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Toxic Fart Syndrome
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Oh man that was really great. Loved all of the absurd, 300-style blood...I think Fuller misses making Hannibal! :unsmith:

Ian McShane was great! What a fun role for him. The effects were a little cheesy at times, but it's Starz so I'm willing to forgive. :shrug:

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Regarding Mr. Wednesday: as someone who read the book when it came out, I remembered.

My better half, who is generally much smarter than myself and has been primed for this idea with recent viewings of Vikings, Thor, a Norse play through of CK2, and recently saw an episode of Nova dedicated to Norse mythology and she obviously didn't pick this up. I remember it being a pretty big reveal in the book, so if you just expect people to know that off-hand (even with the prologue), you're being a dick.

If you expect goons to know that: you haven't read tviv...

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The musical cue when they inserted the key into the lock, with the corresponding blend of aural and visual, made me laugh out loud.
:tviv:

This show is so loving good!

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Nobody gonna talk about how she kicked that dude in the nuts and busted him in half?

:siren::nws::siren:




:trumppop:

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Man, the hosed up thing was telling her she had to annihilate herself by crawling back into her suicide attempt.... :psypop:

Also, Dane Cook was perfectly cast, he has not aged well, but the moment of realization of who the actor was and what his character did were simultaneous to me, so I was just smitten with the whole thing. :swoon:

Argue posted:

Wait, are we meant to take from that that "the circumstances of your death" literally refers to the blowjob; I thought Anubis was the one who approached her because she worked at the Luxor.

Watching again, they are really overt about showing the statue of Anubis while panning in on Laura in the first shot of the episode. I'm guessing the proximity to Anubis' idols (who literally watched over her life at work), combined with her militant atheism, allowed Anubis to claim her. I'm guessing Anubis still gets her resource belief-points, even though her soul goes to The Darkness.

Vintersorg posted:

Is this book series Memento?

No? :iiam:

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"My friend who closes the lid of her hot tub (which she denies using, btw) and fills it with bug spray is just a thrill-seeker, man...there's no way she's depressed or suicidal!"
:goonsay:

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

BTW that part confused me a bit. Does being a zombie whore give Laura super strength?

I'm assuming that since Shadow :airquote: gave :airquote: her Sweeny's lucky coin, she just rolls natural 20s and also got the Bloody Mess perk.

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Thread turns to poo poo every Wednesday because it's his day and he thrives on chaos... :eng101:

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It drops OnDemand/Online at midnight EST, but spoiler etiquette has decided it's tag-worthy prior to the Sunday air-time. :eng101:

That being said: "The last time I kicked a guy in the nuts..." :stonk::hf::golfclap:

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Snak posted:

That was such a combination of awesome and "wha... But... Anatomy? Other bones?"

It was pretty great.

Even better for being true! :unsmigghh:

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Entropic posted:

It saddens me that people think of him as Pornstache and not Nicky Sobotka.

:psyboom:

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Oh, my other favorite quote from the new episode:

"You're a loving rear end in a top hat, Dead Wife!"

So ready for a spinoff featuring just those two. Vegas roadtrip with Laura and Sweeney!

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Oasx posted:

Dead Wife continues to be a complete waste of time. Putting the main story on hold just to they can do 1½ episodes on her just seems like a bad idea this early on, hopefully she will go away for a while now.
What is Mr. World supposed to be the god of?

Genocyber posted:

Laura is awesome and continues to be the best thing in this show not named Mad Sweeney. Nevermind that focusing on her specifically is important for fully realizing how hosed their relationship actually was.

And globalism, probably.

precision posted:

Mr. World talks about Gods as all being united in the same industry (the salsa monologue) which would indicate that he's interested in bringing all the Gods to work together and harvest as much belief as possible. Whether he is a God himself or not didn't seem at all clear.

The episode is airing, so I'll go all-in on this: pretty sure he is the "god" of the NWO/globalism. Black helicopters, MiBs, and shadow governments, with an NSA-tinge to update it for the last decade.

Their pitch to Wednesday was cool, but I think they should have tried to hit him with documentaries instead of a new DPRK-missile named after him. Probably would have gone for people worshiping the "old" him.

Kithkar posted:

Okay, that Raven scene was the best.

Anybody check the credits? Was it Bran?

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Zaphod42 posted:

Episode has aired so we don't need spoiler bars now right?



You guys are entirely missing the point. Which, it was supposed to distract you at first, but notice later on Wednesday says "Merger? Sounds more like Exile to me"

Get it?

They're acting like they're being nice, giving Wednesday platitudes, but really they're trying to give him the boot. Make him an ex-American god in exchange for giving him a nice bootstrap somewhere else. It means they win, they control America and all its worship. He's not about to give that up, so it was never a serious offer of "merger".

They can't offer him documentaries because they do NOT want him getting more strength in America. They want him gone. The missile was basically like putting him on a boat to another country.

That's why I think the pitch may have worked if they brought him in as a partner, rather than trying to exile him. Mr. World could have easily pointed out that more people live in California than were on the whole earth when Wednesday first came about...more than enough to go around. :shrug:

except the Gods don't want to share

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KilGrey posted:

I think she implied she got high off of that. A ton of people tuned into that radio broadcast and collectively poo poo themselves giving her a big bump.


precision posted:

Yeah but she also did say "now there are aliens out there because people believed there were"

Yeah, it's both. She was young and new when WotW happened, but it was her first big hit of belief. Similarly, she commented that now that people believe aliens are out there: they are!

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Gum posted:

So the spider that freed Wednesday was totally Anansi, right?

Also re: the starman bit (actual spoiler)

On twitter Fuller confirmed they're not only real, they're coming

:dance:

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Jerusalem posted:

I somehow completely forgot that Crispin Glover's name is in the opening credits and I was utterly thrilled to see him.

But I've come to the rather obvious conclusion that I'd watch an hour a week of "Bryan Fuller Presents Gillian Anderson Doing Stuff", she's so great in this and she was fantastic in Hannibal too (those Europe episodes :swoon:)

Counting down to her guest spot on the new Star Trek... :neckbeard:

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Like every 13 year old on XboxLive, TechBoy is perfectly happy to shout the n-word through his headset, but balks when faced with an actual black man.

Fried Watermelon posted:

Their outrage just feeds the new god of social injustice

Guest spot for Lena Dunham? I'm betting this will be a real character at some point...

Edit: fuckshit! Only three more? So brutal.

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COOL CORN posted:

Sure, I get the purpose of the storytelling, I just wasn't sure why they used cartoony CGI instead of actual actors. We're still talking about homo sapiens here, even though it's 15,000 years ago. Even the Skhul/Qafzeh fossils found from 80,000 years ago show bone structure relatively the same as ours. I'm not sure why the animation used weird elf-looking people.

But anyway, this is a stupid nitpick, and it was a really well done scene. Just thought maybe I was missing something :)

It was a stylistic choice. Really surprised that anyone is put off by this given the visual style of the show...seems like an odd nitpick.

And if people are this upset over it being all CGI, what kind of fit would they have pitched if it had been bad cgi (not HBO/GoT sfx budget here) mixed with live action?

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Dudikoff posted:

That was such a fun episode. Ian McShane is looking pretty feeble these days, so that huge, heavy sword looked really awkward in his hands.

I'm hoping that's intentional because his character is supposed to be diminished.

cool kids inc. posted:

The Muslim, the Leprechaun, and The Dead Wife Road Trip is probably some of my favorite TV at the moment. Mad Sweeney's just such a dick to everyone, it's super entertaining to watch.

If they just go a little further west we can get the Vegas Road Trip we all want! I mean, she is revisiting her old haunts... :homebrew:

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Sickening posted:

Who is odin? This more book poo poo?

Spoiler alert: they have overtly named this character in every episode since #2...

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Cojawfee posted:

I just noticed that the sword Vulcan made for Wednesday has Yggdrasil on the blade near the hilt. A quick look around wikipedia showed that "yggdrasil" can mean "Odin's Gallows" which makes all the noose references make more sense. Also that Wednesday used the sword to slice Vulcan's neck.

A quick wiki search of Norse mythology will explain this. That or play CK2 with an Old Gods start! :pcgaming:

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Great episode, the present day stuff almost felt out of place against the Coming to America sequence. Loved the costuming, the series really shines when it is doing practical effects!

I've decided the best Mad Sweeney line of all is from episode 5: "I swear by the years I spent in the loving trees..."


So perfect...

Also, what was that scene in the new episode when Sweeney flashbacked while looking at Laura and the ice cream truck? Was that supposed to be the first wreck? Did Sweeney/Wednesday set Shadow up by killing Laura and Dane Cook? :psyboom:

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Oasx posted:

Given that the season finale is next week, I am a little worried. 8 episodes should mean a focused show, not one where the episodes just consist of more and more filler.
I like the episode and if we had 20+ episodes to look forward to then there wouldn't be an issue, but it just wasn't necessary for the story in any way.

I think this episode may have worked better last week, giving more of a push to the finale, but I enjoyed the vingette and actors so much I forgave it.

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spudsbuckley posted:

As an Irish guy, the accents bugged the gently caress out of me in this one.

The older woman had a sort of west of Ireland accent and the young one had a sort of Dublin accent. They were both supposedly from Bantry in Cork which sounds nothing like either of the accents they were doing.

:laffo:
The producers specifically said she was "really good" with accents, which confirms the whole "you all sound the same to Americans" cliche. OTOH your country is barely a tenth the size of Texas so you'll have to forgive us for missing some dialectic nuance... :haw:

try the new taco place posted:

Thanks for agreeing with me but I would really rather not know who is in the book or what they do or do not do in said book. There is another thread explicitly for comparing this tv show to the book.

I'm sure he didn't mean to ruin your safe space with the knowledge that the book exists. :gb2gbs:


TV dog Wishbone of PBS posted:

aw yiss opening with some dead man dick
Hey man, spoiler that poo poo before the episode airs! :downsrim:

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Now you're all fighting for the sheer, loving thrill of it!! Do you feel the blood coursing in your veins??

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To bring this back around: I love that Fuller brought his composer with him. The "Hannibal-drums" and trumpet noises are much appreciated in AG and perfectly fit the aesthetic!

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nessin posted:

I thought the latest episode was fine until the end. We're supposed to just buy off that a "god" that has lived for at least a couple hundred years with a memory (history?) stretching back far further and with a mythos of screwing over people (up to and including killing them) is going to be guilt tripped into giving up the item that he has to get back at all costs after it was just handed to him on a silver platter? I get the symbolism but that whole scene was just stupid and contradictory to the entire theme of the show.

That's exactly the point, though! While he did many bad things to Essie, as she said at the end "You did me many a good turn," to which he admits "more than a few bad, as well."

The guilt-trip is that he has been nothing but bad luck to Laura. He has taken and taken from her and given nothing back. It's that memory of Essie that reminds him that he isn't evil, just fickle. He gives her back the coin because he realizes that he needs to bring Laura some good luck to balance out the bad for him to "earn" his coin back.
:spergin:

edit: it's also a juxtaposition between the Old Gods and the New Gods...the Old Gods feel that they have to give something back to the people while the New Gods view them simply as a mana source.

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biracial bear for uncut posted:

Also wasn't the whole point of that coin that it had to be given of the current owner's free will? Laura hadn't willingly given the coin up, so it would have just found it's way back to her anyway.

:shrug:

Dead people can't own things, so it's a little ambiguous? I viewed the scene as Sweeney willingly gave it back to her until he felt like he deserved it back (cued by her willingly giving it up). Getting it back via another misfortune directed at Laura was wrong to him.

I couldn't tell, but was his Lucky Coin the one Essie gave him in the field?

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Steve Yun posted:

How are you supposed to have enough bad luck to give away your lucky coin if you're lucky coin is supposed to give you good luck? Check mate, Gaiman

I'd have to rewatch, but I bet Wednesday hosed him somehow during his fight with Shadow in ep1.

:rolleye: Classic Rando Wednesday...

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Really hoping to see Gillian Anderson as Keanu Reeves in S2. :dance:

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Soothing Vapors posted:

I hear good things about John Wick, but I'm boycotting it because I won't support a scientologist

:golfclap:

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Anyone who enjoys AG that hasn't watched Hannibal is a crazy person.

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Finale hit me like:

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Just in case anyone missed it last month: season 2 is a go!
http://deadline.com/2017/05/american-gods-renewal-season-2-starz-neil-gaiman-bryan-fuller-1202089641/

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Plucky Brit posted:

Mr World's statements in that episode were odd.

He's basically saying that the old gods will die out either through battle or through gradual neglect, and he doesn't care about them. I couldn't think of anything more likely to incite the old gods to war, particularly Ostara.

My take on that is that the Old Gods believe in the reciprocal relationship: prayers = favors/attention. The New Gods, on the other hand, have abandoned the quid quo pro direct-arrangement for diffused belief from large masses. When population densities were much lower, gods needed direct worship to become powerful enough regionally to manipulate the world. Now that everyone on the planet, to some extent, believes in the New Gods of Technology, Media, and Information they don't need direct prayers: 7 billion people have some form of belief in them. We can see this a little bit at the end with Easter, who even though she has no "direct followers," still has the power to blight every crop: diffuse belief is powerful.

Wednesday in the finale is basically throwing down and saying "one fervent believer is worth more than all the chattel masses."

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Mameluke posted:

I wonder if Easter blighting all the crops will serve as an excuse for Bryan Fuller to film season 2 of American Gods in the winter, like each season of Hannibal was.

I'm cool with this if it means new eps next spring.

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And Faraday on :lost:!

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Crow Jane posted:

My boyfriend, who has seen Saving Private Ryan way more times than one person should, pointed out that he was also in Saving Private Ryan.

Oh drat! I always forget that! And he's the loving main character!

But, literally everyone who spoke in the movie went on to have a career. Nathan Fillion is the guy they think is Ryan with the brothers in grade school. :psypop:

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Chernabog posted:

If God himself shows up it would be hilarious if he was played by Morgan Freeman.

Well that'd be Media's version of him... :haw:

Jesus' dad is probably reformed Zeus given what we know of Easter?

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