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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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That parliawint thing is really played out

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Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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May looked absolutely loving knackered tonight

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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As a rule I stay away from caring at all about anyone who is famous on YouTube but that Paul Joseph Watson guy is someone who's ended up hitting the radar from Facebook and stuff and Jesus Christ I hate that guy

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Where do you think a nuclear deterrent conversation is going to get you? What's your goal from this posting endeavour?

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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I'm not sure about this like

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Have the Tories polled below 43% in any poll yet? My bet is that there is a little bit more tightening to come in the last few days from the the polls showing the biggest lead, with an 8% lead being the actual result on the day.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Didn't Banksy get revealed by all the papers about 18 months ago? He was a normal looking white guy from Bristol called Robin, they spoke to him and he basically said "yeah I'm Banksy, who cares who I am". Did I dream that?

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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What's with the "BBC presenter tries to..." angle? The tweet comes off like it's celebrating Paul Mason winning an argument, but a) she was quoting what Amber Rudd as a discursive point, it didn't seem to me like she was pushing any agenda at all, and b) Paul Mason was a BBC journalist for like 10 years, he only moved to Channel 4 a few years ago.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Kurtofan posted:

angler angling for angle
Two professional journalists, not party politicians, who were almost certainly colleagues for years, on a discussion panel, going over party claims, during election season. That's how these conversations work. Anyone who reads that as the renegade Mason owning the biased MSM doesn't understand what they're looking at.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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OwlFancier posted:

I was really confused because I was sure that Paul Mason was a chode.

But apparently he's cool?
He's a proper burn-it-all-down pinko. Why did you think he was a chode?

I'm reading his wiki now and I'm more surprised that he's 57

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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How come polling intention polls don't include the SNP by the way?

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Pissflaps posted:

They will just not in the little graphical twitter summaries.

I believe there's a big Scotland only poll out tonight.
Oh right sorry the numbers don't up add to 100%, oops.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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It's weird how desensitised you get. I have been to London Bridge many times and know a lot of people that work in that area of London, I've drank in the pub that is in that shot and will currently have 50 police cars outside it. But when the news alert came through my reaction was "another one? ffs" and then just carried on with what I was doing.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Is Borough Market open on a Saturday night?

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff.

"Shy voter" is synonymous with "ashamed that they're actual selfish voter", basically. They're shy because they don't want to admit that actually, they want to keep their money and not pay as much tax, someone else should really be paying instead. They don't really want to have to have their lives interrupted by strikes, they should be able to get to work on time. They're a bit afraid of all the muslims and would like to see less of them around, even though you shouldn't say that because people will think you're a racist.

It's not about being cool or credible, it's about voting for something that you know is probably going to hurt people, but helps you, and they don't want to admit that they are that person deep down. No one voting for Corbyn is reluctant to admit they voted for him. So I don't think you can really have "shy Corbynites" just by nature.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this post, but I hope you're okay mate, sincerely.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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They're reporting three incidents, but it appears that the London Bridge and Borough Market ones are the same? Van driving into people on the bridge, crashing near the market (100 yards down the road) and then guys with knives jumping out.

There's no information on the Vauxhall incident so it may be something completely separate.

There is now also chatter about Monument station, which is on the other side of the Thames from Borough Market, across the (closed) bridge.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Hurrr I'm going to quote the troll posts and give them a withering dismissive put down to get them to stop because that's exactly what works my god some of you get a grip

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Best stabbing-related news I've had this month

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Hoops posted:

They're reporting three incidents, but it appears that the London Bridge and Borough Market ones are the same? Van driving into people on the bridge, crashing near the market (100 yards down the road) and then guys with knives jumping out.

There's no information on the Vauxhall incident so it may be something completely separate.

There is now also chatter about Monument station, which is on the other side of the Thames from Borough Market, across the (closed) bridge.
Quoting myself here as the thread will be going quite fast - unless there's two white vans then it seems like they are the same incident

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Paperhouse posted:

I've been out of the loop for all of today, what's been the word on how QT was viewed in the papers and that and are there any new polls. Yes I am a lazy gently caress.
I'd probably give BBC News a quick gander if I were you

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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He's a troll, he's having a joke, you're reacting to it, what the gently caress is wrong with all of you are you autistic

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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forkboy84 posted:

Stop using autistic as an insult you bellend
I was actually serious, A lot of thread regulars here do not have strong control over their emotions and are unable to understand when someone is not making a literal argument.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Spangly A posted:

if he wants to expend that much effort its only polite that we laugh

you get real mad about the most pointless poo poo itt hoops
I'm trying to read real discussions and not have it get derailed every couple of hours by people who don't realise they're being baited. You're the problem, not them.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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I can not believe how badly May has done. She was supposed to get a 100 seat majority.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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I don't know how wrong the exit poll has to be for the Tories to end up with an increased majority, but if anything other than that happens Theresa May is resigning tomorrow

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Oh shiiiitttttt. That's a bit of a curve ball.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Night10194 posted:

So she basically picked the absolute worst possible coalition partner in every way?
For this week, yes. You will basically never hear about the DUP in the news again after the next few weeks, so they might end up being a great choice for the Tories as it gets them a government that is pretty much 100% Conservative Party in the eyes of the public without having to actually win the seats.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Have we had any data through about youth turnout? Final split was 40% Labour which I don't think I saw any poll that high, so there must have been a very good turnout, just wondering how good.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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TomViolence posted:

Young people are the future.
Until they buy their own home basically, and then they go Tory.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Theresa May really, really hates Whatsapp doesn't she? You have to assume she's seen a bunch of stuff as Home Secretary that proves that yes terrorists are using it to organise attacks, but is she just clueless on the technology?

All Home Secretaries are fascists because preventing attacks is a huge win for them whilst protecting civil liberties doesn't really get them anything, so the incentive to be authoritarian is too high. So the idea that these companies are encrypting their messages must really get her goat. But it's just a messaging service, I don't know if she thinks it's something more than that, the way Snapchat or Twitter were new forms of communication that didn't really exist before. You just send texts and it's a bit easier to make group chats, that's it.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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OwlFancier posted:

She probably hates the idea that nobody can read it, the idea of something being literally beyond the power of anyone to control is probably difficult for someone who isn't familiar with encryption to comprehend. Uninterceptable messaging is, like, the holy grail of espionage and now everyone can download it and use it.
I suppose that is where the perspective difference comes from actually, you may be right. To me, the idea of uninterceptible messaging is completely standard, there is no assumption that there should be some technical method of message surveillance. But for someone of her, and most senior staff at the home office's age, they have lived through a time of cat and mouse de-encryption and counterespionage measures. I find it funny that they're obsessed with having a foolproof way of breaking into internet-based messages because it seems so obvious that that ship has sailed, universal surveillance is off the table and you'll never win.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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communism bitch posted:

If you want anarchosyndicalist flags there are about 10,000,000 on google images.
Like this one, for example:

:haw:
Lol that it's a watermarked anarchist flag and all that, but they realise it's just a rectangle that's half red and half black? Those counterfeiters will really have their work cut out for them.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Sounds like the DUP need to gently caress off and murder themselves

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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kustomkarkommando posted:

I would have thought David Davis is more likely as a transitional leader
I don't think you can do a transitional leader whilst you're in power, and in the middle of negotiations with the EU. I think they have to pick their guy. Which maybe it is David Davis, he's the most high profile guy that isn't either absolutely despised or Boris. Any temporary leader is on such a hiding to nothing that they may as well just keep May for another 6-12 months until some dust has settled.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Would you take Dave back if that was one of the options? He really didn't do anything that bad by Tory standards. I know he hosed that dead pig in the mouth, but I can forgive.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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I think I'm also in the camp of "people are counting their chickens with a re-run of the election". Corbyn turned it around massively and the Tories absolutely clown car fell apart. Both of these things happened to a much greater degree than appeared likely at the start of the campaign.

But it is about perception. Look at how things can change so quickly, sometimes I think it's about nothing but perception. Corbyn is now established as the real (and quite powerful) opposition leader and his manifesto is popular and good. Labour are back in business and will be for a while. But they ran out of runway for momentum and aren't campaigning any more. If the Tories don't have another improbably poor period of basic politics then they will quite quickly re-establish the same old tropes. From a "reversion to the mean" perspective, I'm not convinced enough yet that Labour have managed to move the mean far enough that they won't see a partial swing back to the Tories.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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Lightning Lord posted:

Yeah that's a good point, how come everyone's buttmad about the IRA but don't seem to care about the UDA? They blew up a ton of people too.
They didn't bomb mainland Britain so people from mainland Britain don't really worry about them. Not saying it's right, but it's a pretty easy position to understand.

Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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What's the difference between First Secretary of State and Deputy PM? Either formally or in practice. Is there one?

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Hoops
Aug 19, 2005


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happyhippy posted:

- Michael Gove

This is the level of idiocy we are working with.
Isn't that a sensible and intelligent opinion though? Build coding and computer science into IT lessons?

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