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E:already posted in Eastern Europe thread, ignore
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2019 17:45 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 06:17 |
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Kurnugia posted:i mean, the argument about exactly why assad is a really big bastard has been topic of intense and intensely boring debate in this thread on avarege about 20 billion times per second for the past 10 years, and during that time the question of "so loving what if he is" has been answered only by the very braeve members of the something genocidally awful john bolton fan club. you know, the guys who think that iraq was a bit of a fuckup but only because we didn't kill enough people from the getgo to terrorise the populace into submission Where in this thread is the John Bolton Fan Club located, exactly? Because I've yet to see anything remotely like that. "There's no point in discussing how murderous murderous dictators are/were" is a hell of a take.
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# ¿ May 29, 2019 17:26 |
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I must have been reading too much 19th century Russian history lately because I half expected Russia to suddenly shout "ONWARD TO TSARGRAD" at one point over the past few days.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2019 22:21 |
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Vasukhani posted:What makes you think the Russians and Turks are enemies in this? I didn't, it was more that the whole thing is so hosed I can almost half imagine that happening. And like I said, I've been up to my eyeballs in 16th-19th century Russian history lately, so it rubbed off.
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 02:32 |
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Orange Devil posted:According to the Russians the Israelis use civilian airliners as cover to carry out air strikes on the regular. And we should believe anything the Russians say why, exactly.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2020 17:20 |
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Al-Saqr posted:I don’t know if you guys caught this, but a gigantic deal is being inked out between china and Iran that will basically give Iran a permanent economic lifeline in exchange for being and Economic/Military Protectorate of China. Well I guess that means they won't need to roll out pretend fighter jets in an effort to "scare us" anymore. China has supplied the IRIAF on a limited basis before, mind.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 23:02 |
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Randarkman posted:As far as I know this is a myth. Alot of stuff that is exported (by any country) is often equipment that is being phased out or otherwise older patterns, but it is not deliberately produced lovely and produced solely for export. In the Soviets case this was somewhat true. They weren't deliberately produced poorly, no, but they were often downgraded in terms of equipment fit compared to what was built for the home market.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2021 03:49 |
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V. Illych L. posted:this is an explanation which only serves to further complicate the motivations here without accounting for any of the observations in question Can you demonstrate that the discount taliban actually have any interest in what's happening in Gaza, other than claiming they do
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2024 00:15 |
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Nonsense posted:You insult them and they've thrown every invader out on their rear end. Do not underestimate them, the United States obviously has until now allowed vital shipping lanes to fall victim to them. The Biden administration has expanded this Gaza conflict, a terrible decision for the region. I will call batshit crazy fundamentalist denizens of the loony bin whatever I drat well want to, thanks. Calling them what they are is not the same as underestimating them. And frankly, I don't think any nation, in any era would look kindly upon some random group of fanatics lobbing missiles at passing ships, regardless of the stated reason.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 00:07 |
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V. Illych L. posted:my position is that this spectrum of postures is functionally the same posture. if the organisation's political base and backing is premised on it supporting palestine - and as far as i can tell it is at least in part - then it doesn't matter if the politburo members in their hearts care about palestine at all. in practice, the organisation is sincerely pro-palestine. if the americans brought israel to heel, i think that the houthis would bang their chests and claim at least partial credit regardless of their actual assessment of the situation, and cease their blockade. whether this is because they sincerely believe in this stuff or because they've lost their political cover is not really relevant imo. they have tied their attacks on shipping explicitly to palestine, so it would be a hard sell to back down without some movement on the palestinian issue. if they get their stated demand, it's hard to keep provoking the americans for no obvious reason. this is similar to any other organisation exerting power. Their "political base" is that they have the most guns with which to threaten the population into submission.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2024 01:27 |
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V. Illych L. posted:so you think the timing of prosperity guardian is completely random, then, or what? What would the alternative explanation be
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# ¿ Jan 17, 2024 00:16 |
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adebisi lives posted:If that were true the US wouldn't be bombing them. And your basis for this assertion is what, exactly.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2024 21:52 |
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adebisi lives posted:The Biden administration has demonstrated it is willing to let a regional conflict spin out of control rather than condemn Israel and cease aiding the genocide. The Houthis are enacting a blockade to combat the genocide and the US bombing of Yemen is an escalation to the conflict where Biden is doubling down on support of Israel. I'm not taking it for granted that Biden would be willing to indefinitely bomb Yemen unless the blockade is threatening Israel's ability to keep murdering Arabs.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2024 05:17 |
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Esran posted:But it sounds like you're saying the Houthis are really terrible at for-profit piracy, because they're not managing to actually capture ships this way, So the lives of sailors in this region have less value to you, is what you're saying.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 02:00 |
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Esran posted:This post is transparent trolling. The Houthis are firing heavy weaponry at any ship that happens to pass by. The fact that they have failed to hurt anyone thus far doesn't change the fact that they're doing the same thing you are accusing the IDF of doing, and yet somehow it's acceptable because they're too much of a Keystone Kops force to actually hit anything? If human life is precious, then it is precious, regardless of who and where it is, and any kind of violence against it should (in any internally consistent ideology) be considered abhorrent. But you are suggesting that it is acceptable to menace the lives of random sailors because a bunch of religious fundamentalists claim that they're doing it to save people in Gaza. Instead of, I dunno, trying to send actual aid to people in Gaza, or assist in negotiations that might equally assist those people in a meaningful way. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Feb 20, 2024 |
# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 17:19 |
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Esran posted:This is very cute, but someone who actually believed this would focus on the much greater crime of the genocide which has actually resulted in more than 25000 deaths and which is still going on right now, and not spend all their time wringing their hands about the death of a sailor that might occur at some point in the future, if bad luck strikes. So you won't trust criticism of one side unless that person also explicitly criticises the other side. Which is not generally a thing people do in discussions about one subject, because it's, you know, irrelevant to the topic at hand. The fact that I criticize the Houthis is not related to whatever my opinions may or may not be on Israel, believe it or not. You may as well condemn me if I criticise Stalin and fail to say that Nazis are bad. E:and if I recall, the criticism of those Allied bombing operations frequently comes from the political left, weirdly enough. Imagine that.
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2024 18:06 |
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mawarannahr posted:
And these relate to stopping Israel's actions in Gaza how precisely? Never mind that it ignores the very real issues raised regarding food supplies in Northeast Africa? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Feb 22, 2024 19:15 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 06:17 |
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E:forget it
Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Mar 7, 2024 |
# ¿ Mar 7, 2024 00:37 |