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Spiritus Nox posted:There's literally people ITT saying "yeah it's better if Gianforte wins so we can hang it around the GOP's neck" as though Americans aren't just taking it as a signal that beating the poo poo out of uppity reporters is okay now. I said it was a silver lining, not better.
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May 26, 2017 04:50
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RuanGacho posted:So what are we going to do about it? Well, short term, phonebank for Ossoff. Long term won't be a concern after Trump burns the sky
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May 26, 2017 04:55
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D-Pad posted:You know if you watch this clip and then the shoving one it starts to look like they may be the same symptom. I think maybe Trump forgot where he was for a moment or who he was with and shoved to the front of the crowd. He saw the reporters and instinctively tried to look serious. Good. One of the best possible outcomes on our current timeline is a 25th amendment removal after Trump just starts disrobing in public.
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May 26, 2017 14:05
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Majumbo posted:Only if the House of Representatives votes to expel him. They won't To be fair this is almost never done and a fair number of congressfolk from both sides of the aisle have served in Congress while under pending charges.
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May 26, 2017 14:05
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FizFashizzle posted:He's a long way from end stage dementia. Yeah, that's actually something I've been wondering -- exactly how long do we / does he have before the disease can no longer be hidden? I don't know the details of how the disease progresses but it should be possible to game out a timeline.
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May 26, 2017 14:07
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Lightning Lord posted:How soon until we're getting dragged out of our houses and shot for being on Democratic donator lists or something Oh we have plenty of ti
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May 26, 2017 14:09
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Shooting Blanks posted:Hiding it with the amount of publicity the President gets, at his age, and with him already aware of just how much he's in over his head will be a challenge at best. We've got a few more years at the very least. It'll be interesting to see just how much Trump family/Pence/Cabinet/GOP try to shield him from the spotlight if he declines, vs. just throwing him under the bus. If I were writing this out on a storyboard, the most "likely" scenario would seem to be the pressure of the investigation building and the dementia getting officially revealed as a defense -- "he didn't know how corrupt everything was, his brain has been shot for years."
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May 26, 2017 14:22
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FizFashizzle posted:
One of my relatives, who had been a female executive in the forties and fifties and was a hard shell of a woman for decades, turned I to the nicest, happiest person I'd ever known while she had Alzheimer's. She just sort of drifted away on a cloud. I think she'd repressed her basic nice personality for business reasons and under the disease she turned back into the kind happy person she'd always wanted to be. I hope if I get the disease I'm that lucky.
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May 26, 2017 15:00
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Hollismason posted:Didn't they do that in FLorida and find that it was incredibly cost prohibitive? It's a giant waste and just serves to fill the pockets of testing companies. Poor people can't afford.drugs. the false positive rate alone is gonna get.people killed due to lack of necessary medical care.
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May 26, 2017 16:44
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It's not illegal to have a monopoly, just to abuse monopoly power. Hence all the netscape / Microsoft lawsuits.
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May 26, 2017 17:28
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Alter Ego posted:Trump either doesn't care or doesn't understand how optics in politics work at all. I need an emote that means "not mutually exclusive"
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May 26, 2017 17:47
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May 26, 2017 20:51
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maskenfreiheit posted:Question: is it true that part of the nato treaty states states should spend 2% of GDP on their military? They have till like 2027 or something to meet that percentage.
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May 26, 2017 21:48
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maskenfreiheit posted:ok but making it clear this is an actual expectation, not a bullshit one like the economic rules for being in the eurozone they let greece ignore is probably a good idea right? In theory a competent non Trumpian speaker could have made an argument like that but in practice Trump is just yelling.
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May 26, 2017 21:56
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empty whippet box posted:Make sure to hate every other feasible dem candidate for vague, stupid reasons too, otherwise people might think you're not cool. The specific issue with Zucky is he has no credibility or track record, so there's no particular reason to think he'll actually govern from the left and implement the policies he's claiming. I'd support him if he were running for governor or Congress. The presidency is too important to gamble on a candidate with no experience or track record. Dude basically got megalucky and runs a company that employs like two thousand people. I don't care what he promises, he has no track record in politics.
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May 26, 2017 22:08
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Zikan posted:trump presidency to get even worse Won't. Trump is an attention addict. Not unless the lawyers follow him into the bathroom every morning.
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May 26, 2017 22:15
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Comstar posted:So is this all a movie and the big climax is when thje good guys find out WHY they are hiding all the info about the orders from Moscow? What's so important that they had to talk to the Kremlin about? Is the actual thing their hiding just the fact they got money from Putin?!? Were they communicating the Death Star plans via FSB astromech? Based on what we know so far, the presumption is that Trump's income and assets are Russian based.
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May 27, 2017 02:43
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Looks like an "or" after war to me there But I haven't read the precedents
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May 27, 2017 04:46
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Ice Phisherman posted:
Sure, but his first crisis might be something like the debt ceiling where the risk is a global economic crash. He might fall so hard he takes the rest of us out with him.
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May 27, 2017 05:33
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maskenfreiheit posted:would that be so terrible? wipe out the bank accounts of the elite, while the majority of americans who have little to know savings can start fresh and debt free In this context the "elite" includes "Everyone living in a a developed world economy". It wouldn't just wipe out savings. It'd be worse than the Great Depression, people would starve.
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May 27, 2017 05:37
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maskenfreiheit posted:if you can't grow your own food or possess a skill you can use to get someone to give you food that's pretty poor planning tbh If you have enough land to do that newsflash: not poor
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May 27, 2017 05:54
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glowing-fish posted:One thing about Jared Kushner is that there almost certainly has to be something in his past that is illegal, in regards to Russia. Maybe something that would be relatively minor in normal times, if he wasn't the Son-In-Law of the President, something that might end up with him going on a six month trip to a minimum security federal prison. Some type of financial irregularity or tax avoidance or etcetera. There's no legitimate reason to be trying to set up a back channel to communicate with Putin while evading US surveillance. I mean . . . I literally can't think of a single one. My suspicion is that the underlying misdeed is just that Russian banks finance the whole Trump business empire.
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May 27, 2017 06:17
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glowing-fish posted:The President can talk to foreign leaders however he wants, though, right? Like a president can send a special envoy/goodwill ambassador/etc to a foreign country, and they often do this in an unofficial way, like when Jimmy Carter has traveled to foreign countries, that is probably a legitimate reason to have a back channel. The president can do drat near whatever he wants. Hell, so can Kushner. Like I don't think there's an explicit statute that forbids and American citizen from trying to set up secure secret encrypted communications with Putin. I'm just not sure what possible non-criminal rationale you could have for doing so. Like, even if you're Dennis Rodman going on a personal diplomatic quest to North Korea, you do it publicly, because that's the point. edit: maybe Kushy and Putin are both secretly bronies and the only people they can talk pony play with are each other Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 06:36 on May 27, 2017 |
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May 27, 2017 06:32
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canepazzo posted:Ok things are definitely starting to matter - he cancelled a rally: Wow. I didn't think he'd do that for anything. Is he dead?
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May 27, 2017 14:39
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pacmania90 posted:If this is true, shouldn't he be arrested and charged with a crime? It's Kim DotCom. That's like already happening. He is literally a wanted criminal.
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May 27, 2017 16:39
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Evil Fluffy posted:
My abiding short term fear for this administration is basically: 1) Putin invades the Baltics 2) Trump does not respond to support NATO or even actively helps the Russians, permanently destroying international faith in U.S. commitments and permanently destabilizing NATO OR 3) through confusion and stupidity a nuclear war happens
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May 27, 2017 17:35
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XyrlocShammypants posted:Again, this whole cognitive decline thing they are working toward is the tool he uses to escape prosecution or liability in other cases. It's too obvious to not be the case. Oh it will be his defense but it also seems pretty well supported.
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May 27, 2017 18:23
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withak posted:A back channel to be used by the actual government is fine and isn't the same as a back channel to be used by the son-in-law of someone who wasn't actually president at the time the back channel was proposed. More importantly, government "back channels" are still monitored, they aren't the same kind of setup you'd try to use to share kiddie porn with Putin
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May 27, 2017 18:57
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Crain posted:So this just confirms that the WH staff has hidden the office's ability to contact other heads of state directly. Like. Clearly they haven't told him that he can directly contact our allies. Probably for the best, can you imagine getting a 3am call from Trump to complain about a CNN story? No it just confirms Trump's having memory issues and forgot he can make direct calls. He's made direct calls to other heads of state before.
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May 27, 2017 19:43
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Maybe it's a personal habit, like he thinks giving out his personal number is some kind of token of grace, ahh, you're in the inner circle, let's talk deals. Yeah this is probably it, good call.
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May 27, 2017 20:08
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Crain posted:He fails to understand what NATO is, how it works, and what the USA gets out of the deal on a fundamental level. Yeah, this. Stop assigning rational motives to Trump. He's an email forward given limbs and a maw.
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May 27, 2017 20:09
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Furnaceface posted:Is greed a rational motive? Theoretically sure, but Trump doesn't even understand what he wants or what he's asking for. He's just spitting out phrases because they got cheers at rallies. The mechanism is pavlovian, not rational.
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May 27, 2017 20:25
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Rinkles posted:Alex Jones is a level beyond FOX, and the former hosts (assuming this news is true) might reach new lows, unrestrained by what low standards the station held them accountable to. It seems like the Murdoch kids are deliberately trying to moderate the networks' image
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May 27, 2017 23:14
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glowing-fish posted:I've heard about this "big shakeup" for a while, but actually, Trump seems to be very reticient about changing staff. The only person who has really been fired is Michael Flynn. Other than that, some minor reshuffling. I think Trump's instincts are to fire underlings when there's a problem, if only to divert blame. Issue is, all his current underlings are either too personally connected to fire (kushner), are actually doing a good job given the poo poo they're being handed so firing them would look pathetic and pointless (Spicer), or are too connected to Trump's public image or know too much already or both (Bannon). Plus there's nobody to replace them with because nobody wants to immolate their careers (FBI director job).
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May 28, 2017 01:11
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Rinkles posted:With the disregard they have for anything that isn't a codified requirement of the presidency, I'm honestly surprised we still have press briefings. RATINGS
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stone cold posted:does anybody still post in d&d book thread? everyone please post in book threads book forum so lonely come to book forum and book with us
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I'm just waiting for him to drop trou or wet himself publicly. I'm just kinda curious what will happen. Public nudity and/or incontinence are ust about the only remaining norms he hasn't violated.
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DrNutt posted:It's not that they were bastards, it's just that I don't think there's anything inherently heroic about serving in the military. For many people it's a privilege, and one that ensures an exceptional suite of long and short term benefits (medical care, food and housing, retirement funding, college education). And frankly, there's nothing wrong with honoring those that have died in that service, I just don't like pretending that it was in service to my freedom. Because we are sending people off to die for bullshit. Think of it as a day to honor some of the victims of late stage capitalism
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Ague Proof posted:It's so loving obvious Trump personally colluded with Russia, that most of his team knew about it and some of them helped, and that his party were well aware and probably complicit. It's been obvious since last year just from things that were public knowledge. Every week more damning stuff comes out, real things not the Mensch conspiracy theories. It's going to take something like the piss tape for it to matter and probably not even then, where the conversation will change to "why is being friendlier with Russia a bad thing?" This is an intentional part of the strategy, yeah. Gaslight everything and defend it with team think bullshit. Hell, Trump publicly asked during a rally for Russia to hack Hillary's emails, then it happened.
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