Majorian posted:

Bernie et al. have done a much better job of reaching out to these communities since the primary; I hope they keep working on it.

Majorian posted:

Well, but there was a big push for an EPA among the public for years; it's not like Nixon created it out of strong, personal conviction. Clinton would probably have bowed to public pressure and done the right thing, if she were in his shoes.

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

but they didn't realise you were so insufferable.

fsif posted:

On the Media recently did a piece on Montana voters and it does dampen the good feeling of Quist drastically out polling Clinton. The story made it sound like Montana's voting habits don't really map as neatly onto other Republican-leaning districts as we'd like and that a big part of the state's political identity is tied up in the notion that Montanans can vote both D and R. (After all, Montana's governor is a Democrat.)

Couple all that with the fact that Quist is a more naturally charismatic candidate with stronger Montana bona fides and it kind of paints a slightly less flattering picture for the Dems' 2018.

ISIS CURES TROONS posted:

Speaking of which, the college professor in Berkeley who thought it'd be a good idea to cave in 3 Trump supporter's skulls with a bike lock is currently locked up on 200 grand bail. Preaching political violence may play well with the D&D crowd, but out in the real world, stable normal people don't particularly care for it.

SickZip posted:

Everyone likes a fighter in their politicians. People dont like violence personally generally, but a leadership willing to crack heads is generally not seen as all that bad. Franken got elected after he attacked a heckler

Kilroy posted:

I encourage the stereotype that all leftists know nothing about firearms. It makes it easier to take fuckers like you by surprise. Happy trails, dickface.

C. Everett Koop posted:

Obama is the greatest disaster in the history of the United States, far worse than the Civil War or WW2 or 9/11. Anyone who considered themselves a true leftist or liberal that doesn't spit on the ground when they say Obama's name is a fraud and a charlatan. We would have been better off with eight years of Sarah Palin than eight hours of Barack Obama.

WampaLord posted:

I'll stop going in there, it's just sad to see so many people acting like ostriches with the head in the sand.

I hope they have fun when the "do nothing different" strategy fails in 2018.

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

A bit of bad news about the 'stache.

https://twitter.com/IronStache/status/840242514942672896

This is not a dealbreaker for me. It shows that we have work to do on Randy. Bernie had to come around to BLM and get educated by his electorate, this is nothing new. I mean, it takes work to know that David Frum/Mensch/the rest of these people are actual scum. They get treated with respect by institutions.

Neon Belly posted:

The BLM protestors who interrupted Sanders in Seattle said that the campaign recast it as Sanders letting them speak, but that wasn't reality during the moment. The video clearly shows them being booed by the crowd and the protesters fighting to be able to say what they want, while the crowd tries to no-platform and throws water bottles at them. Marissa Johnson wrote about the experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV-ZSP0zAuI

ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:

I bet you if you asked black people those questions you'd actually get similar results.

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/Rendon63rd/status/879743321324740612

this is a higher priority for california dems than singlepayer

Kraftwerk posted:

I think BLM is too easy to ignore, kettle and co-opt by neoliberal hacks.

Blacks will never achieve anything for themselves until the Black Panther Party makes a comeback and they start organizing independently to protect against police brutality and properly volunteer to help their communities. The police will never stop executing innocent blacks until there's a credible vanguard of armed blacks to prevent it from happening.

Everything that went down in the 1960s continues today in pretty much the same shameless format. The BPP needs to be revived as a credible independent alternative to the BLM movement similar to how they independently added teeth to the civil rights movement.

Also the black community needs to get behind a left wing anti capitalist agenda because capitalism hurts them the most out of any ethnic group.

Avirosb posted:

You say that but that doesn't really say anything.
Latinos can be white and they can be black, they can even be Asian.

MooselanderII posted:

The beef with Pelosi in my book has nothing to do with her own personal stance on single payer (she acknowledged on Pod Save America that it is objectively the best and most obvious system) but with her resistance to making it the center of the"Retake the house in 2018" campaign.

Majorian posted:

He got perma-ed, home ex just hasn't been on today I think.

MooselanderII posted:

I don't give a gently caress what her personal opinion is, I care what she does for it as a politician, which is the distinction I and Majorian were making to B5.

WampaLord posted:

You are a regressive shitheel and a fake "ally" so I don't particularly care what you have to say, and you laughably trying to call out posters in this thread is loving sad. Go yuk it up with your buddies on r/the_donald.

Glazier posted:

I don't want Tulsi because shes a raging Islamophobe and racist who supports genocide, her leftist economic positions don't play into it.

WampaLord posted:

Your rap sheet speaks for itself.

MooselanderII posted:

Aren't you the moron who thought that my acknowledgment of Pelosi's personal views on single payer meant that I was defending her as a single payer champion, despite the fact that I said her personal opinion was meaningless if she wasn't going to act on it in her capacity as House minority leader?

Playstation 4 posted:

Toxx on it or shut up already.

WampaLord posted:

Glazier posted:

Or maybe, and hear me out, we could elect economic leftists who also support social equality for racial and religious minorities.