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Jun 20, 2008

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Gas Australia, Ban OP

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Jun 20, 2008

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If only the union movement in Australia hadn't been coopted by a bunch of greedy corrupt catholics (That would be the National Civic Council btw They are having a convention in Brisbane Saturday week, 11 March, At the RSL in Springhill, byo gallows pole.):

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-02/barangaroo-death-union-claims-inspection-blocked-november/8317516

quote:

Barangaroo death: Union claims it was blocked from inspecting work site Updated 29 minutes ago

The Maritime Union of Australia says it was recently prevented from conducting a safety inspection at the construction site at Sydney's Barangaroo where a 30-year-old worker was killed yesterday afternoon. The man was crushed to death when a large metal beam fell on top of him at the Barangaroo Ferry Hub worksite. Emergency services were called to a barge — near one of the city's main areas of water traffic — about 4:40pm. The man left behind a young family. MUA spokesman, Paul Keating, said he attempted to inspect the site when his union was notified in November 2016 about concerns that the barge being used on the site did not comply with maritime standards. "At the time I came down with another official to speak with the workers to have a look at the barge to assess if it was up to maritime standard and to make sure that the operation was safe," he said. "I was met with opposition from the contractor, McConnell Dowell, in accessing the site, after which I contacted Roads and Maritime Services to find out whether the vessel was up to standard. These companies refuse our right on entry even when we raise these issues of safety with them," he said.

In a statement, contractor McConnell Dowell's Australian managing director, Jim Frith, said the company's thoughts were with the man's family. "We are providing his employer with all the assistance they need to support his family, and all affected staff are being offered support and counselling,'' the statement said. "The full circumstances are unknown at this time and McConnell Dowell will continue to work with the authorities as they investigate the incident." SafeWork New South Wales inspectors have spent the night at the barge in Darling Harbour to continue investigations. Work is expected to remain suspended today at the site.

Workplace deaths 'unacceptably high'

The CFMEU's state secretary Brian Parker said there has been an unacceptable spike in deaths at building sites in NSW, and across Australia. "It's running at over one a week at this point in time," he said. SafeWork NSW statistics showed that 60 people died at workplaces during 2015/2016, and 12 of those were in the state's central west. SafeWork agreed the number of deaths was "unacceptably high" and this week launched a $3 million campaign in response to the statistics.

The construction site is part of the Barangaroo Ferry Hub — a NSW Government project designed to make the area where a casino is also being built, more accessible.
So the maritime union and the construction unions, both in the radical right's crosshairs find that the employers are utter murdering poo poo stains. To the surprise of nobody because after all access to casinos is more important than a few peasant's lives.

We could do with a good round of general strikes. Oh wait we can't because they are illegal in Australia. I used to support the amalgamation of unions. I was talking into it during the late nineties by the same people who sold me the pup that was the second tier agreement. Fewer bigger unions has meant that the far right nut jobs in the labour movement have been able to wield disproportionate power for the good of nobody.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-01/finance-department-spends-thousands-on-excruciating-video/8314672

Oh the pain, the pain. I personally didn't think it was any more excruciating than most of the reality TV shows I've had the misfortune to glimpse while trying to change channels.

This, this .... :psyduck:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-02/government-cracking-down-on-457-visas-for-fast-food-workers/8317432

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457 visa crackdown coming for fast-food workers, Peter Dutton says By political reporter Dan Conifer Updated about an hour ago

The Federal Government is cracking down on the number of 457 skilled worker visas handed out to McDonald's and other fast-food chains. More than 500 skilled worker visas have been approved for fast-food outlets over the past four years. Nearly 300 have worked at McDonald's, almost 100 at KFC and more than 70 at Hungry Jacks. More than 300 individual stores employ foreign staff. There had been a fast-track visa process for the industry after Julia Gillard's Labor Government approved the Fast Food Industry Labour Agreement in 2012, but the Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has recently scrapped it. "Australian workers, particularly young Australians, must be given priority," Mr Dutton said. "The Turnbull Government is committed to ensuring that career pathways are available for young Australians. Fast-track arrangements for the fast-food industry put in place by Bill Shorten and Chris Bowen in 2012 are not consistent with putting Australian workers first." Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said he commended Mr Dutton for taking action on the agreement. Fast-food businesses can still apply through the regular 457 process.
Fast food vending - A career - Peter Dutton - "Do you want to fry with that?" - Actual cannibal.

And Ms. Gillard, what the gently caress? from https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/457-

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The Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457) allows skilled workers to come to Aust​ralia and work for an approved business for up to four years.
I have a certificate in beverage capping from McUni I better go help out those poor unskilled colonials. Do I live in this world? What the gently caress? When did things get this hosed up?

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Jun 20, 2008

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Capt.Whorebags posted:

Is the prevalence of the phrase "Judeo-Christian values" because it's frowned upon to hate on the Jews?

Clearly it's okay to paper over the history of anti-Semitism, and well, anti-Catholic (or anything not CoE) that prevailed in this country.
Well interesting you mention anti catholic sentiment because rather than just saying outright they are a Catholic group they would rather hide behind the more inclusive sounding "Judeo-Christian". I think it has also become a dog whistle for meaning Old school christian as well.

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Jun 20, 2008

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It must have been a pivotal moment when JWH discovered that you can do even the most heinous of things so long as you were running a good distraction campaign using the basest of political sentiments. The government knows it can pretty much get away with anything because at election time people won't remember all the poo poo that got rammed down their throats it will be all about pithy slogans and attacking the other players. We hate refugeess more than we care about civil liberties and basic rights.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Doctor Spaceman posted:

The 2001 campaign was headlined by heinous things though, and the 2004 one was based around the radical idea that Mark Latham was not a good fit for the office of Prime Minister.

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Throughout much of 2001, the Coalition had been trailing Labor in opinion polls, thanks to dissatisfaction with the government's economic reform programme and high petrol prices. The opposition Australian Labor Party had won a majority of the two-party-preferred vote at the previous election and had won a series of state and territory elections. Labor also recorded positive swings in two by-elections, taking the Queensland seat of Ryan and coming close in Aston.

The 11 September attacks and the so-called Children Overboard and Tampa affairs were strong influences in the minds of voters at this election, focusing debate around the issues of border protection and national security. Polls swung strongly toward the coalition after the "Tampa" controversy but before the 11 September attacks. Another major issue was the collapse of the country's second biggest airline Ansett Australia and whether it should be given a bailout; the Coalition was opposed to the bailout because it was not the government's fault. However, Labor was for a bailout because the company's collapse was about to result in the biggest mass job loss in Australian history, whilst also arguing that the government was partially responsible for allowing Ansett to be taken over by Air New Zealand who had caused Ansett's failure.[2] Although the two-party preferred result was reasonably close, the ALP recorded its lowest primary vote since 1934.[3]

Political scientists have suggested that television coverage has subtly transformed the political system, with a spotlight on leaders rather than parties, thereby making for more of an American-presidential-style system. In this election television news focused on international issues, especially terrorism and asylum seekers. Minor parties were largely ignored as the two main parties monopolized the camera's attention. The election was depicted as a horse race between the Howard, who ran ahead and was therefore given more coverage than his Labor rival.[4]

The election-eve Newspoll reported the Liberal/National Coalition on a 53 percent two-party-preferred vote.[5]

If by heinous things you mean cashing in on terror sentiment for 9/11, Tampa and children overboard then you are agreeing with me.

2004? It was closer than most like to concede because it should have been a romp (For JWH).

quote:

5.1 Opening shots: "who do you trust?"
5.2 Labor starts ahead in national opinion polls
5.3 After the first week, the Coalition draws ahead
5.4 A terrorist attack on the Australian embassy in Jakarta marks the second week
5.5 The leaders debate and the worm turns in Latham's favour
5.6 At the midpoint, it is too close to call
5.7 Contradictory polls in the fourth week
5.8 Tasmanian forests erupt as the main issue during the last week
5.9 The Handshake
5.10 Final opinion polls are not conclusive

Yeah I'm not convinced your opinions have any foundation in Australian political history.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Local member of parliament, Smith family, media.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Appropriately it is the day of the Sydney Mardi Gras. Sex education has always been a wowzer hot button issue. The age at which people start having sex is a really hard area to get accurate data on but:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/european-sex-survey-teens-from-germany-iceland-ditch-virginity-early-a-454492.html

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A newly-released World Health Organization (WHO) report on sexual habits among teenagers in 26 European countries reveals that German teens are quick off the mark when it comes to losing their cherry; the average age at which Germans -- both boys and girls -- first have sex is 16.2. Only teenagers in Iceland lose their virginity earlier, at an average age of 15.7. Of the countries surveyed, Slovakia had the tardiest teens, who were on average a mature 18 when they first got it on. Of course, health professionals tend to play down the significance of comparisons when it comes to sexual activity. In remarks reminiscent of the famous quality-over-quantity take on male endowment, the WHO's Gunta Lazdane commented, "It's not the age that counts, it's when young people are ready for it." And German girls are apparently ready earlier than their male peers. The report reveals that 33.5 percent of 15-year-old girls in Germany have had sex, while only 22.5 percent of boys of that age have divested themselves of their virginal status. The age of consent in Germany is 14.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/spring-fever/

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The case for starting sex education in kindergartenBY SASKIA DE MELKER May 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM EST

Teacher Janneke van den Heuvel leads her 8-year old students in a group discussion during Spring Fever week in the Netherlands. “Who here has been in love?” Anniek Pheifer asks a crowd of Dutch elementary school students. It’s a Spring morning in Utrecht, and the St. Jan de Doper elementary school gym is decked in heart-shaped balloons and streamers. Pheifer and Pepijn Gunneweg are hosts of a kids television program in the Netherlands, and they’re performing a song about having a crush. Kids giggle at the question. Hands — little and bigger — shoot up. Welcome to “Spring Fever” week in primary schools across the Netherlands, the week of focused sex ed classes… for 4-year olds. Of course, it’s not just for 4-year-olds. Eight-year-olds learn about self-image and gender stereotypes. 11-year-olds discuss sexual orientation and contraceptive options. But in the Netherlands, the approach, known as “comprehensive sex education,” starts as early as age 4.

The results speak for themselves. The nations with the best outcomes of sexual health do early and comprehensive education and mysteriously have no spiralling rates of gayness and deviant behaviour.

This is a symptom of a larger malaise. We live in an age where this information is readily at your finger tips BUT counter narratives dominate the public discourse. Ray Hadley speaks utter bullshit on every subject. Bullshit that a simple google search would debunk immediately. He is still in a job because people want to believe the bullshit. It fits their hosed up toxic world view. A toxic hosed up world view that perpetrates itself into the next generations. The cover of the Tele today complained about whinging millennials who have it so much better than their parents. On what actual metric :shrug: nobody either knows or cares.

And as to sleeping better at night?

https://victimsofcrime.org/media/reporting-on-child-sexual-abuse/child-sexual-abuse-statistics

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Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:

1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;
Self-report studies show that 20% of adult females and 5-10% of adult males recall a childhood sexual assault or sexual abuse incident;
During a one-year period in the U.S., 16% of youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Over the course of their lifetime, 28% of U.S. youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Children are most vulnerable to CSA between the ages of 7 and 13.

Worse, in the majority of the most serious end of that the perpetrators are close family members, friends of the family or people in a position of trust. It is this abuse of trust and trusted bonds that is the most damaging to the victims. Reporting rates are also known to be low. Hardly a surprise when the progress of charges leads to a minute conviction rate. So yeah the sleeping part? Self medicate.

Early sex education is one way to equip children to deal with both repulsing unwanted sexual activity and finding the pathways to reporting it. Now why would a church want to stop that?

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Jun 20, 2008

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Looks like I wasn't the only one to spot the similarities:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/fascism/8290008

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Fascism Sunday 5 March 2017 12:05PM

The term 'fascist' features in much of the current commentary on political events in Europe and the United States.

Where did the term come from and what does it mean?

Just how useful is the concept in understanding what is happening in the world today?

A pretty interesting listen if you have half an hour which ends by positing that just noting it and reporting it makes you part of an updated Godwin law. What really should be asked is how does any insight or understanding help to protect democracy from the current threat. In this context it isn't hard to see why PHON would be supporting Putin, Trump and any other ruthless dictator. Next it will be 'Kim Jong-un, he's just a bit of a naughty boy really'.

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Jun 20, 2008

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The Deadly Hume posted:

Godwin himself stated that Godwin's Law doesn't apply if you're talking about actual fascists.
I know this, but if calling actual fascists fascist has lost all sting then despite Godwin's well meaning exclusion, poo poo is still as written. Listen to the podcast they might explain it better than I did. The point broadly is that calling Trump (et al) fascists doesn't actually go anywhere worthwhile. I'm not sure I 100% agree with that but it is a view worth considering.

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Jun 20, 2008

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I know I'll regret it and am probably being trolled, but Medicare beat up?

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2016/2016/06/22/alp-medicare-claims-beat-shepherd/

quote:

Opposition’s claims that the Government plans to privatise Medicare are a “gross misrepresentation”, according to the businessman who chaired the Coalition’s 2013 Commission of Audit.

The claims of a Labor overreach have also been backed by Australia’s peak doctors’ body, the Australian Medical Association.

Labor has continued to accuse the Government of having a secret plan to privatise Medicare’s payments system, forcing Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to emphatically rule out any outsourcing of Medicare’s functions.

In his 2013 report, Tony Shepherd recommended that the Government outsource its whole system of payments, including Medicare’s.

Mr Shepherd told Lateline that outsourcing the upgrade of the “clunky”, 25-year-old system is not privatisation.

NOTE: Tony Shepard is a human shaped pile of still warm turds. Anything said by him is, at best, a misrepresentation and driven by his business interests.

Any similarity between this and the CFA schmozzle are slim and coincidental.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Welcome back to the standing Cartoon challenge! Still waiting for a single piece of evidence that privatisation has ever worked anywhere. Meanwhile Free Market best Market! Regulation leads to stifled innovation and productivity! Someone should blow those unions up!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-06/accc-says-consumers-gouged-through-poor-airport-privatisations/8327196

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ACCC suggests airport regulation, says flyers pay up to $1.6b in extra fees due to privatisations By business reporter Michael Janda Updated yesterday at 1:45pm

PHOTO: Sydney Airport is the nation's most expensive, including a 73 per cent profit margin on parking. (AAP: Paul Miller)
RELATED STORY: Sydney Airport profits $100m on car parking in one year

Airlines and their passengers have paid up to $1.6 billion too much for airport access over the past decade due to a textbook example of how not to privatise monopoly assets, the competition regulator said. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's (ACCC) latest report into Australia's four biggest airports - Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth - found that profit margins eased slightly for three of the operators last financial year. However, Brisbane Airport's profit margin increased to 44.9 per cent, and Sydney Airport's 46.7 per cent profit margin would be amongst the highest in corporate Australia. The airports have dramatically increased revenue per passenger over the past decade, with Brisbane charges up by two-thirds, Perth 43 per cent, Melbourne almost a third and Sydney up 16 per cent. However, Sydney's charges remain the highest with $17.27 in revenue per passenger. "The airlines are concerned that they keep getting higher charges from the airports and, of course, they've got to pass that on to consumers," ACCC chairman Rod Sims told RN Breakfast.

Airport profit margins

code:
Sydney	Brisbane	Melbourne	Perth
Flight charges	46.7% down 3.4%	44.9% up 1.3%	38.2% down 5.2%	33.5% down 6.7%
Parking fees	73.1% up 1.5%	66.1% down 1.1%	59% down 14.2%	55.6% down 8.1%
Profit margin in 2015-16 financial year and change from previous year. Source: ACCC (Formatting hosed up by Cartoon)

Beyond charges for airlines' use of the tarmac and terminal, Australia's airports are making a killing out of parking. Mr Sims described the airports' car parking profit margins as "quite amazing", and said they get away with such high charges because they also slug taxis, hire cars and shuttle buses with large, and rising, fees to access the airport for drop-offs and pick-ups. "Their access charges have gone up quite a lot, so the airports don't face much competition," he said. "It's a great position to be in where you can have this near monopoly car parking and also make it more difficult for your competitors."

ACCC calls for power to regulate airport charges

Mr Sims said the ACCC would like to be given some specific regulatory powers over airports to limit price increases, but so far it has been denied. "They're completely unregulated. Various governments over time have set them up that way. We've suggested a bit of regulation over time but governments have said they'd rather they stay unregulated," Mr Sims observed. "The airlines certainly would support us having some role here, whether it's a negotiate/arbitrate role on, whether it's some regulatory role on car parking fees. Whenever you have a monopoly that is providing services to average consumers, that have to pay directly through their car parking or indirectly through their airline ticket, I think people do get concerned when they make very high margins."

Mr Sims said such poorly handled privatisations, where governments seek to maximise the sale price by allowing monopolies to operate without regulatory oversight, are a key factor behind community opposition to public asset sales. "They privatised them and simultaneously took the regulations off," he said. "So people saw privatisation and they saw charges go up a lot, I mean the aeronautical charges doubled on Sydney airport. So, of course, don't be surprised when people see privatisation and link it to higher prices because they've seen a lot of it happen." Mr Sims said it was also undoubtedly a mistake for the Howard Government to have given Sydney Airport a first right of refusal to build and own Sydney's second airport at Badgery's Creek, "in order to inflate how much money they could sell Sydney Airport for". "It's fundamentally anti-competitive, and let's hope it doesn't get taken up and we do get an alternative owner," he argued.
Mr Sims said it would be a "great" outcome if the Federal Government built Badgery's Creek, and potentially sold it off to another private owner later. "Not only would you get the benefits of competition between Badgery's Creek and Sydney Airport, but if you have a common owner of the two airports, that common owner will have an incentive to restrict investment at Badgery's Creek and delay Badgery's Creek so that it can maximise its profits at Sydney Airport."
So close Rod but then you done hosed up at the last minute. Also the cold dead hand of JWH reaches up from the grave and fucks us all one more time. What he isn't dead? There is no silver lining here.

Homeland security department? :psyduck:

World Fukt.

In 1978 Australia had a dramatic terror related event and we did literally nothing. It fuelled a further 0.000000000 terror related events. Lets just serve up all our remaining rights as citizens of this wide brown poo poo stain. How bad can it be?

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Jun 20, 2008

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But free speech everybody! Unless your a filthy vagina haver.*

*T & Cs apply. Muslims need not apply, unless you are one of the good ones. Lol right.

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Jun 20, 2008

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bowmore posted:

I didn't assign a gender to those signs

changing them is a waste of money and time that could be better spent elsewhere in that particular fight, like education?
Source your quotes.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Jun 20, 2008

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OK I'll say it once and then we can move on, I hope. There is no significant additional expense in changing the silhouettes on crossing signs. They all need to be changed at some point. The change over is being done on this basis. And as fluff pieces that have completely occupied the 'mainstream' (read rabid right wing misogynist) media go it is pretty insubstantial. Will it significantly improve women's rights and lot in Australia. No.

On the other hand there are apparently more CEOs named John than there are women CEOs and the OECD reports it will be 170 years before women bridge the gender pay gap. There is a real problem here and realigning all of the little subtle ways women are underrepresented and valued is part of the solution.

Also harden the gently caress up princesses and get over it already.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Stalin would choose to live in Toowoomba

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Jun 20, 2008

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Senor Tron posted:

Where to? I suppose Canada is pretty decent at the moment.
They could also have a fascist government at the whim of the media. I recommend the Scandinavian soft socialist countries:- Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Holland(?). A friend lives in Switzerland and likes it. Germany might be OK too.

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Jun 20, 2008

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I'm about to travel O/S and as I do it on a non-Australian passport there is a chance that Broader Farce won't let me back in. I guess that would be a Win-Win.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Bogan King posted:

Dutton is sure as gently caress looking to collect that info now though.
Doesn't need to. The data matching available with the last census means it is all at his fingertips. The legislation protecting it is fragile at best. All it would take is a government minister willing to ride the edges of legality and convention while possibly bullying some public servants into coughing it up. But obviously that could never happen in this country.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Scotty Doesn't Know (Part II) featuring Iggy Abetz

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/morrison-defends-his-ability-ahead-of-may-budget/8342222

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reasurer Scott Morrison has defended his ability to make the Government's economic pitch to voters, saying he is not being sidelined by the Prime Minister. There are concerns inside the Coalition that Mr Morrison's efforts may not be enough to sell the Government's economic policy in the lead-up to the May budget. Government sources said Malcolm Turnbull planned to make a series of keynote speeches over coming weeks to try to form a stronger economic message, but Mr Morrison said that did not mean he was being sidelined. "The Prime Minster is always the chief economic spokesperson for the Government, always has been, always should be," he told the ABC.
lol.

Lets shuffle the deck! Who will be AG? Let me see. Bozzo!? No, too clever. Chuckles!? No, too competent. (etc.)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-09/malcolm-turnbull-to-take-lead-on-economy-from-treasurer/8341202

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7.30 also understands there will be a Cabinet reshuffle after the budget. Attorney-General George Brandis will move on by June, if not to London as High Commissioner then to another prominent position. Senator Brandis will likely be replaced by Social Services Minister Christian Porter or Employment Minister Michaelia Cash, and his position as Government Leader in the Senate would go to Finance Minister Mathias Cormann.

Joyce eyeing portfolio switch

It is understood Nationals leader and Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce is eyeing a switch to the infrastructure portfolio which would see Nationals deputy Fiona Nash taking on agriculture. The deputy Senate leadership would likely go to Cabinet ministers Mitch Fifield or Simon Birmingham, with the job of Manager of Government Business in the Senate to go to either Scott Ryan or James McGrath — both Turnbull loyalists. Once the budget is bedded down, ministers will be asked to prosecute the Government agenda with greater vigour. Energy policy and schools funding are among issues that remain unresolved — both were to be thrashed out by the Prime Minister and premiers at the Council of Australian Government (COAG) meeting, scheduled for April 21. But 7.30 understands the COAG meeting has been postponed until June.
Chaos! Election Now!

Might as well give her some more press coverage...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-09/pauline-hanson-just-a-liberal-puppet-one-nation-candidate/8338880

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One Nation like 'a dictatorship'

Ms Dodd said her own leader was not being straight with the voters or the candidates. "Don't be so dishonest, don't pretend that you are about something and then go and do deals with the Liberals unless you are going to be upfront and tell your candidates before they join that you are just a Liberal puppet," she said. "It makes me feel as though I have been lied to. [It] makes me feel that the party I have joined is dishonest and their only answer to any criticism is, you are disendorsed, suck it up or leave and you are not working as team. It's very hard to work as a team when you are working in a dictatorship."

Ms Dodd's stance adds to the growing dissent in the party over the preference deal with the Liberal Party. The party's candidate for Kalamunda resigned over the deal last week and another candidate was disendorsed after speaking out publicly against it.
Jawohl mein führer!

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Jun 20, 2008

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So many posts So little worth. Looks like I belong here.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Meanwhile in Sydney


#fakeswaggie
#fakesquatter
#fakehipster

Don Dongington posted:

Didn't it used to have one or two token tories..
They get all butt hurt and don't post when their team gets a flogging. Buying ridiculous avatars of the hurt buttocks is their chosen field of conflict. The SA forums equivalent of the coward punch.

Brown Paper Bag posted:

Also no-one can ever compare WA to QLD again.
Well till next time a Western Australian is outted as a blantant racist, an indigenous person dies/is cooked/beaten to death in custody, anyone actually leaves Perth and has a look at say Kalgoolie, but most tellingly, the next election.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Just a quick reminder that in a double blind trial people rated both Coopers Pale Ale and VB as: Undrinkable and failed home brew.

Victoria desperately trying to get poo poo state crown back with 'anti violence law'

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/03/12/09/23/knives-and-knuckle-duster-seized-and-53-arrested-at-melbourne-moomba-festival

Best link I can find to a copper using his capsicum spray indiscriminately like it was Pea Beu. There's a photo (And video) of a guy in a once white T-Shirt that has been tie dyed with capsicum spray. So these laws will send coppers like that to jail for ten years? Or is being a professional violent thug a get of gaol free card.

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Jun 20, 2008

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cohsae posted:

Can we go back to Scott Morrison suggesting that moving to Tamworth constitutes an improvement in quality of life?
Like, compared to what?
Surprised his example wasn't Armidale.

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Jun 20, 2008

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RE- Negative gearing

Just applying the standard ATO "non-commercial loss" provisions:

https://www.ato.gov.au/business/non-commercial-losses/

quote:

You can't claim a loss for a business that is little more than a hobby or lifestyle choice. Even if it has business-like characteristics, if it is unlikely to ever make a profit and doesn't have a significant commercial purpose or character, you can't offset the loss against your other income. In this case, you can defer the loss until you make a profit from the business. This applies whether your business loss from an Australian or a foreign source.

You can only claim losses from genuine business activities. You can't offset losses from hobbies or investments.

Seems to already rule out negative gearing.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Alan Tudge is a reasonably innocuous name for a totalitarian despot. I like the way he dismisses even the measured criticism of his hand picked evaluation team (From the blood sucking poo poo heals in his own department) with a call to the opinion of police officers. He must fancy his leadership chances if he can be suitably inhuman.

On Talking Back the Night (Don't get me started on why even the name sucks) they were bemoaning how PHON doesn't get a fair run in the media. Every caller was a PHON supporter. They didn't in any way see the irony or absurdity.

When the power goes out all over NSW due to violent storms will it be the fault of black coal power stations? Seems only fair that they should cop the blame.

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Jun 20, 2008

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No slut shaming. <:mad:>

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Jun 20, 2008

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ewe2 posted:

I'll just leave a paste of a Chris Kenny footnote here

Also Daisy has been deleting her tweets about the Spectator article, so she must have had smacksies from Rowan.
Another example of the radical left shutting down sensible political debate.

BBJoey posted:

to be fair, i don't think any other countries back an independent investigation; so it's not just us who are enabling genocide, it's everyone :peanut:
BBJoey in being utterly wrong shock development.

That statement is as near to pure distilled inhumanity as you can manufacture. "We look forward to cooperating with Herr Hitler on his 'final solution' ".

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This snowy hydro thing is a distraction. Makes Trampballs look decisive and in charge and poo poo while never being likely to see the light of day. Having said that basin storage is a really good idea and we should be doing it already. But as You Am I has said 'drought, lol'. More to the point if the RET investment goal posts hadn't been doing a supersonic orbit of the playing field we wouldn't even be in this place. That was bad business plain and simple. Speaking of which anything to divert attention from the growing voice on this issue that privatisation has been a disaster.

Doesn't go nearly far enough but it is a small ray of hope.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-16/government-slams-sally-mcmanus-over-union-law-breaking-comments/8358044

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ACTU boss Sally McManus called out by Bill Shorten over union law-breaking comments By political reporter Dan Conifer Updated 45 minutes ago

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has distanced himself from the new head of Australia's union movement, who says she supports breaking the law in some cases.

Key points:

Sally McManus told 7.30 she thought it was okay for workers to break "unjust" laws
"The rule of law is not a smorgasbord to be picked at will," LNP frontbencher James McGrath says
Michaelia Cash says Labor Leader Bill Shorten needs to reject comments, and if he doesn't, "he supports them"
Sally McManus was yesterday elected secretary of the Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU).

In an interview with 7.30, Ms McManus defended law-breaking by the construction union, the CFMEU, and said some industrial laws should be disregarded. "I believe in the rule of law, when the law is fair and the law is right," she said. "But when it's unjust, I don't think there's a problem with breaking it."

In a statement, Mr Shorten said he did not agree with those comments and said that in a democracy those who felt a law was unfair should seek to have it changed. "If you don't like a law, if you think a law is unjust, use the democratic process to get it changed," he said. "That's the great thing about living in a country like Australia. That's what democracy is about. We believe in changing bad laws, not breaking them."

Ms McManus said many CFMEU fines were for unlawful industrial action following workplace deaths.

"It might be illegal industrial action according to our current laws, and our current laws are wrong," she said. "It shouldn't be so hard for workers in our country to be able to take industrial action when they need to."

LNP frontbencher James McGrath said the comments were outrageous. "The rule of law is not a smorgasbord to be picked at will," Senator McGrath said. "It's the entire underpinning of our legal system, indeed of our society. I'm sure people disagree with the speed limit on certain roads, but they obey the speed limit. Taken to the extreme, what she is saying is that the union movement and the unions are not going to obey the rule of law in this country and that is a disgrace."

Employment Minister Michaelia Cash also called on Mr Shorten to repudiate Ms McManus last night. "This is an extraordinary admission by a newly minted union leader that she believes she is above the law and that unions can pick and choose when they obey the law and when they do not," Senator Cash said in a statement.
GENERAL STRIKE NOW!

This is a great opportunity to cull your facebook (etc.) anyone who harps on about 'rule of law' in this context is not worth bothering with.

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Solemn Sloth posted:

If that's the case it would actually increase emissions intensity because you lose around 30% of power by using pumped hydro for storage.
On the low end actually:

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Pumped storage is the largest-capacity form of grid energy storage available, and, as of 2017, the DOE Global Energy Storage Database reports that PSH accounts for over 96% of all active tracked storage installations worldwide, with a total installed nameplate capacity of over 168 GW.[3] The round-trip energy efficiency of PSH varies between 70%–80%,[4][5][6][7] with some sources claiming up to 87%.[8]
Which is why it was specifically designed in most cases to soak up the unneeded (and therefore technically free) power from :siren: Nuclear :siren: plants. Nuclear plants are generally very long start up/shut down time generators and respond very poorly in unmoderated base load applications.

My take on this, if it isn't dumped immediately due to "viciously uncooperative state governments with an axe to grind", is that it will be dropped at some point allowing the Tories to have a spray at "another renewable technology that promised much but failed to deliver".

Are we still poo poo?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-16/no-appetite-for-innovation-to-tackle-indigenous-disadvantage/8358840

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'No appetite for innovation' to tackle Indigenous disadvantage, close the gap RN By Cathy Van Extel for Breakfast Posted about 2 hours ago

An Indigenous organisation training kids to be health ambassadors in their communities says Australian governments have no appetite for innovation in efforts to close the gap. The most recent report card showed Australia is failing six out of the seven key measures to address Indigenous disadvantage including life expectancy, child mortality and health. Malpa Project chief executive Don Palmer believes the Government is ignoring proven solutions. "There are real solutions the Government ought to attend to but the history is the Government defunds things that work, and funds things that don't work," he says. "So they repeat those mistakes over and over again. There is no appetite for innovation and those in government have run out of ideas, and refuse to listen to other ideas that do work, of which ours is just one."

The Malpa Project is a non-government funded organisation established four years ago in response to the lack of progress in closing the gap. Its Young Doctors program trains 9 and 10-year-old children to be health ambassadors for their communities by teaching health literacy, nutrition, hygiene, leadership and environmental health. They learn both western and traditional medicine and healing from Indigenous doctors, clinicians, and healers. So far 600 Young Doctors have graduated from the program in 40 remote, regional and metropolitan communities in NSW, NT, South Australia, Victoria and the ACT. A further 450 Young Doctors will be trained this year. In each case Malpa has been invited by the community. Mr Palmer believes the program's success lies in the fact that it is community-led, not imposed. "We've created a system where elders in the community work out what they think their kids need to be healthy and have a long life, and then they choose two of their local people to be the leaders," he says. "Those leaders then bring in experts from within the community, and that might be other Indigenous doctors or traditional knowledge holders who teach the old ways of medicine, but also local western doctors through the Indigenous Doctors Association."

As well as teaching children health and hygiene, the Young Doctors program is community capacity building. "We can point to so many different examples, and we've evaluated them all," Mr Palmer says. "We know we get school attendance up around 98 per cent, we know we get kids saying they're happy to go to a doctor whereas before they weren't. "And we know parents are saying they're happy to become involved in the life of the school whereas before they never felt that school was a place that welcomed them at all. "Lots and lots of benefits are happening out of this."
Note: This isn't being funded by the government. Any comment Nigel?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-03/scullion-appeal-against-10m-grant-to-health-group-dismissed/8323798

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Federal Court dismisses Senator Nigel Scullion's appeal against $10m grant to health group By Sara Everingham Posted 3 Mar 2017, 7:29pm

The full bench of the Federal Court has dismissed an appeal by the Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion over a dispute with an organisation that helps sufferers of an incurable neurodegenerative disease. Senator Scullion had appealed against a previous decision to allow the Machado Joseph Disease (MJD) Foundation to keep a $10-million grant that had been promised by his predecessor Jenny Macklin. But the Federal Court dismissed his appeal. Senator Scullion told Senate Estimates earlier on Friday it was likely the Government would accept the decision. "Well I haven't seen the court's ruling but I think it is useful to say that we're unlikely to appeal … it's unlikely this will be appealed to the High Court," he said.

What is Machado Joseph disease?

Results in a lack of muscle control and coordination of the upper and lower extremities
Symptoms include memory deficits, spasticity, difficulty with speech and swallowing, weakness in arms and legs, clumsiness, frequent urination, involuntary eye movements
Symptoms are caused by a genetic mutation
Commonly mistaken for drunkenness and Parkinson's disease
Eventually leads to paralysis and carriers are expected to live only to their mid-thirties
Northern Territory Labor senator Malarndirri McCarthy called on the Federal Government to rule out any prospect of a further appeal.

"The Federal Government needs to pay the money that is so deservedly needed by the MJD Foundation," she said. The MJD Foundation was set up in 2008 to assist people in Arnhem Land living with the hereditary neurological disorder, Machado Joseph Disease. In 2012 the foundation applied for a $10-million increase to its grant from the Aboriginal Benefits Account (ABA) based on evidence that the disease was affecting a growing number of people, and that sufferers were showing symptoms at younger ages. The then-federal minister for Indigenous affairs, Labor MP Jenny Macklin, directed the $10 million be withdrawn from the ABA, which is made up of royalties from mining on Aboriginal Land in the Northern Territory. But before the grant was handed over, the Coalition won the 2013 federal election and the incoming minister Nigel Scullion sought to revoke the grant.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2017/02/14/life-expectancy-target-unrealistic--scullion.html

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Life expectancy target unrealistic: Scullion Updated: 9:07 pm, Tuesday, 14 February 2017

Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion says closing the Aboriginal life expectancy gap is 'unrealistic' A target to close the life expectancy gap for indigenous Australians by 2031 is 'unrealistic', Indigenous Affairs Minister Nigel Scullion has told parliament. 'This target, let's be frank, was ambitious and unrealistic in such a short time frame,' he said, hours after the prime minister handed down the ninth annual Closing the Gap report on Tuesday. The minister told Sky News says the poor results are an opportunity to refresh. 'There is a new type of target, a smart target,' he said. He says the life-expectancy gap should be amended. The report found a target to halve the gap in mortality rates between indigenous and non-indigenous children by 2018 was not on track, nor was another to close the overall gap in life expectancy by 2031.
"We're not on track to achieve a goal!" "Well move the goal posts you muppet!"

You'd laugh but then when would you find time to cry?

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Jun 20, 2008

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JBP posted:

It's a joke due to that being a commonly used phrase and we are talking about duels.
Humour? :monocle: Not on MY AusPol :toughguy:

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Jun 20, 2008

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Solemn Sloth posted:

When even the yelling economics guy on morning tv tells you your policy is dumb within 24 hours you really are hosed for ideas
Once you are this far down the rabbit hole what better time to turn on the Nuclear distractor?

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/03/17/lets-have-debate-nuclear-power-pm

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17 MAR 2017 - 3:34AM Let's have debate on nuclear power: PM

Malcolm Turnbull says the debate about whether to develop a nuclear power station in Australia is important but such a project would take many years to develop. Nuclear power would demand political consensus and take many years to develop but it is a debate worth having, the prime minister says. Malcolm Turnbull made the remark after spruiking his $2 billion expansion of the Snowy Hydro scheme and following weeks of unceasing discussion about gas, coal and renewable energy. The Minerals Council of Australia has called for the blanket ban on nuclear power to be lifted after 11 coalition government MPs publicly declared it should be included in the energy mix. Mr Turnbull says establishing a nuclear power station would need a high degree of bipartisanship because its development would span the lives of various governments from different parties. "But even assuming you had all of that, it would take many, many, many years to build. It's not something that could be done in four or five years, let alone two or three years," he told Sydney's 2GB Radio. "I think it's an important debate to have but in the near term and in the medium term, storage is a very critical necessity."
The minerals council argued nuclear power was reliable, affordable, safe and a proven technology that produced close to zero carbon emissions.

e;fb BUT I have a source and a quote :smug:

So what happened when Dysen Heydon (Head of ABCC Royal commission) spoke at a Liberal party fund raiser?

It was free speech and how dare anyone attack such a figure of respect and decency (etc.) and no he didn't step down AND he refused to front a senate committee into fair work legislation. George Brandis vehemently supported him. I did like this : - Julian Burnside QC, has said this morning that he's a man of honour".[33] Burnside said "Heydon is an honourable man. I give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he is honourable enough to step down."[33]

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Jun 20, 2008

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In the upper and lower house.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Solemn Sloth posted:

Abbott is a 100% santamaria cloven catholic
Not empty quoting, nosiree Bob!

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Jun 20, 2008

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freebooter posted:

Like, who the gently caress only cares about interest? I'm no economist but surely it has far more to do with the obstinate cultural mindset that house prices always go up and are always a safe investment, which can only be a self-fulfilling prophecy for so long.
It would be naive to suggest low interest rates were the only reason for the protracted expansion of the bubble. However the fact that lower interest rates means more money is available to the borrower also means there is pressure on prices to rise. One of the main objections to home owner grants is that final purchase price just goes up by that amount because what can be afforded is the ultimate measure of price.

JBP posted:

Is there any rational reason the LNP got a bump in polls outside of Snowy river? I've felt like they were losing momentum and looking awful lately. What have I missed if anything?

TheMightyHandful posted:

Aren't you better to dump him after when you are going to lose anyway?
This is a long bow indeed but perhaps the fourth estate have also concluded that this government is doomed. Strapping their hated kick toy Trampsballs to the plummeting biplane would be an appropriate act of spite.

I have been hoping NTATA would actually snatch the glittering prize he has white anted so long for (ala K. Rudd) but it seems the fates won't grant me that simple pleasure.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Solemn Sloth posted:

Oh also I don't think there's any coincidence about the ferals deciding to roll Turnbull over on 18C on harmony day(also the UN day for the elimination of racial discrimination)
You actually think that this mob could organise anything with this level of precision? They struggle to get the white wash down the correct hooped trousers on a good day. Also assumes they either knew or cared that it was racial harmony day.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

And from those two photos I wouldn't be surprised if he were gay or bi himself.
gently caress all the way off.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Well the 18C boondoggle continues to work as designed. The front pages of the gutter press and the airwaves of the gutter jock were full of racist bleatings to the tune of Bill Leaks Opus No18C. The Arsetralian is trumpeting that Bill Leak's death was what brought about the change. Not that anything has changed yet. I'm not a racist but, gently caress those <insert race of choice>. Multicultural means you are free to put what ever race you want in the <insert race of choice>.

The amount of hate being spewed out over Gillard becoming head of Beyond Blue is mind boggling.

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Jun 20, 2008

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And prior to the distraction of the London attack:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-23/senate-passes-smaller-savings-to-fund-childcare-forms/8378338

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Government's childcare rebate closer as Senate passes smaller package of savings to fund reforms By political reporter Alexandra Beech Updated about 5 hours ago

The Senate has passed a range of savings the Federal Government says are needed to pay for its childcare package. Key points:

Government put forward small savings package separate to original omnibus savings bill
It came after crossbenchers rejected any changes that threatened family welfare
Labor is still opposed the inclusion of a two-year freeze on the indexation of family tax benefits

The Upper House sat until just after midnight debating the legislation on Wednesday evening. The Government had initially wrapped the childcare changes into its so-called omnibus savings bill, which included $4 billion of savings and cuts to family tax benefits and paid parental leave. The crossbench made it clear it would not support the changes unless they were decoupled from cuts to family welfare. The Government compromised, putting forward a smaller package of savings.
Labor said it still opposed the inclusion of a two-year freeze on the indexation of family tax benefits, which Labor Senator Doug Cameron said would put Australia on the path to American-style welfare. "The needy in this country pushed to the side for an American system," he said. Senator Cameron warned crossbenchers against backing the legislation. "If you agree to this tonight, it's only the start," he said. "This is only the first attack, the attacks will continue from this government."

But Finance Minister Mathias Cormann dismissed that, saying the savings were "reasonable and fair". "No family will actually receive less as a result of the changes before us today," Senator Cormann told the chamber. (:lol:)

Lambie uses own experience to attack cuts

In a fiery debate, crossbench senator Jacqui Lambie lashed out at One Nation for supporting the government's legislation. "I'll give One Nation some advice," she said. "You know why Clive Palmer didn't survive and PUP? I'll tell you why they didn't survive. Because Clive did dirty deals with the Libs. He stopped doing what he said he'd do for the battler. He was full of it, just like One Nation." The attack came after Senator Lambie called for the Government to reconsider the welfare savings, speaking of her own struggles as a mother on the disability support pension for seven years. She told the chamber there were times she couldn't afford to buy her son football shoes that fit properly or pay school fees. "It is shameful and embarrassing, but we do it not because we want to but because circumstances put us there," she said. "And for you to take more money off those people, you have no idea how bloody tough it is."

But One Nation leader Pauline Hanson rejected Senator Lambie's criticism.

"One Nation has not done any deals with the government with relation to this bill," she said. "We have looked at the bill in relation in relation to what is good for the Australian people."

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Jun 20, 2008

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Can someone please actually pub test this.

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Jun 20, 2008

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I find it hard to imagine Barnaby's skin is edible.

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Jun 20, 2008

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Has there ever been any research into the effects (economic/sociological (etc))of the enormous Orthodox Greek community in Melbourne? That would be interesting ammo to throw in the face of the current crop of bigotted xenophobes, especially the ones with really woggy names.

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