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Bispings pretty old too to be fair.. hes only a few years younger than Silva and a bunch older than Rockhold. Hes been fighting for a long time
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May 3, 2017 01:04
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Well Bisping took the fight on short notice and it was Rockholds to lose and he lost. Cant be at your best every night, theres a reason why really long win streaks are impressive even if you arent fighting the best of the best, especially when youre the champ and everyones gunning for you. The fight definitely "counts" As far as ducking Jacare goes. Jacare fought someone good for the first time in the post USADA era and looked like poo poo and got hosed up. If hes ducking anyone now its Romero (also a steroid cheater) or Whittaker (basically bisping but better at everything)
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May 3, 2017 03:35
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handsome only face posted:everyone at middleweight is 40 years old or more and sucks just like heavyweight. that's why Bisping & Miocic look the same in the pics Yeah the situation outside of like the top 5 is really insanely lovely right now for every division MW and above Johny Hendricks has one fight at MW following 3 straight losses at WW -- he took Lombard to decision. Lombard is 0-4 in the past 3 years with two brutal KO losses and a pop for steroids. Hendricks is the 12th rated MW
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May 3, 2017 03:46
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Snowman_McK posted:The two have nothing in common stylistically. Definitely not enough to conclude that they are the same fighter. If you say so dude
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May 3, 2017 03:53
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1st AD posted:
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May 3, 2017 04:02
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Rigel posted:Nate Diaz has a bench press in his living room. lol
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May 3, 2017 21:50
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Nate is cool i hope hes made enough money that he doesnt have to fight anymore if he doesnt want to
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May 3, 2017 22:03
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125 division will be alright as long as they dont push too many crappy fights between girls who are 1-4 in their last 5 onto the main card of PPVs because they feel like they have to build up the division
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May 4, 2017 01:19
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If anything Ronda would be good at 125 and having her at a new weight class would be one of the more credible excuses to bring her back out of the woods and give her an instant title shot
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May 4, 2017 01:42
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I always laugh when friends who are about a chubby 170 lbs are like "lol 135 pounds??" when if they lost their gut and got in shape theyd be 150 and could cut to 135 115 is pushing it though
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May 4, 2017 02:45
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Work Friend Keven posted:Yeah for sure, those guys microwave their wine.
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May 5, 2017 17:43
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Dana is right that Nate vs Eddie Alvarez or whatever would do lovely numbers headlining a PPV, just because he was a good foil for Conor doesnt mean hes a giant draw, i dont know why people get so worked up about that. He already said he just wants to ride bike anyway
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May 5, 2017 18:43
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Work Friend Keven posted:They're extremely popular and would be huge money draws if they A were slightly better and could fight for belts without losing to random dudes and B would actually promote in the wider media. Also it doesn't help that they don't seem to want to fight very much at this point. If you wanted you could probably get the belt onto nick and reproduce his Strikeforce run and make a lot of money but realistically I don't think he wants it enough at this point. Yah
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May 5, 2017 20:42
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Thats my wife
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May 6, 2017 19:18
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Theyre doing that except instead of huge dudes its small dudes and theyre hitting at like 30% power
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May 6, 2017 22:27
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Well i mean there is some truth to that idea that with smaller gloves and all the options you have in MMA its not as appealing to just flick out a boxing style jab to feel the guy out. Back in the Vitor/Wanderlei/etc days when lots of the best strikers were guys who would just blitz you with power shots. Lots of guys got punished for lovely jabs. But of course the solution isnt to never throw a straight punch with your lead hand its to adapt it to MMA and get good at it like GSP
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May 8, 2017 21:50
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Bundt Cake posted:Every fighter you train with is dumber than tim sylvia who defended a ufc title with jabs lol but to be fair remember when he threw a lazy jab against Ray Mercer and got knocked out by an overhand
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May 8, 2017 21:51
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Neurosis posted:I think Jeremy Horn is cool He is
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May 10, 2017 14:53
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Skip My Posts posted:whats a biological passport? Basically they have a record of a bunch of biological variables and they track changes over time for anything suspicious that would indicate PED use. Especially PEDs that are hard to test for through normal methods
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May 11, 2017 03:15
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Its cool in some ways and not cool in other ways.. sorry but thats how I feel
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May 11, 2017 04:05
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Soon they can announce that Mc gregor vs Mayweather isnt happening either and then everything will be back to the sensible normal status quo (Romero beats Bisping then pops for steroids and retires and Bisping also retires and they do Derek brunson vs Vitor for the interim belt)
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May 11, 2017 05:30
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tesilential posted:The genetic passport is lovely because a fighter can fail retroactively and be punished because certain "levels" have "changed." IMO it's unethical to find guilt when they haven't even identified that a banned substance was taken to begin with. Thats not what happens, they keep your old samples and if levels change suspiciously they can re-test the old samples with a better idea of what theyre looking for. Penne got flagged because of unusual variation in the passport and they went back and tested an old sample and found a banned substance A better analogy is that they look at your bank statement and you have too much money running through your account so they look into it and find out you committed armed robbery, therefore you are guilty of armed robbery
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May 12, 2017 15:31
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Bad analogy incoming
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lol, beaten
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May 12, 2017 15:31
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Medical surveillance is bad but were talking about people beating each other up for entertainment, its probably less concerning that some sanctioning body has your hematocrit levels on record than if they half-assed the drug testing like in other sports and the guy making 11/11 gets his head caved in by a guy who can afford to abuse designer PEDs
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May 12, 2017 15:38
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tesilential posted:I'm not talking about Penne. They can in theory but they dont really. It wouldnt hold up when the athlete appeals unless there was a ton of evidence . Its happened a few times when someones hormone levels go up 10x overnight or something that cant be explained physiologically by any other means, and at that point its not really any different than conventional drug testing that looks for biological markers of drug use 99% of the cases they see some suspicious levels and they retest the sample and find something
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May 12, 2017 15:48
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:There is no argument against "PED"s that makes any sense. If you're an athlete, ideally, everything that you put into your body is a PED, and to differentiate between a banana and a steroid is retarded. Yes, even if your job is to concuss your opponent Thats cool that you think so, in the real world though steroids are illegal
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May 12, 2017 18:44
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So everyone whose opinion matters thinks steroids should be illegal in MMA and the "whats the difference between steroids and a banana really" argument is lame
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May 12, 2017 18:48
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Two wrongs dont make a right and its easier to police whether guys inject themselves with horse steroids than whether they ate a healthy breakfast. Theres your answer for why PEDs are illegal even though fighting is already bad for you
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May 12, 2017 19:09
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Well now we dont get to hear the rest of the libertarian personal responsiblity argument for 6 hours
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May 12, 2017 19:30
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david carmichael posted:Many PEDs aren't illegal Oh yeah i meant illegal to use in MMA. You can do whatever you want otherwise imo
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May 12, 2017 20:34
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tesilential posted:I'd rather fighters not do steroids and not cut weight. Both would be immensely beneficial for their health. Ultimately I just want to watch good fights, and cancelling fights is worse for the sport [fans] than roids or weight cuts or whatever. Cancelling fights of guys that are cheating is good for the sport
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May 12, 2017 21:46
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tesilential posted:Obviously you've never attended an event or purchased a PPV. DUhhhhh buhhhh
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May 13, 2017 02:27
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Bisping gets dropped a lot but hes tough and recovers well.. Romero should probably beat him but instead he will drop him in the first then get tired and lose 4 rounds and everyone will wonder why he Forgot to Wrestle (tm)
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May 13, 2017 20:54
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big money big clit posted:I know it's heavyweight and all, but drat, first round KOs of Werdum, Overeem, and JDS all in a row is impressive as hell. Yah its an extremely impressive run
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May 14, 2017 18:37
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Has MM said anything about being willing to do something like that? He doesnt seem like hed be into it
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May 18, 2017 01:13
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Skip My Posts posted:mm said he would rather fight a guy from his division who "earned it" or something. since tj doesnt have the belt he isnt that interested. bullshit mang Yeah that sounds more like him
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May 18, 2017 01:18
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I choose to believe that stupid fight still isnt gonna happen. Theyll find some reason for it not to, theyve done a really good job of keeping it in the news though
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May 18, 2017 22:22
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Brown Paper Bag posted:Helwani saying on Twitter that Romero v Whittaker for the interim Middleweight title is in the works. Thats probably the best MW title fight available right now imo
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May 19, 2017 17:04
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You can see in the old no rules/vale tudo fights that downward elbows dont do much against a guy taking you down, theyre really nasty when you are in mount or back control though. So just like knees to the head of a downed opponent it turns out to be more of a help to grapplers than an anti-grappler weapon like people want it to be
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May 20, 2017 18:24
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Lol
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May 22, 2017 20:02
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