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Maybe we could start a pool for when the size of the list of banned current events in the current events thread equals the list of Homeland Security terror threat search terms.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 21:22 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 22:21 |
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Is there any evidence out there to support the theory that Trump had to turn to Russia for investment money because he had burned all his bridges with U.S. sources of money?
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2017 14:11 |
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CHICKEN SHOES posted:DFAC chicken is about on par with a microwaved banquet tv dinner from 1992 Zeris posted:Not saying that I'm rooting for Russia, but I would kill to see Putin clown on the 71 year old obese man with dementia. Putin could walk out with a couple straps of $100 bills sticking out of the fly of his trousers.
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2017 21:14 |
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Reverand maynard posted:correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there is actually any law that allows news papers to protect their sources The feds and most of the states have some form of newspaperman's privilege. e: here's a guide by (U.S.) jurisdiction joat mon fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jul 7, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 10:25 |
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Reverand maynard posted:how solid is it though? My understanding is that its more of an unwritten rule than actual laws. That said, it's not solid, particularly on the Fed side. At best, it's a soft balancing test between the benefits of a free press and and the ability of the government to investigate crimes. Again, on the Fed side, the respect given to the privilege has mostly been driven by the unwillingness of the executive to wreck an understanding and relationship with the press that's always more or less worked. If you have an executive that does not know or care how things work and doesn't know or doesn't care that actions have consequences or effects, things can get really ... interesting.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 11:06 |
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What's with the flying holes?
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 17:22 |
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The [what?] will fly out of the police soon?
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 18:08 |
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Casimir Radon posted:In her case it's just plain stupidity. Now if Bannon or Ghorka wrote it you can be sure it was a dogwhistle. If it was her ignorance, what were the 14 words she actually had in mind?
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 23:30 |
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I guess the 14 word save is, “Let us all fight like the Poles. For family, freedom, for country, for God.” http://www.youngcons.com/while-overseas-trump-hails-populist-poland-declares-west-must-defend-civilization-and-faith/?ref=FacebookPost Which wasn't quite what Trump said, So, together, let us all fight like the Poles -- for family, for freedom, for country, and for God. http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/06/politics/trump-speech-poland-transcript/ Which just makes clearer the intent of the dogwhistle and less plausible the "oh, no, we certainly didn't mean that." (teeheehee) joat mon fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 7, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 7, 2017 23:36 |
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facialimpediment posted:I think the intent was to spotlight the notable quotes, but the formatting doesn't work right on mobile (at a minimum). Sort of like when a notable sentence is pulled from a long rant as a preview to the answer in the article. From the 'how we got the interview' article: quote:“I’d like to begin by asking some questions directed to our high school audience,” Teddy said. Mattis’ response set the tone for the rest of the interview.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2017 18:30 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:These emails are actual hard evidence of multiple crimes Which ones? accepting/ soliciting aid from foreign nationals? Neither Jr's release or the NYT article get there. accepting/ soliciting Russian hacking? Neither Jr's release or the NYT article get there. foreign agent registration act? Neither Jr's release or the NYT article get there. As for the drug analogy, according to the NYT article / Jr's release, Hey! I've got something that will make you feel good! Cool! lets meet, I'll bring some friends! Do you want some ginko biloba? Maybe some four loco! uhhh.... But what I really want to talk about is my scentsy business! So far as I can tell, there's nothing out there to contradict Jr.'s account of the meeting. Not fire, still smoke. CHICKEN SHOES posted:am I allowed to get my hopes up this time because uhhhh this seems crazy joat mon fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jul 11, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 17:41 |
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BUG JUG posted:Reposting this in full for when you go back and edit it. I would LOVE to be wrong.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 18:10 |
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TBeats posted:Fox News anchor just said this exact thing, and maybe someone can check the accuracy of the claim: "Collusion is not a crime so be that it is not being held in exchange for favors, especially during a political election." Collusion is not a crime in this context, though it can be in an antitrust context. Regarding 2016's presidential campaign issues, 'collusion' is being used colloquially, not legally. Collusion is a less culturally and less legally loaded term than conspiracy, which I guess is why its being used. The solicitation angle comes from Title 52, section 30121 of the U.S. Code which has to do with Contributions and donations by foreign nationals. For trump purposes, there are two different crimes here: quote:It shall be unlawful for— quote:It shall be unlawful for— Title 11, section 110.20 of the Combined Federal Register (Federal regulations) lays out what definitions are to be used in this context - in this case, at 11 CFR 300.2. quote:To solicit. For the purposes of part 300, to solicit means to ask, request, or recommend, explicitly or implicitly, that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value. A solicitation may be made directly or indirectly. The context includes the conduct of persons involved in the communication. A solicitation does not include mere statements of political support or mere guidance as to the applicability of a particular law or regulation. quote:(1) The following types of communications constitute solicitations: So, back to 52 USC 30121. 1) No foreign national gave or promised to give Clinton opposition research to Trump or anyone connected to the campaign. Opposition research could be a thing of value that could constitute a donation. 2) No Trump person solicited the opposition research - Goldstone solicited Trump Jr. I don't think Jr. agreeing to a meeting set up by Goldstone can transfer Goldstone's solicitation of Jr. to a solicitation by Jr, but I haven't researched it. e: for the masochists, further comments on the definition of solicit as used in the contributions and donations by foreign nationals statute. Start at page 69942. Short answer: solicit was meant to be narrowly construed as a specific asking, and not broadly construed as a suggestion. What was envisioned was "a palpable communication intended to, and reasonably understood to, convey a request for some [donation]." joat mon fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jul 11, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 20:14 |
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psydude posted:I think Richard Painter actually does a good job of boiling all of this down: drat straight. BTW, that's Richard Painter, GWB's Ethics Lawyer. (maybe not in 2017) quote:In the Bush administration we could have had him in custody for questioning by now.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2017 22:08 |
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CHICKEN SHOES posted:sorry for a tweet but I dont care if this was the most ~liberal president~ or anything this poo poo just makes me mad and freaks me the gently caress out If it's any consolation, it probably freaked Trump out, too. Interestingly, I'd imagine his narcissism provided the framework to process it pretty quickly.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 12:39 |
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:Opinions on Wray? Feinstein announced she's voting for his confirmation Second tier, but not a bad choice. He said all the right words in his confirmation hearing. Franken has signaled his support as well.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 19:44 |
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Two Finger posted:Does that apply for impeachment? At least on the federal side, absolutely not. Two Finger posted:So if trump Jr goes down for this does that tar retard dad with the same brush? Criminally? It depends on what the additional evidence is that allows them to get Jr. If it also implicates dad in a crime, why not? joat mon fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 00:11 |
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pick up the pace posted:I feel bad for the poor public defender who eventually gets assigned this case The only lawyers who can't refuse a case.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 04:46 |
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MA-Horus posted:With a 5-alarm hangover. Being a PD in New Orleans is about as tough as it gets for PDs.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 13:41 |
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Godholio posted:Is...is this a real quote? From the White House transcript of the conversation. This was the 'off-the-record' conversation that Trump was upset about because it wasn't mentioned by the press. e: awaiting word that it will be transparent gold, 12,000 stadia long, and 144 cubits thick. joat mon fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jul 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 21:38 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:This is one of the names that rings the biggest of bells, but I couldn't name a single loving movie of his to save my life. Space 1999 was all I could remember.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2017 19:10 |
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suboptimal posted:Also: the President is a fat gently caress No, he's not fit. On the other hand, that article is the journalistic equivalent of cotton candy. (If cotton candy tasted like salt free saltines)
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 01:27 |
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Smiling Jack posted:Every case this guy has ever touched is 100% done unless you have other officers as witnesses, and even then the defense is gonna get this guy on the stand an destroy him. This is pretty much how it ends up working in red flyover county, too. e: unless the guy pled guilty, then his convictions stands. joat mon fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jul 19, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 16:43 |
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TBeats posted:from Meuller's perspective, does he have a strategy for giving the committee the green light on Jr and Manafort testifying? or is it irrelevant to his case? Irrelevant unless they plead the 5th and Congress grants them immunity to force them to speak. Other than that, the more times you can get them to talk is more chances for them to give a slightly different story, which can be prosecuted as making a false statement.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2017 23:50 |
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TBeats posted:His attorneys are just trying to be well informed of the law!! Like good attorneys. And a president has the right to know all the powers he is afforded!! Nothing to see here orange juche posted:The question though remains, in the eyes of the Supreme Court, is it legal or illegal to pardon yourself as president, and what follow-on effects might occur from such a pardon? Can you be impeached by the Senate for a crime which you pardoned yourself from, seeing as you have judged yourself not guilty? A pardon doesn't mean you're not guilty, just that you've been let off the hook by the grace of the president. One of the Supreme Court cases on pardons made the comment that a pardon "carries [with it] an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession". Whether a president can pardon himself is still an open question. CommieGIR posted:You still have to be convicted to be pardoned, right? e: CommieGIR posted:Its still basically an admission of guilt. joat mon fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 21, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 18:15 |
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Shouldn't I/P stuff go in probation Honeypot thread with cop shooting and gun rights discussions? It's perhaps even more of a 'turn off brain, fling poo' trigger than the others.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 23:45 |
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How bad is it? So bad that this thoroughly red state for whom oil production is practically the sole industry voluntarily shut down the offending injection wells (after a couple years of denials and scientist silencing a large climate change denial) It actually worked, pretty much instantly.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 02:34 |
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BigDave posted:Worse, it makes you a Über-Nazi! But do it ironically in case you get called out for it.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 17:17 |
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tastefully arranged labia posted:Fun fact: having a medical weed card in CA legally makes you a "drug addict" and you will fail the NICS checks when purchasing a firearm. I wonder how that's going to come up when the public dispensaries open next year. It will still be illegal, just as it has been: It shall be unlawful for any person— who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance to ... possess ... any firearm or ammunition. 18 USC 922(g)(3) I wouldn't think public dispensaries would require registration, so that would make it harder for the feds to get the evidence that a person is a marijuana user. Whether it makes any difference will depend on how much effort the feds want to put into it, either on the ATF side or the DEA side.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2017 18:22 |
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not caring here posted:Probably a little. Reported for username/post conflict.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 00:19 |
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Smiling Jack posted:okay can we stop with the video descriptions please I think it's nice, the number of people whose 'worst' is a voluntary, abstracted viewing of something on the internet.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 02:35 |
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Two Finger posted:If Saturday night massacre part two goes through I hope you are proven wrong. If the NYT ruminations that genocide tendencies posted come to pass, there won't be a Saturday Night Massacre. I wonder if the GOP would give enough of a crap about Russia to block a recess appointment.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 05:55 |
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Advocating nihilism to deal with political discord is like advocating suicide to deal with emotional or mental discord. Sure, your body doesn't die, but you and your ilk slowly kill the body politic and leave it bereft of the exact same people it must have in order to improve.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 13:56 |
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Prop Wash posted:Where did this insane poo poo about Ukraine come from? I remember some idiot Fox News story about an ethnic Ukraine DNC dude, but it is hilarious that anyone would try and hold one up to the other An American (an important distinction vis a vis accepting campaign contributions from foreign nationals) from Ukraine. Her name is Chalupa. I think this article from Politico (from January) was the genesis of the Ukraine angle. redneck nazgul posted:It's akin to someone trying to stay in the military to move up to the senior ranks in order to try and correct the institutional failings and poo poo leadership they experience. redneck nazgul posted:You can keep your optimism about changing the system. I want Mueller to rip this government to shreds so that something approaching reform can be passed. Until then, every new story is nothing but entertainment. joat mon fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 25, 2017 |
# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 16:12 |
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That's really good. The next two paragraphs are pretty amazing too, if a bit more niche. The sentiment applies to faith in democratic institutions as well - or perhaps especially, since the impact and effects of those institutions are more concrete and apparent. It's a good start on looking at the existential dread people have about putting faith and energy into imperfect and fallible institutions - but the alternatives are brainless loyalty (The first kind of loyalty) or nihilism. But like the first part said; it's ok to take some time off.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2017 17:54 |
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I've got some questions about whether a Twitter pronouncement is legally binding.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 14:27 |
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I wonder if Mattis has an orange phone dedicated to letting him know immediately what stupid poo poo Trump has done now so he can start trying to unfuck it.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2017 14:36 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Is this the guy that aimed at the feds from a bridge and kept saying poo poo like "do I have a green light?", and I have a shot"? no, this guy is in his 50s.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 14:31 |
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Two Finger posted:I want to be clear here because I just woke up. Are the GOP turning on trump? They're just making sure he won't fire Sessions and appoint Barron as AG while Congress is on vacation.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 21:14 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 22:21 |
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facialimpediment posted:The Mooch: “I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock." It's like Lord of the Flies and Trump is the Conch. I guess Spicey was Piggy? Vasudus posted:It really is a testament to the strength of the government that we're basically putting this poo poo on cruise control and making a sandwich in the back. Will we flip into a ditch? I dunno, we haven't so far!
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2017 22:47 |