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Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Peopledon'tvotegreens.Gif

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Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

I'm going to take the pessimistic view and say Turnbull will not only last until the election but will win.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

is she going for slutty geisha or Marie Antoinette?
:catstare:
Stop focusing on women's attire to detract from what women say and do.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Gay marriage yet?

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

It was electric there at parliament.

Shook Shortens hand, said thank you so very much.

there were several proposals outside the House, tons of people.
Two sad grumps on the left.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Cleretic posted:

Good news, they can now be sad grumps together.

apologies, four

Four people voting NO: LNP QLD David Littleproud, Liberal Russell Broadbent VIC, LNP Keith Pitt QLD and Bob Katter QLD.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

ewe2 posted:

Morrison abstained. The abstainers:

Tony Abbott

Kevin Andrews

Scott Morrison

Barnaby Joyce.

What a gutless bunch of sooks.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

GoldStandardConure posted:

Why not Adam Bandts?

it was pretty crowded, thorpe and magda were in the middle singing. Saw Tanya, didnt see Bandt.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009


this isnt satire? So the rumors were true. I shouldnt be laughing but...

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

thatbastardken posted:

tbf adam is v. small

I was on the lookout for a sweet rainbow tie but there was just so much going on. press were everywhere with phones and lights, i joined in some exultation with some people before noticing the sky news dude next to me recording. I took off my lanyard and he said 'cool, soundbite'.
People were proposing to one another, crying, cheering, interviewing. Some guy from the RiotACT was talking to anyone he could with the energy of a kids entertainer.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Kafka Syrup posted:

Just tweeted this: https://twitter.com/TimNichollsMP/status/938924645130035200

place ya bets on new leader. good money's on a battle between Frecklington (who'll lose because sexism), Crisafulli (who'll lose because he's a moderate) and Mander (who'll win because football and usher in a new era of LNP christofascism for Queensland)

edit: scratch that, Frecklington has convinced Mander to run on a joint ticket. Frecklington as OL and Mander as Deputy. I doubt anyone will challenge that arrangement.


how compact and totally not a building and rental standards violation.

Well that was tidy

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

https://mobile.twitter.com/rupertmu...35%2Fframe.html

https://mobile.twitter.com/meakoopa...35%2Fframe.html

So it is.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-fires-la-latest-updates-rupert-murdoch-bel-air-vineyard-blaze-path-a8096941.html

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009


Eh

BBJoey posted:

how is it a personal attack to point out that people are utterly incompetent

Update.

Statements of fact are not personal affronts.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Skellybones posted:

The gameplay loop is just the USA dropping supplies which the GLA pick up.

Thank you for the new shoes.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Synthbuttrange posted:

Larf the Coalition are already attacking AGL over Liddel shutting down.

AGL is retorting that keeping Liddell open would raise the price of electricity.

Also, Crimson Rosella. BOTY.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Because it's really useful

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

gay picnic defence posted:

I can't help reading between the lines here that they really don't want a bunch of boomers panic selling at the first hint of a downturn

“Stacking Up Bricks”

Mate, I’m a brickie, like my flash ute?
V8 and jet black it’s real fucken beaut
I’m 26, three IPs and a house
Investing’s a doddle it’s just bloody grouse
Bought a new joint right off the plan
Saved on stamp duty I am so the man!
It’s interest only, yeah lock that right in
Leverage up go harder to win
Equity mate! Growth’s what you use
Forget about yields, that’s why you lose
The property game it’s money for jam
Five percent down, I’m rich, yes I am

Told my boss I was quitting to do my own thing
Hell, it’s so easy, put a few renos in
Just six months later I’ve bought myself nine
But my fixerups aren’t quite running on time
Bloody drat tradies those cunts are so lazy
Turn up on schedule? Are you fucken crazy?
My costs they are jumping but no need to worry
House prices are rising in a hell of a hurry
The bank, they just called, want a meeting next week
I’m borrowing more, I’ll own half the drat street!
My banker and me we’re real best of chums
I let him handle all those tiresome sums
He does the numbers, I take him out drinking
Then to a strip show to see something winking
Last time around he approved my 9th flat
Relationship management, easy as that

I got a twin brother, he’s got two degrees
Still paying off HECS he lives on his knees
Been telling me “bro, it’s a ridiculous bubble”
Dopey dumb oval office there’s no bloody trouble
To prove I was smarter and show him who’s right
We zipped off to Bali late that same night
Used up my offset, drew my cash down
And just like a flash we was clean outta town
Flew there on business, gently caress me its great
Shagged Suzie the hostie, he shagged her best mate

Soon as we’re back I head down to the bank
My manager mate he starts talking frank
He reckons this market’s on a crazy old tear
It can’t really last far into next year
Investors gone mental, pumping in super
Leveraging up, a big feedback looper
Incomes and rents they can’t keep the pace
Banks way exposed big risk to the base
The old fundamentals they’re shot all to hell
He told me right then it won’t end so well
The bubble is growing, no doubt will get bigger
But oh when it pops what a grave it’ll dig ya
Buying in now, that’s a fool’s silly gambit
Paying king’s ransom for a lovely wee hamlet
The yield’s are pathetic the gains they aren’t there
Recession is coming it’s buyer beware!
There’s so many folks with a ginormous mortgage
They lose their job… well it’s financial carnage
A full recourse loan, there’s no great escape
You’ll stay a bank slave, suffer digital rape
We sequester your income, leave you on a drip
We’ve got your ticket, we’ll keep taking clips
With so many owners desperate to quit
To lowballing offers they’ll quickly submit
As prices start tumbling then heavily crashing
Owning IPs will go right out of fashion
The lines on the chart they have to converge
Back to historical levels where the medians merge
Prices to income, prices to rent
It’s all going back to be where they’re meant

I’m confused for a moment cos this can’t go wrong
I’m riding a winner that’s running real strong
Houses we all know only upwards they go
No way imagined I’d do any dough
The loans are all solid, I ain’t going down
What do they know these suit-wearing clowns?
The recipe’s perfect, geared up tax breaks
Invest into property, that’s wealth ya can’t fake
I knew that my prospects were brighter than bright
Then the oval office dropped me smack deep in the shite

Your LVR mate, it’s right out of whack
You desperately need to drag it right back
You’re way over the edge, you’re past 99
If it was 80 well then you’d be fine
No worries, I tell him, the market’s real strong
I’ll flick off one IP that won’t take me long
He looked at me funny, said I’m “over risked”
We want back our money and we want it brisk
But mate! Its all sorted, I got it sussed
And that’s when that rear end in a top hat pushed me under the bus
Your numbers don’t add up you’re selling them all
You’re leveraged to hell and set for a fall
We ain’t going down cos you can’t add up
I’m telling you straight, this ain’t no windup
Get me five million you got 30 days
Five million?! You’re joking?! There’s no fucken way!!

It’s over red rover, it’s cash flow you lack
You’ve blown out the budget, you’re swimming in crap
Negative geared, just three tenants who pay thee
(And fixing nine Renos, all currently empty)
Was 5 percent down now your equity’s shot
Pay up on the knocker or we take back the lot
We’ll sell in possession, we’ll get what we can
There’ll be nothing left over for you tradie man
Any mortgagee losses we incur on the way
Lucky for us your insurance defrays
And oh, by the way, we’ll grab back your ute
That loan’s 30k and a bit more to boot

I turned kind of pale, my Bali tan faded
I blurted out loud, “but I thought I had made it”
It was blindingly clear that it wasn’t my fault
Those fucken oval office bankers forcing needless defaults
Took all of my money, I’m bankrupt, I’m broke
Parasite wankers, preyin’ on tradie folk
Called my old boss to get my job back
But he isn’t hiring, says construction’s gone flat
So I’m living with mum, I’ve gone on the dole
Now all I can pull is some ugly fat moll

And so ends the story of a tradie who knew
gently caress all (or less) as to why he went through
Hubris and greed are not a great mix
When all one is good at is
stacking
up
bricks

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Inescapable Duck posted:

A conversation with my brother makes me wonder; how hosed is the country? Apparently all the shearers are in their 60s and no one knows how to replace them. Of course, I grew up in the country and no one had any interest in teaching me how to shear, same with my brothers. Nobody thinks of the future out there, and then they wonder why they're so hosed.

The old refused to educate the young in their business for fear of being replaced. Now upon retirement they complain the young have no skills. Or complain when the young have moved on to entirely new businesses and industries.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Also remember that when you're arguing with coal shills you can see the live output of Australias solar power production anytime you want.
http://pv-map.apvi.org.au/live

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

America's Slow Descent Into Anarchy faces small Hiccup

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Royal commission into child sexual abuse by religious institutions has handed their report to the GG.
It's loving dark and damming.

Obviously content warning, sexual abuse.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-14/royal-commission-child-sex-abuse-case-studies/9250972?pfmredir=sm&sf176250280=1

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009


Shirtgate.

or...


Tollgate.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Solemn Sloth posted:

I think you'll find that this is politicaly correct fake news sjw bullshit, coal can not fail

http://reneweconomy.com.au/intermittent-another-big-coal-unit-trips-thats-four-in-a-week-47037/

Four have fallen over in the last week. Some have been down for more. Eraring only blew up two main transformers back in 2011. And Hazelwood, good riddance to bad rubbish.
These things are old. The companies are running them into the ground rather than do the required levels of maintenance.

Lid posted:

Triple M is making the surprising move to launch its own top 100 playlist on Australia Day next year, just weeks after triple j announced it is moving the date of the Hottest 100.

An email sent to Triple M subscribers, obtained by The Music today, announced the 'Ozzest 100' list and takes a jab at the youth broadcaster.

"So, the taxpayer funded FM has decided that there’ll be no soundtrack for Australia Day. Let’s face it, that’s usually full of hipsters or kids making music on a Mac," the email reads.

"At Triple M, we’re going to give you what you’ve asked for. The perfect Australia Day soundtrack."

ge'ffucked commercial trash.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

ili posted:

Ah, fair enough. We covered pregnancy contraception etc in science and I think contraception and stis in home ec. It makes sense to cover the whole thing together in one subject, although it feels a bit sad to have to have an explicit lesson about consent and no actually meaning no.

Perhaps its time for a refresher?

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Anidav posted:

So are the official Goon State rankings
1. SA
2. VIC
3. QLD
4. TAS
5. WA
6. NSW
?

Can we have a poll for state of the year?
State Rankings
Vic
TAS
WA
SA
QLD
NSW

Territory Rankings:
Australian Antarctic Territory
ACT
NT
(debatable, both have approximately the same population. actually ACT has twice the population)
Jervis Bay

Best Micronation:
Hutt River principality

state of the year remains despair.
Special mention goes to WA for telling ONP to DIAF.
Most improved award to QLD.

Negative Entropy fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Dec 21, 2017

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

JBP posted:

A lot of people oppose safe schools style programs because they want to do their own sex and life education with their children and don't trust the government to do it.

I think this is a fair and reasonable argument.

And then you'll have compounding bad information passed from generation to generation with no input from an evolving and improving curricula.


BBJoey posted:

too bad he’s never gonna get it because nobody likes him in the party

Fixed.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

I had an intense discussion with my dad who admitted the two party system is dumb and he would certainly try to vote greens or independent but when it came down to a two party preferred he would have to go with LNP because at his first professional job he got harassed by a union rep demanding fees from him when he wasn't part of the union and Shorten is a union mouthpiece.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

VodeAndreas posted:

Don't know but this is a friendly reminder to dob in all your annoying neighbours that just got drones and don't know the rules to CASA

Deregulate the drones.

Gorilla Salad posted:

I've always held that the greatest thing the ADF could ever do to make Australia safer is to issue their soldiers with shovels, hammers and saws and teach them how to build infrastructure in our dirt poor neighbours.

Clean water, electricity, an international school of the air, directly improve the lives of everyone around us. A million different way, big and small, to do the right thing.

You know, being the good guys.


Instead we're perfectly content to let even our vassal states, like Nauru, rot and suffer :(

Reconstruction task force Afghanistan
Mentoring task force Afghanistan.

Australia and the Dutch stayed behind while the Americans tromped off to yippee shoot Saddam.

Also look up the yearly AACAP http://www.indigenous.gov.au/news-and-media/announcements/department-defence-army-aboriginal-community-assistance-programme

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Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Happy new year goons

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