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Drakhoran posted:In unrelated news. Here is a picture of two Asrock X399 boards. Looks like the official name for the Threadripper socket will be TR4. AMD's parallel naming is getting pretty goofy, Intel has socket R4 on chipset X299 and AMD has socket TR4 on chipset X399.
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Fauxtool posted:jayz did make a video. Its not as good as full copper (obviously) but still puts up solid watercooling specs. The value is really high, but does anyone else make aluminum blocks if you wanted to expand the loop? Thermaltake basically exclusively makes aluminium WC parts. It pains me whenever I walk into my local computer store and they have EK loops with Thermaltake aluminium radtiaors that I just know are going to be completely destroyed by galvanic corrosion.
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Kazinsal posted:My dream is for them to get Zen on a process that does 4.5-4.8 GHz depending on lottery, and then do 8 core chips with 16 GB of HBM on die. Infinity Fabric at HBM grade speeds? Yes please. HBM is super high bus width super low clock, it's even further away from viable CPU use than GDDR which is another order of magnitude from DDR4.
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Maxwell Adams posted:Is there even a watercooling block on the market that could bolt onto that socket and actually cover the whole chip? Not currently on the market, but EK say they have a range ready to launch when TR does.
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Scarecow posted:Isnt the only thing holding ryzen back atm is the higher clock speed advantage intel has? So moving to a production that would match clocks with intel would force intel to price match? Memory compatibility >3000MT/s (not really relevant in the server/datacenter space), 6-7%~ IPC, and dreadful AVX performance off the top of my head. Of those I think AVX is probably the most important in the high margin markets alongside clock speed.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I still don't understand why they don't offer a 'overclocker's edition' that has the old school shim+bare die. I've found out recently that you can buy shims for modern Intel processors on Alibaba and I'm seriously resisting grabbing one and trying bare die for the novelty.
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eames posted:Be aware that you'll have to modify your cooler quite a bit if you want to run direct Die cooling with a shim. The part of the socket that houses the lever will be higher than the Die itself so the base plate of the cooler will interfere. The one I am looking at is a total replacement for the socket retention bracket.  It used to be a MSI thing but once they stopped including them the OEM continued selling them under their own banner (here). There are two different ones for 3-5 series and 6-8 series because of the substrate changes. I'm using a EK Supremacy waterblock so all I'd need is the replacement screws that go lower (Naked Ivy) and a local computer place has em for six bucks.
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SwissCM posted:Two of the four dies are shims, which I assume to be inoperable cores. Has anyone checked to see if that's actually the case? AMD said blank silicon, but I believe someone tore one apart and found them to be complete but non-operable Zeppelin dies.
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HamHawkes posted:Ehh that's a notebook. Do you think notebooks are an insignificant portion of the market?
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Do gigabyte make anything compelling enough that it's worth the effort? The Z370 Gaming 7 is fantastic, it regularly drops to under $200 and it's a great deal even at MSRP. It's probably the nicest Z370 overall.
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Is there any chance of getting X470 boards with thunderbolt support? It's basically the only thing stopping me from getting a 2700x, and I know X399 boards have thunderbolt so it's not impossible on the AMD side. The final comparison I'd love to see is the highest end, 8700K@5.2 with 4000MHz+ RAM vs 2700x@4.4GHz with 3600MHz+ (whatever the max that is 24/7 possible) in CPU bound scenarios like open world games and huge WoW instances.
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Silicone Lottery posted their numbers for the 8086K today. Almost 100% hit 5.1GHz all core, 60/40 shot for 5.2GHz, 15/85 for 5.3GHz. (iirc off the top of my head) It's a measurable difference, but YMMV on whether those extra couple hundred MHz are worth the extra hundred bucks.
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Am I an idiot if I plan on getting the 9900K preferably binned and run it at like 5.2 on a fuckoff expensive board with fuckoff expensive RAM. I've already got an overkill custom loop for cooling, and I just want the best gaming performance. It seems nothing else on the market will challenge that in the areas of single threaded esport games and also online CPU killers simultaneously. AMD is going to come a lot closer with performance ~gaming~ next year, are there signs that they will actually take the top end (5GHz+ CPU 4000+ men)? I do also do nerdy physics poo poo but we have a uni supercomputer for that, never on my personal computer. E: I also do not care for ethics in game processors BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 26, 2018 |
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:If you're gaming at 1080p and want to try and max out your 240hz monitor I can see that making some sense because then yes that sort of a set up might actually give you enough fps to really matter towards that goal. I'm currently only ever CPU bottlenecked (2600 non-k with 4x4GB 1600c8 memory) in absolutely everything. So the plan is get the best CPU upgrade currently possible and ride that out. GPU upgrade will come after, probably when the mid generation 1180ti or equivalent comes out. It seems like a short wait for the intel option, and my money is worth the year(?) it will take AMD to catch up.
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Broose posted:Thread count so high you could use it as a thrifty blanket. Threadripper natively is worse than mainstream Ryzen in games, they have a "games mode" that basically halves the processor to keep it to one die and not demolish gaming performance. If you want gaming performance and don't mind dealing with the devil, wait and get a i9-9900K.
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A12x25 is an unashamed Gentle Typhoon clone, so you can save ten bucks each and get GTs for near identical performance. Noctua themselves only quote a difference of .2-.3c noise matched, which is probably entirely the bearings.
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Steve said in a recent video that he spends almost 100% of his spare time mountain biking so I can't wait for him to tear that garbage apart in his review. On topic, I really goddamn want a 5950x to replace my 5.1 9900k but I know my resell value must be in the shitter now
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Multiple 1x slots are also more useful in a lot of cases than an extra 4x, especially on cheaper boards. My current board was extremely expensive and I don't need extra add in cards, but for the five years before that I had three separate 1x cards for extra networking and high speed USB
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From what I've seen, AMD wins heavily in some games like CSGO but they are slightly behind in the majority of games versus a 9900KS or 10900K enough that they're on par on average. TPU has the 9900KS/10900K at 1-3% above the 5950x at all resolutions. I was expecting more of an gaming slam dunk. I mean, Ryzen 5000 is still an absolute slam dunk but the gaming is still persplexing. I guess the inconsistency latency and ram speed is still relevant. I've been doing enough compiling/compression work lately that I'm actually maxing out my 9900K at 5.1, I'd loving love a 5950X but a platform change isn't viable for me.
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Kaddish posted:It’s a slam dunk for AMD no question in gaming and productivity. I guess I framed it poorly. I expected AMD to take the overall gaming crown, and they have in some games but on average they are still at or below current top Intel. I'm jealous of everything else but it wouldn't be a significant gaming upgrade like I expected with the jumps in other areas.
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SourKraut posted:What, you don't have a dedicated 50A/220V outlet that you hardwire your PC into? Amateur. I've got a 415v/32A three phase outlet in my basement as this house used to have an elevator and I'm imagining a three phase PSU to run a 7way setup
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:I don't want to derail thread, but could you tell us more about this? Like, how many stories is your house? What is in the space where the elevator used to be? Did you find this by accident? I don't know why, but I fuckin' LOVE stories of homeowners finding poo poo they didn't know their house had behind like, a layer of drywall. Only two storeys. The previous owner lived here for a few decades before he passed, we purchased it from his daughter. At some point it was removed when that part of the house was renovated. There is now an empty rectangle of space in the middle of the stairwell, the stairs go around the elevator column that no longer exists. I don't know why it was removed, could've been regulatory compliance for sale or due to maintenance costs The elevator allowed you to go through the garage which is level and get to the first floor. We had no idea before purchasing it and only noticed the power line under the house after a year or so. The previous owner had some large machine tools (now removed), so it was also run to a janky workshop area literally dug into the ground under half the house (it's on a slope) and we found it in there. I don't pay to have it connected to it's just a random novelty. I'd imagine it was expensive to install. BurritoJustice fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:Only 6 memory channels. The article suggests this would limited you to 75% of the expected bandwidth, but it's actually far lower since 6 DIMMs in an unbalanced configuration. Something to keep in mind if you had a memory intensive application planned. What does unbalanced mean in this context?
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Jim Keller is such an interesting figure to me. A relatively low profile engineer that just bounces around the best tech companies in the world on a whim, distributing groundbreaking architectures whever he goes. He should be more famous than his grifter hack of a brother in law. Is there a good write-up on his career anywhere? I'd love to see how influencial he really was in each position.
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LRADIKAL posted:OK, what's the best thermal paste? Thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme. At 14.2 W/mK it's over fifty percent more conductive than most other high performance pastes on the market (8-9 W/mK). You can actually see 2-6c improvements over other stuff. If you want to go crazy there is always liquid metal too, lol.
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NewFatMike posted:I've just discovered Moore's Law is Dead, are they a pretty good channel or batty like Adored? Oh hey, haven't heard about Adored in a while. Wonder what he's up to.    
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NewFatMike posted:That's extremely more whacko than I ever imagined Quoting your own pseudo intellectual euphoric nonsense is hilarious, especially when it's the first time you've even said it - burrito justice c2021
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mdxi posted:If you're looking for world famous non-stop-wrong Ryzen hypebeast Adored, then the channel you're looking for is "AdoredTV": https://www.youtube.com/user/adoredtv I know, he spun off "freethinkers" for six months or so and came back probably after people realised he's a weirdo when not contained to AMD sycophantism. The first photo I posted was his video announcing the change. Someone called Alex was doing videos in the meantime, apparently they bought the rights to the channel and website. Don't know why you'd want to be saddled by that though.
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The 4x 3.0 lanes are actually originally from the SSD slot on the XSX/PS5 (whichever it is), that they've had to repurpose for graphics as the iGPU is disabled. Weird board that could've been a bit of a budget winner with a few minor changes.
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AutismVaccine posted:More like GARBAGE ARMOR Or, it's a first generation PCIe 4.0 chipset with a 15w TDP that either requires active cooling or a larger passive heatsink (Aorus Xtreme). The X570s refresh is legit efficiency improvements to lower the cooling budget of the chipset. Just watercool it bro 
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Combat Pretzel posted:Well, the HEDT CPUs are coming, too. Let's see how expensive they'll be. Probably O_o levels. Too bad the rumored 16-core TR isn't a thing. They might make lower core count TR Pro CPUs. The buyers looking for small threadripper chips are likely in it for the memory bandwidth and PCIe so it makes more sense for the Pros. It's like the current TR Pro 12 core SKU
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CoolCab posted:oh, lol, that very same aforementioned guy who bought the wrong kind of SSD (and had to sell it at a loss because he lost his receipt) also an unrelated time walked into some retail place and bought high end 7200RPM drives for his NAS, then lost the receipt. maybe he was a special case. My friend who unironically bought an 11900K also bought two SATA QLC SSDs (Samsung QVO) to run in RAID0, with no m.2
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Both Ryzen bugs in Windows 11 are fixed as of yesterday, the L3 cache and preferred core. There was a window patch and a chipset driver update. W11 performs just as well as W10 for Ryzen now.
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Rinkles posted:Does this apply to memory as well? Using XMP profiles, not necessarily custom OCing. XMP is interesting because the overvoltage isn't where you might think. Most ram can actually take super high vDIMM, especially if it's the Bdie or DJR that has xmp profiles at 1.45-1.5v. Increasing your vDIMM isn't going to harm your CPU, as those high voltages aren't actually touching CPU silicon. The exception to this is past 1.65v vDIMM where the ratio of it that the CPU gets hits Intel spec, but you're very unlikely to be going that high on a daily overclock. The issue is with VCCSA/VCCIO voltages, which are needed to be increased to run higher ram speeds and tighter voltages. These are actually on the CPU and cause degradation at very high values. Because these are usually at "AUTO" in the BIOS and no-one checks after boot, motherboard makers will juice them like crazy when you turn on XMP to absolutely ensure its stable. For example, on my board, XMP 4000 sets both VCCSA/VCCIO to 1.36+ which is super high. So if you have a high end kit of memory and enable XMP you want to manually set those values to sensible amounts. I personally run 3900c14 with insanely tightened subtimings, which requires 1.52v vDIMM, 1.2v VCCIO, 1.3v VCCSA. Despite being way faster, this is a safer overrall voltage setup than the default XMP 4000c17 1.35v vDIMM 1.36v/1.40v VCCIO/VCCSA. Plus I'm looking at 34.5ns vs 52ns memory latency.
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mdxi posted:Confirmation from a Linux kernel patch that 12 CCD CPUs are on the way: Makes sense, should be 96 core Genoa
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Imagine going back to 2018 and saying AMD has the fastest gaming CPU but it sacrifices cores and application performance compared to similarly priced Intel options. Topsy turvy.
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If you have virtualisation enabled in your BIOS and do a clean install of W11, it's very likely you'll have VBS and HVCI enabled so make sure to disable them. Easiest is through group policy, should be under Admin Templates > System > Credential guard > Enable virtualisation based security. The performance loss on older CPUs can be pretty massive.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Zen 3 CPUs aren't worth overclocking, that's for sure. Their precision boost algorithm does the job for you, and PBO will also likely be a thing still (which is just PB but with power limits increased/removed). And that's assuming that this isn't a big misunderstanding somehow. Raichu, the same leaker, just responded that PBO and basically all other controls are also disabled for the 5800X3D.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:If the rumors are true, it feels like Broadwell all over again. I personally know two people that put off upgrading to 12th gen to say "I'm waiting to see Zen3D". It's a powerful thing to have "the best gaming CPU" looming on the horizon.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Does DRAM tuning get anything from a voltage bump on Ryzen CPUs, like it does for Intel chipsets for VCCSA and VCCIO? I guess this is kind of an overclocking thread question. I just want to know if locked CPU voltage affects anything about tuning DRAM since the upcoming Ryzen will be my first one Yeah, Ryzen needs higher IMC and agent voltages for higher ram clocks, especially if you're going for 1:1 with the Infinity fabric at 3800+. I'd be surprised if they lock out those voltages too, but yeah you'd have issues with going above 3200 if you're hard locked at stock for every voltage.
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