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Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Ground floor. I started playing with a friend just a few months ago so we're waiting for the relaunch to get back in. I've enjoyed the beta so far, though I've stuck to Kingsmouth. They've made it more visually appealing but I hear that other zones didn't get the same treatment.

I can't say I'm a fan of the level restricted quests and the hand holding done by the main story, but I was doing every quest anyways so as long as the plot is intact, I guess it doesn't matter.

Fixed reticle combat works great in some games and I don't mind it, but man I wish they reworked the ui to actually play nice with it.

Also, ground floor first page. Let the excitement turn to disappointment in the first 20 pages.

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Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Is anyone else disturbed by the amount of people asking for full nudity in the game? Even adding the nipples to enemies was a little bit much but that's fine if they want to make it a bit realistic. Asking for the ability to make all players and NPCs naked with fully modeled cock and balls or vaginas is just a level of autism I'm lucky I don't understand.

Weirdly enough, the arguments for it are either "oh it makes the game so much immersive" or "this was responsible for 99% of all Conan Exiles sales so just think of the profits!"

Are any of you autists in the group of people whose experience would be enriched if old lady Norma had nice floppy granny tits that you could ogle? If so, I'd really like to hear how and also what the gently caress is wrong with your broken brain.

The whole thing feels like a pubic hair's width away from the ads on porn sites for "the most adult xxx mmo ever you'll cum in 5 seconds click here it's pussies online!"

E: Just loving stealth the stealth missions. What the gently caress is so hard about them? Aggro ranges are really really small, cameras have really obvious spotlights and patterns, and the jumping/laser grids are few and far between. I've never heard of anyone needing to kill the NPCs to cheese them.

Oh, and don't worry, the junkyard "the floor is lava" achieve is still alive and well.

E2: Fresh from the beta forums.

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They need to port over some of those Conan Exiles dong physics. Having the dressing room bug out and display a Ken doll broke my immersion

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Just to repeat that my main concern about all this is that I'd like an option to give my girls panties when wearing skirts/dresses - ideally with choice of colour via an underwear tab. Not because nudity offends me but just because most of my girls would wear panties, and pretty much all of them wear skirts and dresses pretty much all the time. Ideally there would also be choice to make them anatomically correct nude if I feel like it. Or wear sexy undies (with stockings) if I feel like it. I'm always happy to pay through the nose for cosmetic options - even if I don't use them much or (it turns out) at all. But in public my chars would wear nice skirts/dresses - and just wouldn't 'go commando' while doing so. Most would wear normal white panties, some pink, maybe one char archetype would wear black, so it'd be nice to choose.

Richard M Nixon fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 29, 2017

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Maybe add to the OP that Lairs are now late-endgame raids (presumably regional and world bosses are going to be fuckoff hard).

There are now daily login rewards like Guild Wars 2 where the days are simply "logged in x days total divided by the number of total rewards (x mod d)" and not "logged in x consecutive days".

Current rewards are:

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
So do you guys think that weapon swapping in order to make it through certain encounters/zones will be a thing of the past and we'll only unlock additional weapons for flavor/completionism or to swap specs? It seems like there's much less reliance on managing mob states and trying to get the right combo of conditions and triggers.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

angerbeet posted:

Ugh I'm going to end up playing this, how large is the client download clocking in at?

You can do a minimal install and download new zones as needed if you're in a shithole with bandwidth caps or something.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Am I blind or is provoke (single target taunt) missing from hammer? I don't see any taunt abilities at all, which scares me. In tsw I was doing a hammer / shotgun tank which I enjoyed a lot but keeping aggro early on was hard.

I didn't play much in the beta outside of checking out random combat mechanics but tanking felt a lot weaker than the dps builds. I guess that's to be expected but it makes leveling a nightmare.

I also don't care for the shotgun gimmick since I found it hard to empty all my shells to trigger a reload.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Hmm, I guess it's not that big of a deal, but I'm pleased...

https://twitter.com/SecretWorldLgds/status/872868401122881538

(how the gently caress do you embed tweets...)

3 day early head start for anyone who signed up for the beta, even if you didn't get in. One response says it also includes tsw players but it's unclear if that's automatic or not.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Oh gently caress I just realized that unless lairs are instanced, no more zerging bosses and super fun 50x summon chain runs. The 10 player cap per instance will make things tough. Has anyone tested how it impacts group formation? If your instance is full, how does using the meet up command work? I wonder if parties can get their own private instance.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Guess it's time to think up a cabal name. Awful industries was a poo poo name, let's not repeat that. I'm always partial to the good old goon squad, maybe something with bees or Lowtax. Maybe a filth related joke? I'm not good at puns, please send help.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Hey there are a lot of garbage named goon guilds out there. We're all involved in the brand by association.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Richard M Nixon posted:

Hey there are a lot of garbage named goon guilds out there. We're all involved in the brand by association.

E: I like funcompetence but you know it'll be blacklisted. Maybe intentionally misspelling it will work and be an extra dig?

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
The beta is still closed, not sure what distinction you're going for there. We don't know what time on the 23rd it goes live but there will be a wipe and probably some downtime before then.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Pretty much all combos will be at least somewhat viable. There will always be minmaxing and best builds, but with a lower reliance on combos and tweaked and pruned skills, you should be free to go hog wild.

I was away all weekend and I guess it was more than 30 days since I logged in on my main account so I didn't get an invite. Mega bummer. I hope they do another wave.

I'd really like to hear more clarification on how transfers will work. I have a few unique items across multiple dudes and I would like to have them all available on a single dude in the legends.

I was reading on reddit that some people were trying to give away cosmetics for 1 pax on the ah but when I logged on last night there were only maybe 20 items for sale at 1m of more pax. Rip.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Patch notes for 6/10:

pre:
The Teleport Window will now properly charge the displayed amounts of Anima Shards.
It is now possible to purchase pets that cost Aurum.
Fixed an issue where the following missions could not be obtained despite meeting their requirements:
  Mean Streets
  Digging Deeper
  Strangers from a Strange Land
  Obstructive Persons
  Death and Axes
  Singing Stones
  All Roads Lead to Rome
  The Red Thread

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
It'll probably go away after purchasing something small from the item store. They're still fidgeting with the monetization aspect. Remember how much SWTOR had to sort its poo poo out and it took a good while before they realized that some restrictions are a bad thing and need to be removed.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
As long as the core story is there, I'm hopeful that new players will hang out enough to give funcom time to tune the end game. Tsw isn't really known for its compelling raids and hard core pve, so if they advertise it as story driven and single player or small group, hopefully the blowback is minimal. If people sign up looking for endgame content, there's going to be disappointment no matter what.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
As someone who played a bit back when it first released and then maybe two months worth of gameplay early with year as a girlfriend duo game, I'm excited for new content and a few tweaks but disenchanted with the tone of the revamp. I get what they're trying to do, but I don't know how much staying power this game will have. I'm actually surprised that so many people kept playing after finishing the story, since pvp was not novel in any way and pve was very shallow. This is a story driven experience that works best as a "drop in, play new content, drop out for a few months" kind of thing. If they could package it like gw2 with its living story, I think there would be a lot of people lining up every time content is released.

I'll definitely be there on launch day with the gf and we'll both be subscribed and probably dropping a bit of cash here and there for gadgets and gizmos and maybe even some in game boosts. As long as the game is able to attract a steady stream of players and retain a few of then, it'll probably live a good 4-5 more years. If there's a revamping expansion, who knows. The cash shop will definitely work in their favor and bring in some decent revenue. I know swtor still gets me spending a few hundred a year just on dumbass boxes.

See you goons on Friday.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Avalerion posted:

Which class seems to be the best suited for just doing this?

Literally any of the dps classes will be fine. Everyone has a base self heal and some survivability talents so you'll be able to clear through story content with minimal trouble. Even playing a tank of heal class will get you there, since they all deal dmg at a reasonable level. Just pick whatever weapon pair looks fun to you. It does kind of suck that they took out the training area where you could test every weapon and decide what you want.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I don't think we know how it works yet. It seems to keep your progress with a cookie, so I'm assuming that once everything is unlocked you just go through all the phases and get a key to enter. It suggests that you get all nine weapons, which is cool.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Dark_Swordmaster posted:

Not to us it's not....

What? It's not cool getting free poo poo or...

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Sounds like he's saying that if steam manages the install, it's nuking the old version and installing some other client. If you're on steam, can you grab the client from the tsw account page?

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Mercurius posted:

As has been posted repeatedly, they're different games as far as steam is concerned (ignoring that SWL won't be available on Steam until late July so this is even less of an issue right now). You'll have both clients installed simultaneously if you play both games.

I'm not a steam expert, but the appID entry for TSW was updated to SWL, so I'm thinking that maybe Steam will see it as a single game. I'm not sure what happens to existing content, but if you check the history here it looks like the game was just renamed and given new tags, but Steam will still see it as the original entry. :iiam:

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I just hope the servers can keep it up during launch night.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Many of the weapon specials no longer decay over time, like blade and hammer.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
There'a a headstart devstream Friday at 1pm Eastern, so the speculation is that we can't login until after the stream since they won't want to risk the servers crashing for the stream.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
My guess for Patron is that it's going to be a pretty simple system. Cash only sub with the 1/3/6/12 month options, no perks other than what we've seen.

That means you'll get a boost to XP and whatever currency came from missions (anima?), the daily login bonus of cache key+that other thing, and the extra dungeon/lair keys.

Rewards are probably a FF14/STO style cosmetic or minor utility item after X days of paid subscription. I swear they also posted something about an icon next to your name that increases over time.

The only thing I'm hoping for is the return of a lifetime sub, since spending $200 on a perma-sub to a game is a dumb thing I like to do but TSW wasn't on my radar when it was available.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Goddamn these fucksticks selling cosmetics for millions of pax. They want to be barons of a dead game. Die in a fire.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Bonus points won't transfer, nor will veteran points. There will never be any new veteran items so just buy a cosmetic and xfer it.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Awesome, with the beta client installed it was like two minutes of patching and I'm in.

Weird that there's no option to subscribe, as far as I can see.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Lawlicaust posted:

It's the Patron icon in the upper left hand corner. $13 per month.

Huh I don't see it. Maybe because I had time come over from my tsw account.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I'd really like to be able to disable seeing levels next to everyone's name.

Also, ability queueing has too wide a window. I keep queueing a left/right click and then I have to wait to use another ability.

Still don't see a subscribe option, but they don't need my money now anyways, I guess.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Exmond posted:

Do we have a guild yet?

All the good/funny names were blacklisted. Even the word goon is blacklisted. Thanks, Funcom.

I snagged the name Lowtax's Bees if anyone thinks that's a cool cabal name.

E: Apparently we can change the faction name later. Post your character names for an invite. I think you have to be online for it to work, :iiam:.

E2: Three runs through polaris, 15x distillates and 0 'real' loot. Woop.

Richard M Nixon fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Jun 24, 2017

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Amante posted:

Is there any way to upgrade item quality pips? For that matter, are the dungeon drop talismans with special effects worth using if they're 1 or 2 pips?

Upgrading item rarity takes two max-lv items, so if you have a 3* item and a 1* item at max lv, you can combine them and turn the 3* into the next rarity level and find a good use for the 1* garbage.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Doorknob Slobber posted:

i didn't get any of my clothing items when i claimed tsw legacy things im sad

Did you check your dressing room? Is your character the same gender as your TSW character?

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Everyone who is online right now was invited except Brometheus who is ignoring them. Everyone who is in the cabal can invite other goons, so it should go faster now.

Alt-tab closes all the open UI windows you have, which is retarded. I guess I have to rebind the alt key.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Pryce posted:

I thought existing accounts got all weapons unlocked? All my pages say they need to be purchased, and I did the account transfer yesterday :(

You have to get up to the point where you're standing on the platform about to go to Kingsmouth and then you can go menu -> delivered items and click claim TSW vanity items.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Third World Reggin posted:

420 full blood magic no secondary weapon

I was in a dungeon with two blood users and it was a constant POW POW POW of explosions from them. Fun stuff.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
Remember to post your char names to join the cabal.

Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."

Third World Reggin posted:

lol so marks are silly, I don't have much for them with all weapons unlocked, so I guess I am gonna keep upgrading sprint speed

It's the main item purchase currency so you'll probably eventually want some to buy items to feed your upgrades or buy poo poo from vendors. We do have a few months of grind removed thanks to unlocked weapon pages, which is awesome.

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Richard M Nixon
Apr 26, 2009

"The greatest honor history can bestow is the title of peacemaker."
I don't know how I feel about it, but the cache keys we get are pretty expensive so that's a nice bonus.

There isn't a single unified cash shop, is there? I haven't found where to buy the reagent that lets me upgrade items with aurum so I'm guessing it's part of whatever ui element we use for it.

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