd definitely cast my vote for Lewis in that scenario.
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Jedit posted:He hasn't been a fuckwit making GBS threads up the UKMT. I heard that Corbyn posts on here under the name 'Pissflaps'.
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Feb 9, 2017 12:32
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TinTower posted:Tell me exactly how voting for a Tory bill that is against Labour policy and the wishes of the vast majority of Labour voters and members isn't "propping up a Tory government". Because the current Tory government has a majority and doesn't need propping up??? Much unlike certain other Tory governments I could name.
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Feb 9, 2017 16:34
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TinTower posted:They don't need propping up, but Corbyn's doing it anyway. To prop up means to prevent from falling. Corbyn is not preventing the Tory government from falling, much unlike a certain other politician whose name was a C-word.
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I'd suggest the Marriage Act of 2013 was a pretty huge act. How did your man, Tim vote on that one, TinTower?
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Gorn Myson posted:Mark Thomas has a nice story about Dave Allen that reminds me about this. I mean basically the past year has been incredibly thin skinned white straight male conservatives calling everyone else special snowflakes and then throwing a temper tantrum when anyone dares say anything directed at them. And that's just the new American government.
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forkboy84 posted:Can't definitely say who I'd vote for in a Lewis vs Corbyn race, but my gut reaction is that people like McDonnell would still work with him. In that case, and assuming Clive Lewis shitcans Seamus Milne, I imagine I'd get behind him as a left candidate who doesn't have decades of baggage and has a greater than zero chance of winning an election with a leftist platform. Other rumours are saying that a lot of Corbyn's team are turning on Lewis and Rebecca Long-Bailey is the anointed successor now. If I believed Corbyn and co. had the cunning to pull it off, I'd think this was an attempt to create a left wing successor that the agitators on the right of the party saw as anti-Corbyn. Maybe that's how Lewis is trying to position himself.
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Bloops Crusts posted:Seriously, what the gently caress is going on? Last I checked, it was the Tories who brought Brexit on you all, so why the hell aren't they the ones to pay for it at the ballot box? the reason why the Tories won't pay for it at the ballot box is because the vast majority of constituencies voted to leave? Unlike Donald Trump, Brexit hasn't been enough of a disaster yet to start really negatively affect people's lives enough for them to change their.mind on it, and I doubt they will even when it does because our rabidly right wing press will find some way to blame foreigners or "remoaners talking Britain down".
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There have been marches and protests against Brexit. Like most marches and protests, they get ignored unless black bloc types get involved and the protesters can be cast as violent instigators. Any attempts to speak out about Brexit gets you called a whinging remoaner trying to talk Britain down. Brexit isn't an obviously lovely person like Trump is so doesn't get the same reaction he does. There's no passion for the European project because it's a lovely institution only beloved by neoliberals that we only want to stay in because the alternative is worse.
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Bloops Crusts posted:Is that Corbyn's lovely opinion too? We need to get out of the EU so we can raise tariffs and return to a protectionist economy, because that's pro-worker or something, any anyone who disagrees is a stupid neoliberal? the EU is a protectionist economy. Not as much as America or China but it still is. It also is responsible for imposing austerity on its members. That said, it's better than the alternative and that was Corbyn's stance in the referendum quote:The EU is the future of the world. It's peace between nations, no borders or boundaries, people from all over uniting in common interest to take a stand for democracy and liberalism against more shadowy corners of the world, like Russia and China. lol quote:Just seems like the people in charge of Labor are a bunch of asshats. They're pulling a Hillary, going along with whatever the popular mood is at the moment, being totally lame and uninspiring, and not trying to sell people on an alternative vision. you're probably the first person to accuse Corbyn of chasing the popular mood. quote:gently caress, if Labor won't do it, why aren't the LibDems? What the hell are they doing right now? Why haven't they cast themselves as the Remain party and rallied the 49% who voted Remain to their cause? being the party of remain is pretty much all they stand for right now. They're soaring into the high single digits in the polls quote:I'm no expert on UK politics really? quote:but it seems to me if there were anybody smart in charge over there, they could cultivate that vision, tend it and nurture in, inspire passion in the populace, and exploit it for incredible political gain. Where the hell is the pro-EU leadership in Britain? the way the remain vote is concentrated in areas like London, Scotland and Northern Ireland makes that a difficult strategy to pull off. Particularly as the British parties don't run in N. Ireland except for UKIP and Scotland is solidly SNP. It's a strategy the Lib Dems, for whom winning every remain seat in England & Wales would represent their best ever performance at a general election, can risk, but for Labour only winning those seats would be an unmitigated disaster. 65 AD: Nero kills his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach
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Zalakwe posted:Although I underatand your point and agree to an extent, it depends how motivated those voters are. A few of the huge Lib Dem swings we've seen were not in remain areas. Equally there has been no discernable UKIP surge to date. A lot of leave voters hadn't voted in a long while. It will be very interesting to see how many return to that pattern at a GE, and also how many revert to party, by-election style. It is not inconceivable at all that constituencies that voted leave will have a majority remain turnout at a GE. I wouldn't expect a UKIP surge. They're a single issue party who've achieved their aim and the Tories are a more seriously regarded party who have taken up hard brexit as an aim.
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MikeCrotch posted:Noted Leave and Labour strongholds, Sleaford and Richmond-on-Trent I assume he's talking about council by elections but I wouldn't read much into those. The polling has shown consistently that the Tories are the big winners from the Brexit fallout, Labour are the big losers and everyone else is more or less where they were.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:UKIP are the most serially under performing party relative to media hype and expectations. Yeah, I fully expect them to get a similar result in Stoke. HJB posted:UKIP are going from strength to strength in the east, trust me, they're trying to firmly establish themselves as the party of the working class. They're trying that, yeah. I'll believe they're succeeding when I see it. Barring massive electoral reform, they're going to struggle to get more MPs.
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hakimashou posted:The difference is, Trump got to be president on basically a technicality, and only because Hillary, self indulgent vain idiot that she is, blew her campaign hardcore. It was a perfect storm of bad things falling juuuuuuust into place. lol at thinking the Democrats are good guys, and not the not-cartoon-villain guys. Bigger lol at thinking you're going to have real elections in America under Trump. He's already laying the foundations for massive voter suppression with his 3-5 million illegal voters poo poo.
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hakimashou posted:But it wouldn't be unfair even a little bit to say that the folks who reelected Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party, after the brexit referendum no less, have lost touch with reality in a big way. I don't think I've ever been more relieved to have been born on this side of the Atlantic. we're all relieved about that 1967: the British government nationalises 90% of the steel industry. GEORGE W BUSHI fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Feb 10, 2017 |
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forkboy84 posted:I don't really buy that. We're talking about Jeremy Corbyn here. Literally nothing the man has ever done gives even the slightest hint that he is capable of being a puppet master of any sort. And even if he had that in his box of tricks I seriously doubt he'd want to be a puppet master. Seems out of character, this is a man who ran to be leader out of a sense of resigned obligation to his colleagues on the left. he isn't saying Corbyn will be a puppet master. He's saying people will accuse him of being one. Accusations don't have to have any basis in reality for the press to print them.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Surely that's a parody account. I mean. Seriously? I went to that twitter and it's very obviously a joke
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Pissflaps posted:I don't think what's happening in America is 'funny'. Something can be funny and scary and depressing at the same time. Don't you think the President of the United States interrupting his prayer breakfast to deliver sick burns to Arnold Schwarzenegger over TV ratings or claiming to have the largest inauguration attendance ever despite all pictorial evidence to the opposite is amusing?
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kingturnip posted:He's done quite a lot of work to try to engage young people with politics generally, since he's concerned about low turnout among young eligible voters. He never actually crossed the floor, they just thought he was about to but he got elected speaker before it could happen.
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Hey, looks like The Sun have decided to back to posting straight up "ew gays" bullshit and outing people for no apparent reason.
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Ewan posted:I don't understand the motivation behind a story like this. He is a not a well-known person, nor someone in some sort of public office role where you might see why the paper argues it is in the public interest. And it's just not a story that's juicy enough to drum up controversy or interest that might get a few new readers, as 99% of people will not had heard of him (either his porn name or irl). Yet, they identify him by name and age (and I assume a picture), and his life (for at least the next year or so) is likely going to be a misery. I can't figure it out either. It feels like there has to be some deeper reason for it like some sort of vendetta. There's probably loads of people who did porn out there doing normal jobs now so why was this bloke singled out? Spurned an advance from someone on The Sun or something? Maybe The Sun is just a lovely publication staffed by lovely people who do lovely things for no reason other than they enjoy doing lovely things.
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