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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Want to vote space navies but they don't stand in my constituency and you call this democracy
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Jun 1, 2017 00:31
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Alliance are the sister party to the Lib Dems and a fair few of em have dual membership, though last time they had an MP she didn't take the lib dem whip
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Jun 1, 2017 00:35
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Angepain posted:Also someone please tell me more about this space navy and can I join the space navy and do I get to fire a space gun on a space boat  
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Jun 1, 2017 00:41
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Last time the space navies party came up I accidentally insulted them by implying they werent registered Turns out i was wrong http://search.electoralcommission.org.uk/English/Registrations/PP549
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Jun 1, 2017 00:41
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:So based on the Yougov projections the Tories will not take a majority correct? Parties can make coalitions but its more likely you'd have piecemeal agreements to secure confidence support, that is minor parties agreeing to vote with the government on confidence motions and budgets to facilitate a minority government but voting as they desire on other bills If no one can hammer out a working majority for a budget vote you can't get a minority government. Labour would need to gain 22 seats as it stands if they wrangle all labour sympathetic parties to back them, and that's assuming no minority party losses
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Jun 1, 2017 02:01
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The Tories could survive as a minority by wrangling support if they fall roughly 14 seats shy
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Jun 1, 2017 02:03
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Dzhay posted:I assume the demographics at work here are more than just age; there's no-where near as much of a hate-on for the Lib-Dems among people my age I know IRL. Did they vote in 2010
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Jun 1, 2017 08:36
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Kippers have strong opinions on kippers
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Jun 1, 2017 11:44
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If its a hung parliament I don't think a formal coalition is on the cards - of the minority parties I could only maybe see the Greens agreeing to join a formal coalition (which would probably just amount to appointing Lucas secretary of state for the environment). I don't think the Lib Dems want to tie themselves to the government that delivers Brexit
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Jun 1, 2017 12:21
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Jose posted:lol the libdems will tie themselves to anything that gives them power Nah I think the Brexit thing is kind of their niche now more so than "student loans!" ever was and honestly if its a hung parliament any sensible person would be prepping for another election within 2 years tops so you don't want to dump your whole angle before Brexit is done and dusted
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Jun 1, 2017 12:24
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Like 2 years is extremely generous for the lifetime of a minority government considering 20th century precedent
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Jun 1, 2017 12:27
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Seek help for your gambling addiction
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Jun 1, 2017 14:08
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OrthoTrot posted:I think you forget what a massive deal they made out of tuition fees in the 2010 election. Their pledge was almost comically overblown. Yeah but I think the dynamics of a party on the rise making promises v a party in decline clinging on for dear life post voter flight are different dynamics and I doubt the lib dem membership would endorse a coalition agreement again with the taste of ashes relatively fresh in their mouths. I mean a confidence pact to support the Tories if government formation drags on for weeks upon weeks and another election is on the brink of happening could be foreseeable (to forestall paniced voter drift to the Tories for "stability" and to maximise any advantage before it evaporated) - but I think they'll want to be in a position to maintain their Brexit position to remain electorally viable. Of course being the party that has the power to collapse government and eventually following through on it could benefit you - though last time the libs did that they got punished for it
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Jun 1, 2017 14:15
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Brexit is happening, realign your epistemes. Furthermore I am consigned that single market membership is not going to happen even under Labour, if not because of freedom of movement then due to state aid rules which are unlikely to be reformed under Merkel and Macron and may be a non-insignificant spanner in Labours investment bank idea depending how its planned
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Jun 1, 2017 16:54
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Spangly A posted:it'd be interesting to see if the EU decide to care about strictly interpreting rules towards the UK, I can't imagine corporate infrastructure competition is too high on the agenda tbh. Although Germany get a shitload of money from the trains, don't they? Considering recent EC actions over state aid in regard to Ireland and Luxembourg and noises made by Macron about closing the tax gap and the general balance of trade I think the EU is going to be quite bullish on insisting the UK maintain state aid rules as they exist - which Corbyn himself has stated he believes needs reformed
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Jun 1, 2017 17:03
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In the event of a Labour government I can deffo see that being a bone of contention that would put single market membership in the long grass
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Jun 1, 2017 17:05
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MikeCrotch posted:I guess it depends on how much power Macron actually has then - I can imagine there are a quite a few people in the French government and elsewhere in Europe who would probably want those rules reformed as well. Remember the CETA investment courts issue that the EU insisted on - and the UK has been abiding by, and pushed strongly for, existing EU state aid rules for decades unlike Canada and those are considerably stricter Demanding continuity of regulations for continuity of tariff free access seems extremely plausible
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Jun 1, 2017 17:29
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Regarde Aduck posted:Don't give the press any ideas. Lest we forget 
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Jun 2, 2017 15:27
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This is Grim4Corbyn
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Jun 2, 2017 16:38
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crispix posted:Who is the other Alliance/Irish non sectarian voter? Persumably someone who lives in east or south belfast
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Jun 2, 2017 23:13
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I'm on to you
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Jun 2, 2017 23:13
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OwlFancier posted:Unless right to remain in one EU country also gives you free movement which I don't know if it does. In most of the EU if you acquire long-term residency status by legally living in the country for 5 years without using social assistance (unemployment) you can then exercise freedom of movement to live/work in another EU country - but the demands that you are self-sufficient/working reset and you don't gain permanent residency in your new country until you reside there for further 5 years The UK has an opt out of this system by the way (surprise)
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Jun 3, 2017 01:22
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I think it may just be flytipping disguised as protest
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Jun 3, 2017 19:07
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Lacks originality. 3/10
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Jun 3, 2017 22:53
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blunt posted:Given that we don't have a government at the moment (all MPs have resigned etc), is there any mechanism to delay an election? What if an attack was the day before? We don't have a parliament but we do have a government - the PM and all ministers stay in place after a dissolution until new ministers are appointed
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Jun 3, 2017 22:55
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True, They could have just shelled that bar saving valuable police time
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Jun 3, 2017 23:21
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I wonder how long till "questions" are asked about the CTA what with the Irish identity card thing getting traction...
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Jun 5, 2017 14:14
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Election day child catching
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Jun 5, 2017 22:24
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Its already been pointed out that Ashcroft is using an mrp model as well rather than constituency by constituency polling and he's got the Tories at a 60 seat majority - falling to 40-59 based on self-reported likelihood to vote
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Jun 5, 2017 22:57
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Pissflaps posted:My personal modelling shows an 80 seat Tory majority. Ah is that based on a survey of your gut or yer missus
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Jun 5, 2017 23:01
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I hope you can work things out with your wife pissflaps
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Jun 5, 2017 23:07
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In not surprised the Tories are targeting don valley, it falls neatly into the bracket of seats that voted leave where the combined Tory+UKIP vote would exceed the Labour vote share (slimly in this case) which was always considered a bracket of Tory targets
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Jun 6, 2017 10:08
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Yeah, for reference, the results of that constituency in 2015: Also I'm pretty sure its one of the 20 odd seats UKIP aren't contesting I think it's 20ish?
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Jun 6, 2017 10:32
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Its 26 marginal labour held seats UKIP are staying clear of Knew it was 20 something
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Jun 6, 2017 10:53
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feedmegin posted:You mean 'not standing so they don't lose their deposits because they're poor now without Arron Banks as sugardaddy' tbh No these are seats with healthy UKIP votes where Tory+UKIP would exceed labour
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Jun 6, 2017 11:02
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Gort posted:That Yougov model just goes to show how ultimately hosed-up our political system is. SNP gets 4% of the vote, and gets 46 MPs. Lib Dems get 9% of the vote, and get 12 MPs. Twice the voters. A quarter of the representation. Plaid get 0.5% of seats with 0.6% of the vote so its actually roughly proportion
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Jun 6, 2017 15:30
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STV would be the obvious pr-lite solution but considering historic party dynamics you might get some weirdness - imagine "vote SNP twice" but played out with three lab/con candidates a piece contesting a five seater
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Jun 6, 2017 15:35
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sassassin posted:Based on advice itt I'm going to vote Tory even though the candidate looks like a knob. You could always write in a vote for UKIP or the corpse of Enoch Powell
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Jun 6, 2017 15:40
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By write in of course I mean scrawl with a PERMANENT marker
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Jun 6, 2017 15:41
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MikeCrotch posted:The "vote SNP twice" issue was with PMS, not STV. The big problem with STV would be that you would never have a majority government again and you would get "coalition of chaos" adverts, but forever. I mean imagine the same arguments being used to call on voters to transfer down to three labour candidates as "the only option!" hammering down third party first preferences and transfers
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