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Dec 17, 2008

xzzy posted:

It was a "rivalry" because they're both recent cup champions I guess.

And yes it was a pretty badass game. Only one penalty the whole game.. that's the way it should be. Just let the skill guys go at it.

it was a good game but there was definitely some penalty-worthy obstruction in that game and they really need to call that poo poo

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Dec 17, 2008
ill bet its strange to mark streit to have to go into action against his old team, the tampa bay lightning, so quickly after getting traded...funny how hockey works sometimes...

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Dec 17, 2008

Jamwad Hilder posted:

The expansion draft takes place before trading can resume.

I thought the trade deadline was only the end of the period in which you could trade players and have them still be eligible to participate in the playoffs, and that actually you can trade year round except for the Christmas roster freeze?

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Dec 17, 2008

JoelJoel posted:

Also, goalies get such great returns. Hell, he might even fetch a conditional 3rd if the bidding war really gets out if hand.

so then it should be cheap to buy off vegas then because goalies are apparently worthless

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Dec 17, 2008

Aphrodite posted:

Didn't they wipe that rule?

They did, but teams still have to give up picks for coaches/management hired while that rule was in effect if they haven't already.

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Dec 17, 2008

Kilza posted:

Considering they do things like this it shouldn't be much of a surprise:
https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/838204041633103872

gently caress i was going to post the same play

i almost cant bear to rewatch it, its so cringeworthy

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Dec 17, 2008

ehnus posted:

With all the fired coaches and GM being complete dogshit, and idiot teams doing idiot things like rehiring them, I'd think the league would want to keep them out as long as possible if they want the quality of play to go up.

when you look at how guys like hakstol, desjardins, johnston, and bednar have done, you can kind of see why teams keep going to the retreads though. granted except for johnston those are all guys whose teams have had serious roster deficiencies too

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Dec 17, 2008
the rangers just really want to lock down the wild card spot and slide over to the atlantic, thats all

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Dec 17, 2008

Krime posted:

I can honestly see him staying on a 1 year deal that is extremely team friendly.

I kind of wonder if a team like Edmonton or Toronto would offer him more because of intangibles or something - a guy who's won Cups, Olympic gold, played extensively with Crosby (and Malkin, hell, with Selanne and Niedermeyer too), Knows What it Takes to Win...I can see Lamoriello or Chiarelli thinking he'd be a good influence to have around McDavid or Matthews.

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Dec 17, 2008
Aside from times where injuries have left holes in the lineup, Kunitz has generally been off of Crosby's line and off the first power play, at least. Conor Sheary has mercifully put an end to Kunitz with Crosby for the most part.

Also free Hornqvist. I miss him on the top line even if Sheary and Guentzel are probably legitimately the most talented wingers Sid's ever had outside of Team Canada. I have no idea why Hornqvist is on the third line except to try and balance out Bonino's horrible fancystats with Hornqvist's awesome ones.

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Dec 17, 2008
https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/838521827538452481

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Dec 17, 2008

tofes posted:

hockey is a bad sport just use coin flips for everything instead

now that would be the kind of parity that would keep fans of all 31 teams tuning in every night!

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Dec 17, 2008
I'm glad Orpik is the Caps' problem now so I can enjoy his tough guy antics blowing up in his face like that

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Dec 17, 2008

but you could have one team retain 50% and another team retain 50% on top of that, though you couldn't take it further because a player can only have salary retained by up to two teams

i have a hard time imagining how such a scenario would happen without everybody involved getting smacked down for their obvious collusion but i guess it's technically possible

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Dec 17, 2008

JoelJoel posted:

Is the second retention applied to the principle or the balance?

Like player x has a cap hit of 1 mil. Team a trades him to team b and retains 50, making team b's cap hit .5 mil. When team B trades him to team c and retains 50% is teams c's hit .25 mil or 0?

If it's the latter, can this sort of deal go down in a 3-way trade or does it need to be two separate deals?

i don't know to be honest, i'm guessing it's the balance because two teams giving a third team a player literally for free sounds like too big of an oversight even for the nhl. i'd assume it also needs to be two separate deals, though it could probably effectively be a three way deal - the penguins are actually paying less than half of mark streit's salary because philadelphia retained 4.7% before sending him to tampa bay, and tampa retained 50% of the remainder, and while it was technically two trades, it could probably be looked at as effectively a three way deal as the speed with which streit was sent to pittsburgh would make it seem likely a deal was in place before streit was even traded to tampa.

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Dec 17, 2008

They need to just bite the bullet and make the nets bigger, all these tiny little changes they make are towards essentially the same end but the way they're taking is getting more and more convoluted and all these little changes create their own, unpredictable knockon effects.

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Dec 17, 2008

Slappy Pappy posted:

If you score a power play goal, power play time resets to two minutes.

just the kind of proposal you'd expect from a caps fan :colbert:

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Dec 17, 2008
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/839693453600649216

i'm guessing it must be a shoulder or elbow thing that probably needs surgery but they're hoping not because it would end his season. i'm going to take their word on it not being a concussion considering this season they've generally been open about players having concussions (like saying hornqvist was diagnosed with one literally as i was typing this)

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Dec 17, 2008
you gotta admire sestito's efficiency though, some goons are sent out every game for a fight here, a dirty hit there, spending 95% of their time mostly just making GBS threads up the ice trying (and failing) to play real hockey. sestito just goes out there and gets into a fight, throws a dirty hit, and gets ejected all in the first three shifts in his first game up from wilkes-barre

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Dec 17, 2008
holtby won the vezina last season despite being on the caps and not having the best sv% because He Just Wins

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Dec 17, 2008
malkin had to fight wheeler anyway despite sestito being there, then sestito had a literally 100% pointless fight with thorburn off of a faceoff, and even if hypothetically these two events "defused tensions" or "blew off steam" or whatever "the code" says these things do, we'll never know because like 10 minutes later sestito's garbage hit got everybody pissed at each other again anyway with two and a half periods of hockey left to play.

oh yeah and he literally broke enstrom's face as far as i know.

the worst part is going to be when sestito gets like two games because enstrom looked sestito in the face before turning his back to him and getting destroyed.

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Dec 17, 2008
https://mobile.twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/839989360250494976

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Dec 17, 2008
but seriously they probably should have suspended malkin for the last game and, i dunno, at least called some penalties on buff and lowry if not handed out supplemental discipline for them too. this poo poo happened because the league officials hosed up and malkin made a lovely hit in retaliation for lovely unpenalized winnipeg hits, then because malkin got off scott free everybody knew winnipeg would want to get back at him so sestito gets called up for "protection" and then he went killed a guy who didn't even do anything but wear a jets sweater. now who loving knows what the next game between the pens and jets holds because there's sure to be some hard feelings from this now too

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Dec 17, 2008

Slappy Pappy posted:

To be fair, only approximately 89% of all the people in the world are right-handed.

but only about 40% of nhl hockey players shoot right

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Dec 17, 2008

deoju posted:

People care entirely too much about numbers.

If he didn't have 'character issues' and was white, people would be saying what classy move it was to honor Lemieux.

to be honest i haven't seen that much outrage over it. i remember listening to mark madden's show about a week ago (i know, i know) and brian metzer was guest hosting. his take was pretty stupid and he was trying to goad callers (since it's usually yinzer central) into agreeing with him but most callers were like "yeah my gut reaction was that i don't like it since it's unofficially retired and all, but the islanders didn't retire 66 and he's wearing it in tribute of lemieux so if he wants to do that it's not a big deal". obviously if you go looking there's going to be dumbasses but this seems to be one of those things where people are getting upset pre-emptively in defense of a guy who actually isn't creating much controversy

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Dec 17, 2008
https://mobile.twitter.com/cjzero/status/840413847169224705/video/1

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Dec 17, 2008
speaking of ovi what's up with him? he's on pace to score like, 33 goals this season. did he just get tired of winning the rocket richard or something? obviously 33 is a pretty good number of goals to score but by ovechkin standards thats a little low

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Dec 17, 2008
is designing a bigger net harder than adjusting goalie equipment? because it's going to take them until next season, at earliest, to complete a change in goaltending equipment that was supposed to be accomplished this summer. according to the nhl, there's too much goalie, not enough net to shoot at. goalies are already bitching about the new pants being less protective, imagine how butthurt they'll be over new chest protectors (and having to wear smaller jerseys but those don't protect anything except their sv%) so hey, let them keep their protection, just use it to keep pucks out of a bigger net then.

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Dec 17, 2008
it turns out ray shero dealing away all those early round draft picks wasn't such a big deal after all because if you draft/sign a bunch of tiny dudes from the ncaa who can skate really fast and score that's almost as good

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Dec 17, 2008
kid should have kept his head up, somewhere beyond shatt's vertical

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Dec 17, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

Apparently Mark Streit got hit in the balls last game or something so even the Pens' replacement d are getting hurt now.

Streit's the guy who broke his dick with the Flyers too right? That poor man.

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Dec 17, 2008

Chows posted:

WAY TO GO, PAUL

freaking paul, always doing this crap

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Dec 17, 2008
It's not exactly set in stone that any of Pittsburgh, Washington, or Columbus will be able to count on having home ice either given how close they all are in the standings.

E: yeah under the old system that post would have made a lot more sense

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Dec 17, 2008
Could you imagine if Ron Hainsey, he of 900 regular season and zero playoff games, were to be injured such that he was unable to play any postseason games with the first playoff bound team he's ever been on.

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Dec 17, 2008

Ginette Reno posted:

Malkin won't play tonight because of an upper body injury and they'll know more in 24 hours. lol.

Geno went down to block a shot for the first time in his life and all it go him was a dumb injury smh

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Dec 17, 2008
https://twitter.com/CallumFraser18/status/843265730418266112

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Dec 17, 2008

ElwoodCuse posted:

Melnyk is right, there is no benefit at all to teams having guys go play in the Olympics

That's a reasonable position, the part where he went "...but I might let him go anyway if he was Canadian" is not.

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Dec 17, 2008
Well we know at least that Ovechkin and presumably any other potential Olympians on the Caps roster will get to go unless the league itself sanctions them, though Ovi could probably afford to not give a poo poo about that either with a fat stack of KHL cash surely waiting for him if he wants it.

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Dec 17, 2008

ElwoodCuse posted:

We have this Tom Sestito

unfortunately

but we also have this phil kessel, thankfully

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/843522005563576320

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Dec 17, 2008

Look Around You posted:

At the rate at which the pens have been getting injured, it's not outside of the realm of possibility.

does carter rowney count? he was playing in the echl as recently as 14-15

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