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Yooper posted:
Bottom, definitely. Looks more stylish and gives a better sense of perspective. Also, since we're talking about it, you got a time set up for the operation stream?
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2017 23:51 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 20:02 |
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Final combat report: JESUS loving CHRIST WHAT THE gently caress But we survived.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 03:18 |
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Loel posted:Oh! Oh! There aren't enough elephants in the world to properly compensate for what happened today.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 03:36 |
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Loel posted:That is a lot of elephants I maintain my statement. Also, quoting this for truth from the post-stream chat: Official motto of the Sk60 pilots as coined by Psahwn: "You either live to irrelevance, or you die a dragon slayer."
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 03:44 |
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Definitely rolling with K&P, we really don't need many more Frogfoots and there aren't enough F-15s to justify going American.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 16:08 |
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power crystals posted:By the way I want to reiterate a proposal I mentioned in stream chat yesterday - the SK60 pilots should get first dibs on being promoted out of those aircraft into anything new that we buy before the new pilots get assigned. They did their duties, they deserve something better! As an Sk60 pilot who would not like to gamble his life every time he goes into a sortie, I wholeheartedly agree with this proposal. Let the new guys have the Sk60s for as long as they're functional.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 16:40 |
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Jimmy4400nav posted:Looks like it didn't get posted there, but I have a link! Nice to actually have, y'know, respectable opponents in this madhouse of a theater. I'm almost sad they're gone. Almost. LostCosmonaut posted:Not an emptyquote. Look man, we already talked about it during the last stream and concluded that China's going to be the final boss anyway. It can wait.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 18:55 |
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Question: is there any reason our Sperwer drones can't do the same tactic of "hover just below missile ceiling, fly up when fired upon?" That seems like the best solution here.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 01:29 |
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Worth pointing out that Jack is sticking his neck out just as much on those defectors. We ignore them, we might lose him as a future contact, and if this whole thing is any indication that's probably not worth it. Given the amount of territory and airfields we hold in the east, I'd err towards the Kfirs heading from that direction into our territory. Meaning that we could probably station a few Gripens and Phantoms at Menongue and have them run some light CAP in the area, and at the end of the day they'd still be available for escorting the Kfirs to one of the nearby airfields.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 02:38 |
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Random Axis posted:Also nth-ing K&P the single F-15 is cool but would need to be paired up with one of our lesser planes as a wingman. Indeed. The only plane an F-15 is allowed to wingman for is another F-15. Galm paint schemes optional
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 03:41 |
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I'm trying to put together an op that focuses on clearing out the radar installations and other threats on the east side. That's easy access to two more mines, and putting together an op near the center gives us an opportunity to get those four Kfirs. The issue is response time; our longest range weapons are cruise missiles that will take around 20 minutes from launch to impact to travel the maximum range to the airport. While not designed explicitly for taking out runways, the massive warheads on the cruise missiles should have enough damage to gently caress up the runway temporarily and prevent additional fighters from taking off. Doing this would require cutting off the access road to the strip instead of the runway itself, as the Kfir's take-off distance doesn't seem to be all that much. Like the others have said, that sounds a tad overambitious; odds are the cruise missiles would get shot down on the way to or at the airfield itself. I'd argue for a wide-scale hit and fade op across the better part of the region that focuses mostly on the center and west sides. Barring the Bulgarian group near our border (which we should use a more dedicated strike to deal with) there aren't that many targets actively threatening us. Best we can do right now is raise hell wherever we can, cause chaos across the Dictators lines, keep his forces guessing as to where the next strike is going to be and generally weaken the front line while we still have maximum air superiority. As for the Kfirs...in more detail there are two truly viable vectors for them to come in on, dependent on which airport they launch from. The first is basically cutting through the center of Angola roughly between the two Dictator airports; this is unfortunately the far riskier of the two for obvious reasons but our strikes could probably cause enough havoc to create a semi-viable escape route. The second, and much better option for all parties involved, is that they come in from the far east side, skirting the borders of Zaire and the Congo. There would be far less risk of the planes getting shot down by Dictator SAMs, but at the same time there's not much out their on our side either. Both routes should have contingency plans written for them.
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# ¿ May 1, 2017 04:14 |
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Davin Valkri posted:There are only two Japanese names in that plan, and I gave him pronunciation guides in the script, so SHUT YOUR MOUTH. I kind of hope there's a moment where he reads out the name, then pauses and mutters "who the gently caress came up with these names anyway..." power crystals posted:Well now that's just cheating Ever seen any of the Combat Mission threads? People love making silly names for location purposes (though for some weird reason Pokemon is always the most popular pattern from what I've seen)
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# ¿ May 5, 2017 04:47 |
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We stay. His offer would be far more persuasive if he wasn't just reduced to a handful of land and just had his HQ hit by us. Our side owns practically half of Angola at this point. We'd be idiots to leave now.
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# ¿ May 7, 2017 21:19 |
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Yooper posted:Though one more faction is coming into the mix. A container ship arrived in South Africa two days ago along with a wing of the F-22 Export models. They lacked any logo except a dim gray T. Balls. Hopefully we won't ever be seeing any of those planes over our airspace since we own most of the country's lithium mines now but...gently caress. Even knowing those things could be in play scares the poo poo out of me. Also we may have accidentally started a chain of events that's turning the world into Shadowrun without the magic/Ace Combat 3 without the cyberpunk/Syndicate...actually Syndicate's looking like what's happening here. Yeah. We win, then we loving run like hell...unless we get hired.
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# ¿ May 12, 2017 16:06 |
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Yooper posted:Voting Closed Can you or anyone in the thread give us a tally of who voted for what, and have people who are undecided or who voted for plans that didn't make the top 3 have the chance to be swing votes? That sounds like a good idea to me.
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# ¿ May 12, 2017 17:38 |
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Groggy nard posted:This is Armored Core as gently caress and I love it, bring on the Assault Cells! TBH at this point I'm totally expecting this thread to turn into a reenactment of Armored Core 4, only with a coherent plot and done in the style of Ace Combat.
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 00:47 |
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Thefluffy posted:it depends on if you like planes or mechs more really You can have both. Haven't you ever seen Macross?
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 01:43 |
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Thefluffy posted:well the issue with that is CMANO has no mechs (Baloogan add mechs) Honestly if he did that then you would have Mobile Suit Gundam: The Grog Game. Which honestly seems like a logical progression at this point so I'd be all sorts of okay with it even if I never played it.
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 02:24 |
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paragon1 posted:What harm could there be in asking a military AI how it would destroy the PRC's air force? I'm fairly certain that's how AM was born, or at least close enough that it's probably a terrible idea.
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 03:20 |
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Crazycryodude posted:Ok so the LP finale needs to take place on Mars, and now involve an experimental AI that we've handed over control of our aircraft to. Shaping up to be a real interesting future. So what I'm hearing is that it would be some unholy fusion of Macross Plus, Armored Core 2, and Ace Combat 3. Do I have that right?
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# ¿ May 13, 2017 03:51 |
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Yooper posted:
OH THOSE FUCKERS TOOK CREDIT FOR OUR LUANDA STRIKE THOSE BASTARDS!
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 05:04 |
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Loel posted:I mean - does anyone care? We get NYT front page, they get podcasts with 12 downloads. We might lose out on potential contractors because of that! Think of how much we can sell ourselves by saying that we successfully carried out an airstrike on a heavily fortified target in the middle of a large city without any civilian casualties! That poo poo's practically gold in the merc world!
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 05:08 |
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Loel posted:So ... lets buy the other merc team, get them to put up our flags at the last second, and take all the Free Staters hostage. If you're talking about the Thunderdome in the Phoenix Command thread, they just finished another round by having a dude shank another dude in the neck with scissors. He lived...surprisingly...
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 05:12 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Maybe he'll be dumb enough to buy Sealand or his own sovereign island, then we can find some angry ex-free staters to pay us some pocket change to fire a few cruise missiles at it. Why stop there? Why not go for the full SBD Death Blossom Special?
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 05:30 |
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Loel posted:
Honestly just running some CAS in the area near the sole Free State mine and allowing Von Hoff's forces to get a big enough push to make it to that mine is also a viable option. And while we haven't officially started the planning stages for this yet, I'd like to point out that we are really going to need Emergency ROEs for Tesla, Apple, or China showing up during the final op. There's basically a 100% guarantee at this point that the skies around Luanda are going to turn into the clusterfuck of the century as the opening shots of the First Economic War are fired so we really need to be ready for that.
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 17:11 |
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If we swing this right, we might even be able to make it into a false flag operation: have our planes or missiles come in from the direction of Luanda and the problem resolves itself. After all, would the rest of the world believe the ravings of an obviously mad dictator?
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 21:10 |
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Sink dat bote
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# ¿ May 14, 2017 22:02 |
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1. Liberty 2. Sovereign Citizen 3. Crazy Yahweh I'd like to point out that the "Big Fella" plan currently puts our AWACS at serious risk of being shot down by an errant METEOR or equivalent thereof if planes are scrambled in Luanda. Can we please get that part revised so that it stays near our forces, because I'm honestly not seeing the benefit of moving it to the position that plan currently indicates.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 19:35 |
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Quinntan posted:Would you prefer something like this? I'm not sure I understand why you're sending it into the middle of the ocean as opposed to having it hover over our SAM-protected lines. That AWACS' range should be able to pick up what needs to be picked up from Benguela.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 19:42 |
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Quinntan posted:Airspace and ocean traffic monitoring is why. I want to get as good a picture as we can of what is going on in dictator territory as well as on the seas, so we need to have it further up from benguela. Wouldn't the Reaper + Gorgon's Stare be a better fit for this then? Let me be clear here, I'm honestly just paranoid about sending the AWACS anywhere without proper defenses because it's literally the most valuable plane in our inventory right now and losing it would be nothing short of catastrophic.
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# ¿ May 15, 2017 20:03 |
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Bacarruda posted:
I'd be fine with this so long as I'm not one of the guys piloting those loving things anymore. I've done my time, god knows I've been cheating death every time I go up in one of those things, so I'd appreciate the ability to never have to touch one of those things ever again. (OOC: This seems legit so long as we Sk60 pilots can stick around and transfer to better planes.)
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# ¿ May 20, 2017 20:13 |
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Yooper posted:Plane chat. Real talk, I do actually like the idea of limiting the SDB Death Blossom strategy. Right now our main problem with it is that there are too many targets and even then that's still not that much of an issue...but that does cheapen things just a bit from a gameplay perspective. Using the SDB Death Blossom should be much like its namesake-a weapon of last resort. It'd be much cooler to see it when it happens then.
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# ¿ May 21, 2017 01:22 |
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Relatedly: Anyone who doesn't have "The Liberation of Gracemeria" playing in the background when they're watching the stream/video/whatever when that comes around is a killjoy and should feel bad for themselves (Seriously, we're making a final push to liberate Luanda, there is literally no reason not to use that as BGM!)
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# ¿ May 21, 2017 06:09 |
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No matter what we do can we please please pleaaaaaase sell off the last Sk60s? Their novelty value has long since faded and I'd like to actually be able to contribute to operations in ways that don't get summed up as "missile magnet."
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# ¿ May 22, 2017 15:39 |
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Since we're done with procurement, can I make a formal request to you all/Yooper to retire the Sk60s? We've been talking about it as a Thing that needs to be done but I'm worried it'll be forgotten again if we don't do it, and as we've discussed they've long since outstayed their welcome.
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# ¿ May 25, 2017 01:16 |
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Yooper posted:Now would be the time you guys could suggest selling stuff. Well when you put it like that... I put forth the motion to sell off our Sk60Bs. They're seriously no longer worth keeping around in the slightest, are more liabilities than assets in the air, and are a headache for our mission planners to try and involve in a token effort to keep them relevant.
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# ¿ May 25, 2017 01:42 |
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Crazycryodude posted:Again, can we work out something like retiring them to a museum/display squadron instead of selling them off? Definitely want to get rid of them, but drat it if I want to hang onto a little piece of their story. I'm assuming that that will be part of the process of selling them off narratively, but right now I'm more concerned about the mechanical action of "selling" the planes. We can totally say that when we "sell" them they become part of a display squadron or something but for the love of loving god let's resolve to get rid of these things before we worry about the fine details.
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# ¿ May 25, 2017 01:46 |
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Sell the Sk60s and AMXs As for location...Balkans. It sounds to me like it would be maximum Electrosphere AND maximum Armored Core at the same time if we worked there. How could you say no to that!? Plus in all sincerity there's probably going to be more variety in missions as opposed to the Bering Sea where it would always be some flavor of "go to here, blow up bote and planes near bote," or "make sure they don't blow up our bote." Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 03:23 on May 25, 2017 |
# ¿ May 25, 2017 03:19 |
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I'm still honestly baffled at how the thread collectively ended up going for a set of missions that they didn't like for a company whose styles they hate in a region that they don't want to be in. Seriously, why didn't you guys choose the Balkans again?
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# ¿ May 27, 2017 17:48 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 20:02 |
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Honestly knowing how our arrival in whatever AO tends to cause things to escalate dramatically I think it'll be fine. Enough poo poo will go crazy that we'll have to be constantly improving.
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# ¿ May 29, 2017 03:20 |