Pissflaps posted:Considering the possibility of a different labour leader on events right now is hardly alternate loving history get a grip. You playing make believe that a moderate Labour leader would certainly be doing far better than Corbyn despite all recent elections showing that's not the case is pretty much alternative history fanfiction.
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Pissflaps posted:I actually said 'half way decent' but if you want to conflate that with 'moderate' that's your prerogative. Tedious pedantry aside; being a moderate is pretty obviously the main requisite for you to consider them "half way decent", why else would you rather Cooper, Kendall or Smith?
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May 1, 2017 23:45
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Pissflaps posted:Yes yes of course I'm being a 'pedant' because I'm expecting you to at least reply to things that were said rather than something you imagined. You're being a pedant now continuing on this tangent rather than addressing the actual question. But yeah it really took a giant leap of imagination to think the guy who endlessly poo poo posts about how woeful Corbyn is but still holds a centrist war criminal in high regard, might really mean moderate when he says "half way decent".
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May 1, 2017 23:52
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Tesseraction posted:Pissflaps is actually a very serious political player, that's why he argues all day and late into the night on an internet forum instead of doing anything constructive about the politics he cares about enough to spend all day and late into the night whining about. No you see, nothing hurts the Tories like a lethargic internet troll complaining endlessly about how inept the Labour leader is. Labour supporters who campaign enthusiastically for Corbyn however are actually just playing into the Tories hands.
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May 1, 2017 23:52
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Pissflaps posted:I engage with it exactly as much as I want to. Because you don't actually care at all beyond being smug in this thread on a daily basis. We all know this.
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May 1, 2017 23:59
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Pissflaps posted:Being right about how Corbyn has turned out brings me little pleasure. Reading your endless shitposting of you patting yourself on the back because you assume your'e correct, on a daily basis, brings everyone else even less pleasure.
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May 2, 2017 00:04
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Tesseraction posted:You also answer the question you want to, instead of the question asked. I'm still waiting to hear by what measure Owen Smith or Liz Kendall could be considered "half way decent".
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May 2, 2017 00:05
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Pissflaps posted:People who support Corbyn are causing people to die because they're taking away the centre left alternative to the Tory party. Go feed somewhere else Tory dickhead.
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May 5, 2017 11:56
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Darth Walrus posted:The alternative was both parties agreeing that they need to die, but Labour looking mildly upset about it. I'm not clear on how that's an improvement. The only way we can actually help anyone is to just repackage austerity and neoliberalism as "progressive" and then congratulate ourselves when the public chooses Labour to carry on the status quo rather than the Tories.
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May 5, 2017 12:42
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Pissflaps posted:Corbyn needs to be humiliated again in June for there to be any chance he'll stand down. Even then I don't think he will. "Don't know" still looking strong after the local election results
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May 5, 2017 12:44
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Pissflaps posted:When you demand labour is lead by somebody with a chance in hell of becoming prime minister I might believe you give a gently caress about people dying because of Tory governments.
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May 5, 2017 14:03
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Pissflaps posted:Every single one of your posts in this thread are about or to me. You're a narcissist who posts in this thread a hundred times a day to feed. You should be thanking me.
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May 5, 2017 14:05
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Pissflaps posted:Thank you for registering an account just to talk about me. You're very welcome. I could happy feed your narcissistic personality disorder in exchange for you no longer trolling people who are worried about suicidal/disabled friends or family dying by repeatedly insisting that its their fault. e- as someone whos been in that boat before, your insistence to keep trolling on that point really demonstrates what a vile little poo poo of a man you are.
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May 5, 2017 14:14
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nopantsjack posted:Could you not quote him though so the clever people who have him on ignore don't have to see his boring nonsense? Fair enough.
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May 5, 2017 14:17
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learnincurve posted:Oh but trust me, they are far worse. They are far more easily led and much more likely to actually go out and vote than UKIP supporters. Your entire argument is just generalities tarring all 16-17 year olds with the same brush, while ignoring that most of your criticisms apply to other age groups anyway.
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May 11, 2017 17:53
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No I'm just not too fond of paternalistic liberals.
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May 11, 2017 17:57
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learnincurve posted:I do believe we found the 17 year old. Do you have any arguments that arent based on personal anecdotes?
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May 11, 2017 18:02
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learnincurve posted:Yes my lamb, I am or was before I quit the NHS in a huff, a psychologist. I suppose it follows that people with mental illnesses also shouldn't be allowed to vote then.
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May 11, 2017 18:29
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learnincurve posted:Lol are people really that liberal in this thread that they want literal school children to vote? You literally have zero argument besides trying to infantise 16-17 year olds as much as possible, so much so you're now pulling out a horseshit slippery slope argument. Benjamin Arthur fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 18:33
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learnincurve posted:I'm not liberal, Tory or Labour. I don't like the way the whole political system is geared towards voting for a party, and not individual candidates, so I vote for whoever the not racist independent candidate is because no one ever mentions the statistics in spoiled ballots. Most 16-17 year olds wouldnt waste their vote as much as you do.
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May 11, 2017 18:41
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learnincurve posted:Only if they vote for the party you want them to vote for kiddo, the Tory party will be wanting them to vote for them and they run the department of education... Stop with the patronising tone, you've already outed yourself as a moron.
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May 11, 2017 18:47
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learnincurve posted:
I think the more pressing issue compared to sex is that 17 year olds are eligible to pay tax and join the armed forces, and hence deserve representation.
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May 11, 2017 19:44
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I have qualifications and 15 years of experience in this field. I know there is a huge difference mentally between 18 year olds and 16 year olds, should 16 year olds be allowed to have children? not really. But can you stop them having sex? No. But as the risk of life or health threatening injury owing to pregnancy or abortion is relatively low at 16, all making it illegal would do is land a load of teenagers in prison or put them on lists.
baka kaba posted:What's being argued is that Labour was poo poo for basically going 'uhhh, uhhh, yeah loving Thornberry, we'll get rid of her!' and admitting to the lazy accusations. All that did was feed the narrative that Labour was elitist and out of touch and just pandering to the working class to get votes To be fair that narrative did describe New Labour pretty well.
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May 14, 2017 16:35
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Evil_Urna posted:Where did I say that? And what does a mid 20th century German dictator have anything to do with 2017 British politics? I dont think this thread needs any more derails. Having a functioning welfare state and NHS by taxing high earners at 50% is not "vindictive" you right-wing bellend.
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May 15, 2017 18:25
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Evil_Urna posted:Oh for sure, but I dont see how Hitler has anything to do directly with Corbyn's manifesto, or his hiring of a Stalinist (sorry a guy that was a Stalinist till December but is not totes a mainstream labour member) to run his campaign. Or how Labour expects to pay for all of the new entitlements they want without vindictive taxation. "My affection for Hitler has nothing to do with this, now let me get back to discrediting the ideology Hitler hated most by smearing people by political association with the man who defeated him."
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May 15, 2017 18:48
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Pissflaps posted:I thought the idea was that labour wouldn't ask anyone but the very highest earners to pay more tax? Unfortunately funding essential elements of society by taxing the people who most benefit from societies existence is vindictive.
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May 15, 2017 18:50
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Evil_Urna posted:
Everyone remember; he's not right-wing hes a centrist.
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May 15, 2017 18:51
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Namtab posted:What about instead of trickle down we have a loving waterfall through progressive tax rates and an inland revenue with actual teeth Too vindictive. What if we have a brutal police state or perhaps a prison industrial complex that systematically targets racial minorities.
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May 15, 2017 18:55
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Evil_Urna posted:Honestly, the only way Labour's going to redeem themselves in the eyes of the British electorate after they get thrashed in June is to purge the extremists, head back to the center, and build a working collation government with the ruling Tory party. Yes because a coalition with the Tories did wonders for Lib Dem popularity, you fuckwit nazi.
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May 16, 2017 10:36
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Stalin did nothing wrong (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 16, 2017 21:55
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Ludicro posted:I'm probably giving them too much credit here, but I can't help but wonder if having May's name slapped over everything in their campaign as opposed to the Conservative Party is a deliberate strategy. When Brexit inevitably goes to poo poo, everyone remembers "Theresa May" as opposed to "Conservatives", so the Tories can throw her and her cabinet under a bus and keep the party unblemished for what comes after. I think May and the Tories just have a more basic strategy of making the election "May v Corbyn" as opposed to Conservative Party v Labour.
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May 17, 2017 17:23
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Rakosi posted:Are you going to keep posting to tell me what I really think when I make a pretty clear comment, oval office? Your non-contributions and how they go ignored are the miracle of UKMT. It's pretty clear that you're a fascist dickhead and should gently caress off.
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May 25, 2017 17:36
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Rakosi posted:You gents can just stick me on your ignore lists and you won't have to post this every time I post in the thread. Or you could stop posting in the thread where everyone thinks you're a dickhead? You only show up when a terror attack provides you with an opportunity to act smug about being a racist sack of poo poo.
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May 25, 2017 17:43
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Rakosi posted:Nope. lol you think the tabloids should get a pat on the back for using dogwhistle racism rather than overt "Browns killing us again!". Just gently caress off already
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May 25, 2017 17:54
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Do it ironically posted:I'm sorry I have a different opinion than you and that it makes you angry and upset maybe you could check out a local psychologist to help you with your issues so we can discuss like adults loving hell is trolling getting lazy nowadays.
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May 25, 2017 17:56
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Pissflaps posted:Political ones on this forum? Trump and Scottish independence.
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May 27, 2017 18:37
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Pissflaps posted:I'm stunned that I can't remember what your thoughts on the subject were. EU bad thing
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May 27, 2017 18:51
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The IRAs greatest crime was failing to get Thatcher
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May 27, 2017 23:28
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Pissflaps posted:Bothering to check your angry little missives is not one of my priorities. God forbid you'd properly read the posts responding to the pedantic derails that you start, here in the thread where you spend your life
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Pissflaps posted:The information isn't in any of the posts I've replied to or read. I don't think it actually exists, but don't let that get in the way of a tantrum. Sorry, I assumed someone sad enough to post as much as you would at least know how to read. My mistake.
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