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Majorian posted:Exactly. And the fact that so many Democrats are apparently unable to disaggregate these two things is pretty discouraging. They don't want to.
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Oct 2, 2017 06:36
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What the hell is trotskyism anyway?
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Oct 4, 2017 14:27
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh this nonsense again She didn't own them, they came with the house.
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Oct 5, 2017 13:08
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Nevvy Z posted:God forbid we give prisoners valuable work experience while they pay their debt to society. It's just as well that the justice system can be trusted to be fair and proportionate, especially involving the most vulnerable members of society and historically oppressed minorities.
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Oct 5, 2017 13:41
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Prison labour is expanding to call centres, last I checked. It's literally a replacement for outsourcing; labour you can legally pay literal slave wages for! Nah, best to treat it all as slavery, because that's what it's supposed to be. Reconstruction saw freed slaves arrested and put back to work on the same plantations they were slaves on.
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Oct 5, 2017 16:35
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VitalSigns posted:That's not really relevant to the leftists today who say we need to get back the LBJ's Great Society. I am reminded how a lot of minority people in TGRS and elsewhere are skeptical of leftist ideas compared to the Great Society and/or New Deal given those programs were carefully crafted to exclude minorities. Historical context means different things to different people, and you have to keep that in mind with communicating. Though people looking for a reason to oppose the real core of what you're proposing will find a way no matter what you do.
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Oct 7, 2017 11:46
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Isn't a big issue that the US spends more than enough money on social programs to be basically socialist but because so much of it goes to deliberate waste, graft and corporate welfare they get even less returns?
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Oct 11, 2017 12:03
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Grapplejack posted:What is fishhook theory? Is that like horseshoe theory or whatever? Basically that people committed to centrism for its own sake end up empowering fascists.
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Oct 18, 2017 16:32
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Reparations just seem like something where the capitalist classes would be scheming ways to steal every cent as soon as politicians even start seriously talking about it, with the police just being the most blatant about it. We've seen in the financial crisis that predatory capitalists (IE, most of them) disproportionately target minorities. Probably could be done right, but you'd need to at the very least reign in the police and the finance industry to have any lasting effect. Though I may be cynical on this; I keep thinking of the treatment of Aboriginal Australians, where the government generally does absolutely everything wrong on every level and then demonises them for accepting the welfare they do get. An organisation not acting in good faith will pervert the best intentions into a nightmare hellworld out of spite and greed.
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Oct 19, 2017 06:28
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Just saying, much like Obamacare vs universal health care, it's something you want to make sure is done right rather than letting a government push through a half-assed unsustainable or compromised-to-death version and declare victory forever. As much as people bitch about how supposedly people pushing economic justice and social justice are irreconcilably in conflict, it seems whenever there's actual dialogue and some sharing of mutual interests (IE, bitching about/arguing with centrists who are insincere about both) it turns out there's extremely little if any real conflict even about methods, and even little about priorities. But then again, there's been a concerted effort by business interests, white supremacists (including literally the Klan) and conservatives to keep them apart, that's been very successful until now.
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Oct 19, 2017 07:23
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The invisible hand of the free market is my imaginary friend.
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Oct 20, 2017 17:25
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So much loving grift they sabotaged their own campaign. Imagine if Hillary actually got into power.
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Nov 2, 2017 17:40
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More like the blunderdome
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Nov 16, 2017 12:24
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Zas posted:yeah but its the powerful dems in DC who are the ones that self described radical feminists will go to bat for. as has been brought up a lot lately, see: gloria steinem and bill clinton in the 90s It seems like feminism got absolutely chewed up and spat out by capitalism. Or maybe just white feminism.
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Nov 19, 2017 09:09
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A bit rich coming from the liberals who are convinced that leftists are just eagerly waiting for the moment to throw women and minorities under the bus. (at least in theory, anyway) The point is that hypocrisy is killing the Democrats, they can't afford any more.
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Nov 20, 2017 04:00
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Katt posted:
I miss Blingee.
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Nov 22, 2017 09:30
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If you said last year that a major party is facing collapse of its establishment figures because of a massive amount of sex scandals and tone-deaf responses to them...
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Nov 26, 2017 18:13
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'The patriarchy' really has become an utterly meaningless term. If it can't refer to powerful, wealthy politicians with a history of abusing women without recourse, what the hell DOES it mean?
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Nov 27, 2017 08:27
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We're very much into 'damned with faint praise' territory here.
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Dec 14, 2017 06:32
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As I've said, Obama's legacy is ultimately going to be lucky if he makes it into the future version of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnN_JoIBkzw
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Dec 14, 2017 14:58
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Remember when that meant that a man with a wife and three kids would have to stay in a well compensated, unionised 9-5 weekday job until retirement?
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Dec 14, 2017 16:20
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What about a man who can scream like a dog
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Dec 15, 2017 10:42
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Obama might have well as instituted Full Communism, it wouldn't have made Republicans any less mad. Republicans hating Democrats doesn't mean anything any more. The Democrats refuse to learn this.
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Dec 17, 2017 18:05
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How can inequality be real when capitalism don't real
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Dec 21, 2017 06:57
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Lightning Knight posted:There is no ethical consumption in Candy Land, where candy communism is mandatory. This is why Princess Bubblegum lost the election. (that was kinda oddly prescient for 2016; she believed she was the rightful ruler and had no real need to campaign, and was completely taken by surprise when a populace fed up with the status quo and feeling disrespected either stayed home or voted for an obvious con man instead)
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Dec 21, 2017 07:22
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Most vocal capitalism proponents don't understand capitalism at all.
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Dec 21, 2017 15:57
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I always knew Zizek was a goon.
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Jan 5, 2018 12:22
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steinrokkan posted:As a rule of thumb goons rate food based on how much of it they can shove down their gullets in as little time as possible, so disliking French food comes as no surprise. They will spend pages arguing about it, though, in literally any thread.
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Jan 12, 2018 14:20
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Oh, no, bougie undercurrents, let's have a self-criticism session to purge that crimethink out. It's called a struggle session, comrade
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Jan 13, 2018 02:53
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If anything, it's far more offensive how he's been whitewashed as a liberal figure of meek platitudes.
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Jan 16, 2018 07:04
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The Democrats need to realise; no one actually likes them, they're hated, they're disrespected, and they're covered in poo poo. They aren't entitled to anything but acting like they own the world.
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Jan 22, 2018 04:54
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Two autists enter, and never, ever leave.
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Feb 14, 2018 08:14
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Majorian posted:LMF evidently never saw my throwdown with fishmech in the Eastern Europe thread. And I thought Chernobyl was a disaster.
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Feb 14, 2018 09:51
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Why do the clintons have to keep stealing from the till
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Feb 14, 2018 12:21
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VitalSigns posted:Jokes aside, the most charitable thing you can say about pro-Franken-for-Senate arguments is that they seem to be based on this erroneous assumption that qualified senators are some scarce resource that are on the verge of running out instead of there being plenty of people out there who can do the job just as well but aren't creepy-creep sexmonsters while doing it. Hint: It's because they want to support their aristocracy.
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Feb 27, 2018 22:44
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Also, China is looking at becoming an uninhabitable polluted wasteland, to the point where it can no longer produce enough food to feed itself and is dependent on imports!
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Mar 10, 2018 01:56
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Ya'll should invest in a (((Dishonest Ghouls))) gang tag so we can keep track of you Can we be Dean Domino?
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Mar 11, 2018 01:58
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As I mentioned in C-SPAM, the Republicans had been preparing for Clinton's run for 16 years minimum, and the demographic that Clinton hung her entire strategy on- 'moderate' suburban white conservatives- was one that had been very specifically taught by conservative media to despise her specifically.
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Jun 28, 2018 13:18
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This isn't even the sexism, Republicans have been trained to specifically hate Hilary Clinton for decades, and she hung her strategy specifically on those people voting for her.
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Jun 29, 2018 04:46
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