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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Thanks Ants posted:That's The Sheaf I think. Nice pub. It is. And it is.
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namesake posted:We're getting conflicting reports here, I'll have to consult the CAMRA Good Pub Guide and check the floor plans. Upon closer inspection it doesn't have the sofa's so I think keckse is right.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:36
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jabby posted:I'm not sure. Spree killers want that sort of thing, but for religious ideologues I'd imagine their intent would just be to kill and spread terror rather than achieve fame. Especially if they think they're reward will be in the next life. A lot of recruitment materials use the media coverage as ways to show the kids they're trying to radicalise "you will matter" in a way that's more tangible than the promise of the next life. That's still the angle they push but the coverage is a huge gateway.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:10
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Julio Cruz posted:I think a front page saying something like "we're not publishing photos of the perpetrators because we don't want to encourage others to follow in their footsteps" would be well enough received. The problem is getting all the editors to agree to that sort of policy. Yeah the problem is that the Sun will just throw up the identity on their front page and every other paper will report the Sun's report, allowing them to keep the moral highground. Once one breaks ranks everyone breaks ranks.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:21
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Something seeming to be happening up by Monument Station now.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:27
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Isn't blue thunder like, well, lightning? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnEDrVpbXO4 They named it literally after the film.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:00
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Explosions now by the Sun offices on London Bridge street. Likely to be controlled ones.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:33
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Some hacks seem to be under the impression that the Sun has some footage of one of the attackers getting shot. So there's your Monday front page.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:57
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namesake posted:We're getting conflicting reports here, I'll have to consult the CAMRA Good Pub Guide and check the floor plans. Update: We have confirmation the pub was the Sheaf.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:38
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6 dead. All three suspects shot and killed by the police and the canisters around the body were a "hoax"
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Jun 4, 2017 04:02
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Extreme0 posted:I expected it to be more than six honestly. Though that could change by tommorow if there are still issues with the injured. Apparently the whole incident from when the van went up on the pavement to the last suspect being shot lasted only 8 minutes. The footage from inside the bar which was one of the first things that came out happened just after the last shooting. Everything since then has been clear up and making sure no one else was involved.
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Jun 4, 2017 04:14
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Guy Goodbody posted:A hoax as in they never existed or a hoax as in they weren't actually bombs? The press got that clarified. They were literally wearing canisters and stuff as to appear that they were wearing explosive devices, but they were apparently fake.
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Jun 4, 2017 04:21
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I have a feeling this one is going to get more coverage than the Manchester bombing, purely because intentionally or not it took place in an area that is a real press hangout. A lot of the eye witnesses on site were hacks themselves, to the point the managing editor of the spectator was on the bridge when the van went on the pavement. There's going to be a whole lot of first hand copy written about this.
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Jun 4, 2017 05:02
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But you see the communities don't do enough to tackle the problem, furthermore *sound of projectile vomiting*
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Jose posted:i loving hope this happens I believe the Met's response with three days notice will be "gently caress the gently caress off." And then he'll tweet about how the Mayor banned him from coming.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:03
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Right now if I'm Tory HQ I'm praying that Trump doesn't respond to Corbyn.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:27
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The tories are getting so worked up about this nuke thing that I haven't entirely written off May nuking someone just to show that she would actually do it.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:53
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Snipee posted:What the gently caress, SNP. Are the defense industries disproportionately located in the north for some reason? They voted with Corbyn against arms sales.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:57
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I'm seriously starting to think that if May wins she should probably plan to avoid being out of the country for anything longer than 6 hours at a time.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:45
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thehappyprince posted:no one should've been paid money to write that. Thankfully you can be assured if it's in the Guardian the odds are nobody did.
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Jun 5, 2017 00:59
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Jane Merrick should be noted is always good for a Corbyn attack piece. She's the one responsible for putting out there the "Corbyn is a weird jam man" thing in repeated articles in the Indie, and went after him over his plans to make sure kids have school lunches. No I have no idea why the Guardian would publish her, but they sure love to.
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Jun 5, 2017 01:10
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thehappyprince posted:has something changed since polly toynbee admitted she gets £100k a year Big name columnists get stupid money. Everyone else gets paid in exposure. Also they have the highest number of unpaid internships of any of the nationals, and are in the process of doing their latest round of quarterly wage and staff cuts. They've been bleeding money for a while and it's not stopping any time soon. But they just paid for a new garden in their building. Edit: Also as mentioned 100k isn't really much for a columnist with any presence.
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Jun 5, 2017 01:12
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Corbyn being a weird jam man is an attack? Let me introduce you to one of the weirdest articles of 2016 in which Jane Merrick writes about what Corbyn's love of jam means about his ability to run the country: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-traingate-labour-leader-jam-a7211486.html
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Jun 5, 2017 01:27
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Has anyone got the link to the original article where the shoot to kill quote came from so I can show someone the actual context of it?
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Jun 5, 2017 16:11
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Tigey posted:I've stopped getting anti-Corbyn attack ads on Youtube: the only ones I'm getting now are all about Abbott: Corbyn's approval rating, and like's/dislikes are now genuinely good and better than May's, to the point where additional attack ads against him aren't likely to actually have any effect. Abbot's by comparison are really bad. She's now probably the biggest point of weakness for the campaign. OwlFancier posted:I wonder what all youse are looking at that gets you tory ads, I just get the same one telling me to vote as a youth. It's mostly regional/age group targeted on youtube. The ad's aren't related to the content you're watching or your viewing history.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:23
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Oberleutnant posted:I guess because McDonnell riles tories up too much. Better to keep his head down until after a hypothetical win, maybe? It's more or less this. He doesn't test brilliantly with audiences. Also traditionally parties try for the most part to keep Chancellors out of the lime light during elections as they have a tendency to be the most unpopular with the population, and any off the cuff comment they make is seen as a sign of potential treasury policy going forward. Hammond did like 2 appearances for the Tories and both times it ended up causing them problems.
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Jun 5, 2017 20:48
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Darth Walrus posted:Now I want to see the Corbyn version of the 'exudes erotic appeal' article. I'm suddenly reminded of the Quentin Lett's piece from like a decade ago where he spoke at length about how much he wanted to be dominated by May.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:03
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Corbyn is remarkably human and likeable.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:37
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Fans posted:I think it's because that's the day people are least likely to be drunk. It is actually related to the likelihood of being drunk. quote:UNTIL 1918, polling at General Elections took place over several days and at one time different constituencies could complete polling on different days, thereby - it was alleged - creating a bandwagon effect for a successful political party. The 1918 Representation of the People Act restricted polling to one day (except for Orkney and Shetland until 1929). Since 1918 a General Election has always been on a Thursday, except for 1918, 1922, 1924 and 1931. The reason for choosing Thursday, it is said, was as follows. On Fridays the voters were paid their wages and if they went for a drink in a public house they would be subject to pressure from the Conservative brewing interests, while on Sundays they would be subject to influence by Free Church ministers who were generally Liberal in persuasion. Therefore choose the day furthest from influence by either publicans or Free Church clergymen, namely Thursday. Although these influences are much less significant today, the trend towards Thursday becoming a universal polling day has continued, because Urban District Councils and Rural District Councils all polled on a Saturday until they were abolished under the 1972 Local Government Act. Their successor District Councils poll on a Thursday and the Parish Council polling day was changed from Saturday to Thursday at the same time.
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Jun 6, 2017 00:52
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analphabetic posted:Just had a look on Facebook, and.... it seems to be full of people posting stuff about the mayor of London being a terrorist supporter. The usual right wing groups that hide in plain sight with their "like this post if you support our troops or love adorable puppies" stuff have been posting poo poo for the last two days about "Khan's links to ISIS." All of it bollocks, but it's presented in that bullshit "this is common knowledge" way and references a circular group of right wing websites that all reference each other and so ignorant people are biting. It's infuriating as ever
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Jun 6, 2017 15:16
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Jose posted:loving hell may is actually on course to talking about internment camps the way things are going She's pushing for new house arrest orders. Because you know, those are cheaper than setting up internment camps.
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Jun 6, 2017 19:53
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Doccykins posted:Sky have been more impartial than the BBC this campaign imo. Might be something to do with the ministerial boycott near the start of the campaign or Laura Kuennessberg being May's campaign chief The election hosed up the merger ruling, so they're both annoyed at May for calling it and costing them money while also have a vested interest in not pissing off any of the possible future governments. From a wider newscorp perspective the Time's coverage has been fairly good and balanced, somehow at points to the left of the Guardian, while the Sun behaved itself for a while before jumping off the deep end when Labour started to move in the polls.
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Jun 6, 2017 19:59
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OwlFancier posted:How does house arrest work if you default on your rent? Congratulations you broke the term of your order, you're gong to jail. Why yes as these terrorism orders would be used against suspected terrorists, who may not have committed any crime or those who they would never be able to get a conviction this means that you would have people who never received a trial or even been accused directly of any crime going to prison.
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Jun 6, 2017 21:32
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The mail's copy starts off with a tone of fake reasonableness about Corbyn, but when it reaches McDonnell and Abbott it loses it's drat mind. The Sun's front page is more effective on the shelves, the actual copy inside promises too much and delivers far too little even for it's audience.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:32
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Guy Goodbody posted:She's been PM for awhile now, right? Does she have a track record that justifies the safe hands argument? She's coming up for a year. The one thing she points at is triggering article 50. Other than that she has nothing.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:48
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Actually to be fair I should probably give some context to where the strong and stable poo poo comes from. It isn't at all related to her governance of the country, but it was always intended as an attack on the perception of Labour as a divided party with weak leadership. When the election started she had an absolutely ridiculous lead over Corbyn on "seen as strong" and her approval rating was the highest recorded. Since then both have plummeted and Corbyn is polling higher on both counts.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:51
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Guy Goodbody posted:Wait, what? She made it illegal to marry a foreigner if you're poor? What the gently caress? And for the real head gently caress, they've been using the fact that this very policy that they introduced doesn't apply to EU citizens currently due to freedom of movement, as a way to attack freedom of movement arguing it's unfair that a Brit can bring their German SO over when someone who has a SO from outside of the EU cannot.
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Jun 7, 2017 01:03
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If Labour win I personally think that drunkposting should be allowed in this thread on Friday.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:26
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Cooper won't be the first to announce, she'll let a couple of other people come forward first and then come in at the urging of other PLP members as a unity option. Someone will float her name before about 2am in a talking head piece on BBC, perhaps not even a member of the Labour party.
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TheRat posted:From ICM person: ICM already leaked their last poll this evening with a 12 point lead for the Tories so I have no idea what he's stirring up.
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