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gently caress. I will not watch that trailer. I will not watch that trailer.
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Phobeste posted:Why not Because: Munkaboo posted:Yup, that had a lot of spoilery poo poo. Davros1 posted:Ugh. TheBuilder posted:Rian was right, it was full of spoilers So far I've only seen a behind the scenes sizzle and the first teaser. I want to go in absolutely clean in December. I spoiled myself silly for The Force Awakens in comparison.
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Oct 10, 2017 03:07
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My brother, whom I trust, told me there really wasn't anything too spoilery in the trailer and told me to not be a bitch and just watch it. I gave in on his word, and he was right. Nothing I hadn't speculated on already. Only gonna watch it that one time though, but yeah, consider me 
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Oct 10, 2017 07:43
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Vintersorg posted:The Phantom Menace begins the scenes is one of the best special features on DVD. You can watch it for free on the SW Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da8s9m4zEpo
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Oct 26, 2017 16:25
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The MSJ posted:Also, you know who should direct a Star Wars? Yes please.
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Nov 1, 2017 15:40
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jivjov posted:I️ hope it is temporally distant from the Saga as we know it. Either far past or distant future. Yeah this. I want something entirely original and unexplored.
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Nov 9, 2017 23:47
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teagone posted:Yeah this. I want something entirely original and unexplored. Oh wait, the press release straight up says this lmao. quote:As writer-director of The Last Jedi, Johnson conceived and realized a powerful film of which Lucasfilm and Disney are immensely proud. In shepherding this new trilogy, which is separate from the episodic Skywalker saga, Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored. This rules out Old Republic content yeah?
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Nov 9, 2017 23:51
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This actually became one of my bigger gripes after seeing AOTC when it came out lmao. I didn't expect Hayden's voice to be so soft sounding. It's a trivial complaint sure, but I kept telling all my friends back then how much better Heath Ledger would have been as Anakin instead because he had a more booming voice. A Knight's Tale also came out like a year before AOTC and I loving loved that movie in high school too 
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Nov 13, 2017 22:31
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homullus posted:Anakin's voice was already canonically not-booming as of RotJ That's old-man Anakin's voice we heard. I personally just never expected the guy who would eventually become Vader to sound like Hayden. I was expecting someone with a rugged, deep voice.
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Nov 14, 2017 02:40
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Hansen85 posted:Carrie Fisher's post-ROTJ voice aside, the father of Luke and Leia was never gonna have a rugged , deep voice. Why not?
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Nov 14, 2017 03:37
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Has nothing to do with the character "being cool." George was always going to write Anakin the way he ended up in AOTC and ROTS. I didn't think Hayden was the right actor for the role, and his voice was part of the reason. Anakin could have had a deeper voice and still be a whiny brat. Heath Ledger could have pulled that off easily. [edit] Although, appearance wise, I do recall in interviews that George did want young Anakin to have kind of a James Dean look about him. Hayden definitely fit that part, but Heath was just as hearthrob-y back then too 
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Nov 14, 2017 04:10
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The MSJ posted:Han Solo from EA's Battlefront 2 Lmao, that is amazing.
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Nov 15, 2017 00:50
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Just got back. My initial impressions out the theater were positive. Lots of great moments in this movie that had me all in and will be memorable for sure. Especially with Luke. I loved how it pushed and pulled me in and out of various emotional states. Fuckin' when Artoo put up Leia's "Help me Obi-Wan" speech, I had a lump in my throat. And Leia's "death" turning me into a little bitch, only to bring me back up with her using The Force to survive like what the gently caress movie, you're tearing me a part but I love that you're doing that! Like when Snoke went out like a bitch, yes movie, I like that subversion. There were a lot of moments like that. Overall, I can say I liked it better than The Force Awakens, and I loved that movie. I liked where they went with Kylo's character, but felt they could have done a bit more with Rey. I'm satisfied with how they developed those two characters in the overarching story though. I don't feel this film needed to be as long as it was. The movie really didn't get going for me until Yoda showed up, which up until that point I was like "yeah this is alright" but nothing really grabbed me in the way The Force Awakens did right from the get go. I just wanted the story to get moving. Seeing Yoda perked me the gently caress up and I was fully engaged. Almost everything after the conversation between Yoda and Luke... yeah, that was some really good Star Wars for me. But! I wasn't really feeling how jokey jokey the movie was either, especially the bit in the beginning with Poe and Hux which I think set the tone for me; I just didn't click with a lot of the humor, like BB-8 using the casino coins as a machine gun and blowing out the barrel. Minor gripes, but they add up because there's a lot of those. I didn't really enjoy Finn's thrust through the story all that much. Just didn't feel like the character was treated the same way he was in TFA. And man, that groan inducing dialogue between him and Phasma at the end was the worst. "Chrome dome" and "Rebel Scum" had me laughing, in a bad way. I did really like Rose's character though! All her story beats were good. I can see why a lot of people might not dig this episode, but for me it was great. Dope as gently caress ending too. Couple people in my group missed the little kid grabbing the broom with The Force. Think the dude next to me did too. Too bad, that was a great final "oh poo poo" for me to cap off the film. teagone fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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Dec 16, 2017 10:28
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Also, I will say in the same vein that TFA covered a lot of ANH, I found the moments that reflected TESB and ROTJ in this film were good, even if contrived. I'm a sucker, I know. [edit] vvv I didn't think Finn or Poe had good, developing storylines in the film. teagone fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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Dec 16, 2017 10:36
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Sombrerotron posted:I really have to watch it a second time I guess, because I'm struggling to come up with a single moment watching TLJ that I was genuinely emotionally stirred, whereas I had a very different experience seeing TFA. Somehow it all felt forced (ho ho) and insincere to me this time round. Most of the genuinely affecting bits on my end were fueled by nostalgia. Luke and R2's reunion on screen had a profound effect on me, as mentioned with R2 playing back Leia's old message. Also Yoda's return, which came unexpectedly. That threw me for a loop, especially when he starts dropping wisdom bombs.
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Dec 16, 2017 16:32
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UmOk posted:I don't think you get Star Wars. I was half expecting Rey to lift the X-Wing out of the water as part of her training, but then Luke went all like "the Force isn't just about lifting things" and I was like yeah, that's good poo poo Luke. I like this movie.
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Dec 16, 2017 17:27
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Tenzarin posted:If Luke was just a hologram how did the dice he gave to Leia have any form to give her? When Kylo enters the base, he picks up the dice and you see it fade away in his hands.
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Dec 17, 2017 02:36
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Waffles Inc. posted:The movie shows us that Poe is an incredibly talented pilot whose attack on the dreadnaught is successful insofar as it stops the resistance fleet from being killed. But the movie also shows us that while Poe is a badass and talented pilot, his actions are reckless and come at a great cost. The film is pretty explicit about that. Worse is when you realize his insubordination is directly responsible for the deaths of likely hundreds of resistance fighters. Had he not given Finn and Rose the go ahead to find Maz's codebreaker on Canto Bight, the transports carrying the remaining resistance forces retreating to Crait wouldn't have been detected by the First Order's auto gently caress-off canons because Benecio del Toro would have never given up any info in the first place. Poe is cool, but he's a hot-headed maverick that makes bad choices in TLJ several times over. Unless I'm remembering that wrong.
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Dec 18, 2017 00:39
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trash person posted:but based on your post one of the things i'm potentially most excited about for episode IX is Rey building herself a lightsaber please let this happen Seeing as how we saw the exposed kyber crystal from Anakin's now broken saber, I'm hoping she fashions it to her staff and makes a saber similar to Maul's 
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Dec 18, 2017 00:45
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Saw this on my twitter timeline. Thought it was a nice catch. https://twitter.com/kyleauxren/status/942516563730722817
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Dec 18, 2017 01:48
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Don't think it existed or had been manufactured yet. Just the theoretical schematics for it maybe. Look at how long it took the Death Star to be built; its plans originated during the Clone Wars.
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Dec 18, 2017 01:59
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euphronius posted:Yeah I'm glad I wasn't spoiled for that part. Amazing . A good chunk of the audience I was with were clapping and hollering when Luke did the brush off motion after all the AT-AT blasts and then when it was revealed he was projecting a Force hologram the whole time the theater went loving nuts. It was an awesome experience. Definitely will remember that.
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Dec 18, 2017 02:22
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cargohills posted:I'm sorry but she's right. My group went to a 10:40PM showing on Friday night. I personally enjoy it when the audience vocally reacts to moments in a film that are meant to invoke feelings of over excitement. That's part of the reason why I like to see highly anticipated tentpole movies on opening night. It's an experience. I can go watch the film for $5 on Tuesday matinee for a more quiet screening. I go on opening night because hype levels are going nuclear and to revel in the atmosphere.
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Dec 18, 2017 02:58
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hiddenriverninja posted:Question: Am I mistaken, or was there footage of Rey running with a lightsaber on salt planet that wasn't in the film? You're not. That was in the first teaser, but not in the film. Not really a spoiler since it was in the teaser. Timestamped it below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4I68XVPzQ&t=87s
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Dec 18, 2017 05:01
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viral spiral posted:Thank god it's not a remake of ESB like TFA was of ANH. TLJ is a remix of ESB and ROTJ.
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Dec 18, 2017 07:27
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In retrospect I thought it would have been powerful if maybe in the exchange between Holdo and Leia where its explained someone has to stay behind as the transports make their way to Crait, Leia overrules Holdo and tells her to get on the transport. Think it was a missed opportunity to have Leia be the one to do the lightspeed kamikaze. How badass would that have been as a send off for Carrie with Leia going out like a mother loving boss. Could have been a good parallel scene too, where the moment the light speed ramming and explosion happens, the film could cut to Luke having the same reaction Obi-Wan did when Alderaan was destroyed. But if that were the case, then we wouldn't have gotten the scene with force projected Luke and Leia in the base on Crait so I'm ok with the way it happened. teagone fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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Dec 19, 2017 05:02
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business hammocks posted:Why did they call them laser swords in this one? Is there a no-saying-zombie-in-a-zombie-movie rule in effect? Anakin called lightsabers laser swords in TPM.
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Dec 19, 2017 14:09
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Does anyone remember if the exposed kyber crystal in Anakin's lightsaber was split in two? Or was it just the hilt?
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Dec 19, 2017 20:23
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euphronius posted:Appeared to be intact. drat. Still holding out Rey fashions together a double bladed blue lightsaber in episode 9.
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Dec 19, 2017 20:30
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Jewmanji posted:Yes, that makes sense from Kylo's perspective. It's an adolescent perspective. But why would Rey want Ben's training? She defeated him and demonstrated that she is already more adept than he is, and now she's palling around with his former master. So far as she's concerned, Ben doesn't really have anything to teach her. It strains credulity to imagine that she'd put aside all the hosed up stuff he's done to her and her friends for the sake maybe levelling up. And you're correct that it's meant to echo ROTJ, but it's ESB and ROTJ both, so the message gets totally muddled. The training was never a priority for Rey. She believed that she could save Ben and in doing so would turn the tide against the First Order. She implores Luke to join her because the resistance needs him in the war effort but he refuses. Rey figures since Luke won't help the resistance, maybe Ben can. Her goal wasn't to receive training, it was recruitment. The film makes you think Rey accomplished her mission when Ben kills Snoke, and brilliantly embellishes this "holy poo poo, Ben's a good guy now!" scenario with the ensuing brawl against the guards, but then the film subverts that notion by revealing Snoke was a red herring, and it's actually Ben who is the real big baddie of the franchise.
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Dec 20, 2017 03:54
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Cnut the Great posted:TLJ's take on Luke isn't the genius, virtuoso move by an iconoclast visionary that people are making it out to be. It's just Rian Johnson trying to make the best of the poorly thought-out status quo he was given. Maybe they should have spent less time tearing down Luke just so they could build him back up to his ROTJ self again, and more time building a strong arc for Rey, who still doesn't really have one. While I agree Rey could have been given more of a developmental arc in TLJ, I thought grumpy iconoclast Luke was great. Even better so is the reveal of how Ben managed to shake up his ethos. I really loved how the film presented Luke having this fleeting moment of Skywalker weakness, realizing that he had the power to wipe out the darkness he sensed in Ben from the universe forever. Really felt that was a great challenge to his character; the dark path is the quicker, easier, more seductive solution but Luke managed to rise above that, naturally. He was never going to just murder his nephew, but the fact that there even was a thought like that I felt was a good and interesting expansion of the character that justifies his change in worldview. How this action tragically hosed with Ben's worldview as a consequence and shaped Kylo Ren made for a really satisfying confrontation between the two on Crait. quote:The moment Ben "turned" I immediately knew exactly what was going to happen afterward Good for you! I was too caught up in the moment of how great that throne room brawl was that the film really had me thinking Ben actually came back to the light. Imagine my excitement when that's not what happened because I lacked the foresight to see it.
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Cnut the Great posted:I'm just pointing out that if the man who embodies the character of Luke Skywalker more than anyone else (aside from George Lucas) can have these feelings, then maybe it isn't so petty and ridiculous for some fans to feel a similar way. While that may be the case elsewhere online, I don't think anyone here seriously thinks that. I'm no stranger to this sort of argument either; I loved what Snyder's Man of Steel did to The Superman. I personally loved how TLJ deconstructed Luke. You and Mark Hamill might not have, but I was super into it.
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Dec 21, 2017 00:38
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Tender Bender posted:I think it's interesting how some people seem to regard choices in the movie as a personal insult directed at them. Fandom.
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Dec 21, 2017 00:45
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Yaws posted:Luke Skywalker standing over his sleeping nephew and seriously contemplating killing him. Brilliant. Luke was never actually going to go through with the action. The temptation was there like all things having to do with the dark side, sure, but he fought against it despite knowing full well there was no more light left in Ben. Luke knew before everyone else that there was so much darkness in Ben, and that he had the power right then and there to destroy that darkness. But he wouldn't do it. He couldn't. It was merely a fleeting moment of the weakness that all Skywalkers shared, and he overcame that but tragically it solidified Ben's descent into Kylo Ren. I loved all the perspectives of that particular scene.
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Dec 21, 2017 00:58
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Yaws posted:Why would he even consider it though? He's been through this before. He successfully turned someone far more gone than teenaged Ben Solo. Did he forget? His massive failure got his friend killed and a new Empire to spring up. Kylo is completely justified in wanting Luke dead. That momentary lapse in judgement is an instinctual trait he and his father shared. From what we're shown in the films, the Skywalker bloodline is highly susceptible to the temptations of the dark side. Anakin, Luke, and now Ben have all had their dabbles. But you're wrong about Ben. The difference is Luke was able to sense the conflict in Anakin, but he only sensed the darkness in Ben; the kid clearly is a different kind of beast. Despite knowing full well Snoke had already taken Ben's heart completely, Luke had the resolve to not strike down his only nephew. It's a testament to everything he stands for, and is reminiscent of his stance against the emperor in ROTJ. The action unfortunately had tragic consequences that ultimately left Luke jaded and sent Ben into a murderous rampage. Luke's whole arc in TLJ is coming back to accept what had happened and realize that he can't save Ben, but also realizing that's ok. I mean poo poo, even Leia admits to knowing Ben has gone full dark side completely.
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Tenzarin posted:Can we stop [spoiler]ing this movie? It would be alot easier to read what you people say if this thread didn't look like a classified document. People still gettin' probated bruh. You can also just click the blacked out text and it'll stay unspoilered you lazy gently caress.
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Jewmanji posted:Nah more like your nephew wakes up and sees you pointing a gun at his face. Ok, but what if you were able to sense and clearly see that your nephew would shoot up an elementary school.
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Dec 21, 2017 02:04
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Yaws posted:Luke already learned this lesson decades ago. It was the whole point of his character. The whole point of the OT. Luke WASN'T his dad. He rejected that. He chose death twice when tempted to turn. But no, now he's tempted to kill his teenage nephew in his sleep. Yeah, sure, Luke rejected the dark side unlike his father, but there were clear moments in ROTJ where his anger and fury were surfacing. He was able to overcome the temptation, and does so AGAIN years later when he sensed Ben was a black hole of dark side power. I don't see what the problem is. You're also ignoring that Luke clearly sensed no good would come from Ben's training, and that Ben had already given into the darkness completely. Again, it was a Skywalker-y moment of weakness on Luke's part. I don't see how that makes him to be a gutless coward. It makes him human. The great thing about that humanizing conflict is during the crux of his arc in TLJ, Luke ascends and becomes a mythic legend in contrast.
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Tenzarin posted:Maybe you should have paid more attention. "I saw darkness. I sensed it building in him. I'd seen it in moments during his training. But then I looked inside... and it was beyond what I ever imagined. Snoke had already turned his heart. He would bring destruction, and pain, and death, and the end of everything I love because of what he will become! And for the briefest moment, in pure instinct, I thought I could stop it! It passed, like a fleeting shadow. And I was left with shame... and with consequence. And the last thing I saw, were the eyes of a frightened boy whose master had failed him." -Luke
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Roth posted:I'm not sure I really get what people don't like about it so much, or anything else involving Finn and Rose's subplot. It's a weird tangential thrust in the narrative that doesn't really go anywhere.
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