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Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

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davidspackage posted:

Monty Python had some jokes with "alright ducky, hello sailor" gay stereotypes, sometimes played by Graham Chapman, who was gay himself. I always wonder if that was ever uncomfortable, or if that was just the way things worked for him.

At the time the show was aired, it would only have been about​ five years since you could be jailed for having gay sex -- so their showing authority figures (especially traditionally conservative ones like judges and policemen, who'd have been the ones doing the jailing and the sentencing) as gay stereotypes would have been pretty transgressive at the time.

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Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

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The difficult bit is climbing the Tory party's internal greasy ladder of treachery and betrayal. Once you've done that, national media falls in line to slobber over your cock and electoral victory is all but given.

Amazingly, this has produced a series of prime ministers skilled at (a) betraying other conservatives and (b) gently caress all else.

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Aug 2, 2009

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I never quite worked out whether the joke was that the machine was mistranslating or that after the same trick worked twice on Earth the Martians just thought it was really funny to keep telling us they came in peace.

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Aug 2, 2009

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John Murdoch posted:

For every 1 thing TNG did that was progressive it did at least 2 things that were godawful and shameful.

Three words: Code of Honor.

If it managed to keep it down to just 2, that puts it some distance ahead of most other mainstream sci-fi.

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Aug 2, 2009

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Elissimpark posted:

Not an issue, for he possessed (and I quote) "an immense orifice whose enormous diameter, odor, and colour bore a closer resemblance to the depths of a well freighted privy than to an rear end in a top hat."

Its disgusting, I know, but the Oxford comma was in the translated text.

What I'm taking away from this is that Kirk Johnson is a timelord.

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Aug 2, 2009

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Sorry folks but there's only one Hobbit adaptation that'll do for me: https://youtu.be/4gzWA4Euzck

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

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Bolingbroke posted:

There's that weird episode of Angel where some of Gunn's (black) friends report there's a glut of police violence going on. After some skepticism, Angel & co. realise that the cops are in fact indiscriminately targeting black people and exhibiting unjust force. This culminates in a cop shooting a (white) guy (Wesley) for no reason at all. Then it's revealed that the violence was because they were dead zombie cops being controlled by an evil cop with a magic statue, which Angel smashes, thus restoring the police force to semi-normalcy. I have no idea what they were trying to say with that episode.

They were trying to do the thing they did in other Buffy EPs where they use a supernatural villain as a metaphor for a real-life issue, but they realised midway through writing it that if cops were possessed en masse by an undying, bloodthirsty spirit of murder their kill rate would probably go down.

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Aug 2, 2009

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Hattie Masters posted:

I was actually going to post about this, how both HIMYM and GoT ended so poorly that they effectively erased themselves from the cultural zeitgeist overnight. Are there any other examples of this? Where it ends and all of a sudden nobody could possibly give a poo poo?

Life On Mars and Ashes to Ashes. Two series that were huge and iconic in the UK, ended around the same time as Lost, and then vanished completely.

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Aug 2, 2009

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Zaroff posted:

Oh it’s better than that - it’s based on a super fan who, during the 80s, was an unpaid continuity advisor on the show, which led to things like a story which drew on plot points from stories over 15 years earlier, some of which were no longer in the BBC archive.

He also was more recently (at the time) vociferous on fan forums, infamously calling Christopher Eccleston ‘lower than a cockroach’ for leaving the series.

He was very much the kind of person who’d call someone out for not being a fan ‘in the right way’.

Didn't he also singlehandedly fund, direct, and act in a direct-to-video episode after the show had been cancelled?



E: I stand corrected, he didn't ever release anything (and the only information available is on Kiwifarms, which is a lovely cesspool of hateful assholes so who knows)

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rodbeard posted:

Every day person is a walking punchline, half the cast seems to only exist as an excuse for jew jokes and the gay characters are so stereotypical I was surprised to find out that the show's creater was gay.

Rich, successful members of an oppressed group often express attitudes that are regressive as gently caress, because doing so makes other rich, successful people more willing to accept them as "one of the good ones".

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Aug 2, 2009

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Iron Crowned posted:

I mean technically the dude that got spikes through his legs wasn't killed by Rambo, but he probably died or at least had to have his legs amputated and probably committed suicide due to being unable to be a cop after that.

so net lives saved then

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Jedit posted:

Ones I still recall are He Jumped From 40,000 Feet, Hitler Only Had One Ball (TTTO Colonel Bogey), and Three German Officers, Mademoiselle From Armentieres and the Fart Song (all TTTO When Johnny Comes Marching Home).

Let's not forget the lyrical chronicling of the many and varied crimes against humanity that took place at the German Nick.

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Jedit posted:

Does that song even exist past the second line? I knew someone who claimed the third line was "And the Nazis play snooker with your balls", but I never heard any more beyond that.

Sure, although like anything in its vein there are a thousand and one variations:


the schoolyard posted:

In the German Nick
Where they hang you by your dick
And they hang dirty posters on the walls
Your mind goes blank
As you're dying for a wank
And the cats play ping-pong with your balls

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Some actually do, and it doesn't really make it better. Jim Jones and Fred Phelps were both actively anti-racist, if only because that got attention.

I think you're confusing "doing one progressive thing" with "being progressive". Regardless of how hard you support oppressed group A, if you poo poo all over oppressed group B in the process then at best you missed the point, at worst you cynically shifted the target of your hatred to whatever was most convenient for you.

c.f. all the rich, gay celebrities who are now enthusiastically pulling up the ladder that trans people laid for them in the 1980s.

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hard counter posted:

when i was in highschool in the early 2000s, zero tolerance for bullying, violence and verbal abuse was a strange new school policy... which indirectly implies a prior policy of some tolerance for those things, presumably a mindset of 'kids gotta harden themselves to the fact that sometimes other people will just be assholes and will indiscriminately level cruelty at you' justified leaving children to the tender mercies of one another w/o intervention, so long as no one was getting seriously injured (physically)

It was new in the sense that without a zero tolerance policy, the policy implicitly becomes "do something as and when the victim asks for help", and the thing about bullying is that it teaches you to believe that you don't deserve to be helped.

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Last Chance posted:

It would have been really expensive to actually film on location in the Matrix though, so it’s understandable that they used another city to stand in for Matrix City.

If it were that expensive how come Reboot managed it for four seasons huh?

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"British comedy has not aged well" should not really be news to anybody, but jesus christ Harry Enfield was a vile little poo poo without the slightest redeeming feature, wasn't he

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i4rgxOi73c

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bitterandtwisted posted:

I don't care much for Little Britain, but I'm fairly sure that Matt loving Lucas isn't telling gays to stay in the closet and be invisible

The Daffyd Thomas sketches read to me a lot more like a (white, cis, male) gay telling the queer community that there's no need to be radical any more because (white, cis, male) gays no longer face discrimination.

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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

Fortunately their newer stuff is still good and doesn't have any lovely stuff in it unless I missed it so I usually just tell people to check that out

Inside Number 9 (is that what you meant by their newer stuff?) has some amazingly good episodes but it also has one where the moral is that if you show the slightest bit of humanity to homeless people they will abuse your generosity and steal your life from you.

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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

in some states of the usa - west coast, for example - "dude" is gender-neutral. in others, it's masculine. regional american english surprises

People keep arguing this and yet if I say I'm going to the bar to try and score with some dudes...

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lemonadesweetheart posted:

Twoflower was as a stereotypical american tourist.

Twoflower was a manic pixie dream girl.

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A bit of an unusual twist this one: media that's aged poorly not because society moved forward, but because context got lost.

When Oswald Moseley, the leader of the British Union of Fascists and all-round openly-Nazi shitbag died, a lot of British newspapers went all :decorum: with their obituaries, quietly brushing his past under the carpet.

Satirical TV show Not The Nine O'Clock News weren't willing to let people forget that the dead man the newspapers were all gushing about was a Nazi, so they did this:

https://youtu.be/LPCZvYu0QBA

But without the context that this was what was going on at the time, (and with nazis being a thing that actual politicians are going to bat for again) it doesn't read all that well.

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Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

yes, its still parody even if it isn't spelled out with a big blinking sign reading SATIRE

furthermore, it's not diahorrea, I'm making a clever parody of people who poo poo their pants

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Megillah Gorilla posted:

Lexx was not a good show, but it was a great show.

Lexx was trash, but it was unpredictable trash that 100% unironically believed in what it was trying to do, even when what it was trying to do was incredibly stupid. For that, at least, it's incredibly refreshing as a piece of media.

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Was there any complaints or protests about Lord of the Rings? Kind of a funny once there since you've got dwarves and hobbits who are both little people of different kinds.

I'm not little myself so I'm more than willing to be corrected here -- but it feels like neither dwarves nor hobbits were particularly othered in that. Especially where in Fellowship there are a bunch of shots from the hobbits' POV making them feel like the normal and the default and the rest of the world feel large and looming and exotic and alien. That feels very at odds with something like Snow White where it's the small characters who exist to be weird and fantastical and different in comparison to a tall protagonist.

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A far more sensible reason is that once the ring is in Mount Doom, the Nazgul are busy clearing out their desks and not patrolling the skies on Fell Beasts searching for tasty eagles.

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South park is the single counterexample to "the show was better before it got political" being a dogwhistle.

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Guess we found the Torquemada rereg

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RenegadeStyle1 posted:

Has anyone ever had a bigger fall in public opinion than Bill Murray? I remember when I first got on the internet all of the talk surrounding Bill Murray is he was a good trickster or a manic pixie dream guy. Running around leaving candy in your pocket then whispering in your ear that you're a great person. Now everything I see about him makes it seems like he's a huge dick.

I mean there's Rowling

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